You're kinda contradicting yourself saying you wanted smaller than you got, Gnomes could scratch that itch. (I agree BTW, Sequoia is the right size IMO)
There are too many Human sized characters in the game, we don't need more of those (unless they are batbreeders, and maybe a cowgirl).
I'd happily trade you Beth, Mia and Gwen for another mini stack
Can see why i can contradict myself saying i wanted smaller goblins, but also mine mind trys to factor in how long / time spend is making it a good model, just shrinking the model by 20% doesnt mean the outcome is good. personaly hope rather to have good looking dwarf model than gnome. ((dont mind trading Mia away for it, she is my least favorite + dragon due dont like her model))
Pathfinder desribes gnomes are stealthy triksters and pranksters, when living among other races they become shopkkepers leaving combat to sturdier races like dwarves. Gnomes are also described ashaving numerous intimate relationships during their lives and monogamy is exceedingly rare... that means a female gnome would be pulling pranks on people and she'd be as horny as the peasant.
No Bud, IF EVERY high-fantasy setting went this way we wouldn't be having this discussion full stop. We clearly have different sources for our imagination. (definitive proof that this comment is false)
has Gnomes often feels the need to make Gnomes stand out because Dwarves, Gnomes & Halflings (when all together) are essentially short humans. Gnomes often step on the toes of Dwarves (who are industrial to varying degress) so they are shown to be inventive in a tech/magi-tech fashion. Halflings are down to earth so Gnomes are made wackier & they usually have life or death need to keep having fun. As a species they just exist in most settings BECAUSE D&D did it. I'm not saying they cant I'm just saying when done poorly they often feel like a joke character.
I disagree, but I'm not going to debate it because the details change drastically from source to source. bottom line for me is
I see
Dwarfs as tending to be Dour, stubborn, Anti-Magic,
While
Gnomes tend to be Hyperactive, Mercurial and highly focused in the Arcane.
In other words very different creatures.
I guess they are the missing linking seen that way but only if that setting is using the whole "Gnomes are wacky inventors" & "Goblins are dangerous wacky inventors". The Goblins of this setting are not that arch-type so it would have to be seen how they connect in this game.
I couldn't disagree more, occasionally you get a goblin character who is a wacky inventor but that is not representative of the race, comparing Gnomes and Goblins is like comparing
a group of Drunk Football fans who are rioting because their team lost
to a
Think-tank of scientists working on some world changing project.
It's just pointing out that Swamp Elves still feel like Elves. And shes not as short as the other short characters in this game. I mean if u wanted to u could say Swamp Elves are the Elven version of Halflings. But if we are doing that the in a way;
Halflings= short Humans
Goblins= short Orcs
Giants= big Dwarves
Gnomes= short Elves (both magical, whimsical & long lived)
You've not only have the wrong end of the stick, but you got the wrong stick.
I never claimed Swamp elves weren't Elves, not sure why you are arguing like I did. And NO I don't think Swamp Elves are the elven equivalent of Halflings.
Halfings represent the "REAL" people reading those stories filled with "LARGER THAN LIFE" characters (while snacking on their elevensies), that's why halflings are "half" the size of story humans, because the readers can never measure up the the characters in those stories... the "height" of halflings is just a means to represent that.
Other Short characters are still "Bigger than life" with their special abilities/qualities.
I'm not necessarily calling the girls fodder but the males are. Males are killed en mass by the player to make money on their ears & their children are born to fight & die for the MC's wealth & power. They are often depicted as low level fodder in most fantasy settings where they are not a core race. And FUCK you're racism lol
You monster You...[Tucks ear necklace inside shirt]
You keep arguing like this is "High Fantasy" where Goblins are the generic enemy, it isn't, this is Tinkerers universe, where Goblins are our Friends/Family & Cum Buckets. Failing to account for the world you live in and continuing to use outdated definitions marks you as a racist against goblins.
Demons are on a whole different level & I will kit compare them to the mortal races. End of lol.
Irrelevant, the argument was about having too many short characters, not their origin.
There are too many human sized characters IMO
What worthwhile difference is there between Mia, Beth and Gwen?
If Tinkerer reveals she is half something else fine but that would mean that MC's dad cheating with (I still sat Qetesh) & the wife cheated with something else lol. But I beleive she is a human. She looks very young in my opinion mabey 17-18(?). But that would have to be revealed by Tinkerer.
Maybe I misread something but wasn't it clearly stated that she was the MC's Half sister, that they did not have the same mother.
The other stuff about her was, what is known in the trade as "being cute" "Tongue in cheek" , "Not being serious"
TL'DR; I am a very anal person who is gonna die on this hill
Can see why i can contradict myself saying i wanted smaller goblins, but also mine mind trys to factor in how long / time spend is making it a good model, just shrinking the model by 20% doesnt mean the outcome is good. personaly hope rather to have good looking dwarf model than gnome. ((dont mind trading Mia away for it, she is my least favorite + dragon due dont like her model))
You keep arguing like this is "High Fantasy" where Goblins are the generic enemy, it isn't, this is Tinkerers universe, where Goblins are our Friends/Family & Cum Buckets. Failing to account for the world you live in and continuing to use outdated definitions marks you as a racist against goblins.
No Bud, IF EVERY high-fantasy setting went this way we wouldn't be having this discussion full stop. We clearly have different sources for our imagination. (definitive proof that this comment is false)
My first interaction was hunting them for sport.
I'm curious where you plan on taking this?
Ahhahh!!!
My nation once fought a war with your nation therefore you will eternally be the enemy!!!
You've not only have the wrong end of the stick, but you got the wrong stick.
I never claimed Swamp elves weren't Elves, not sure why you are arguing like I did. And NO I don't think Swamp Elves are the elven equivalent of Halflings.
Halfings represent the "REAL" people reading those stories filled with "LARGER THAN LIFE" characters (while snacking on their elevensies), that's why halflings are "half" the size of story humans, because the readers can never measure up the the characters in those stories... the "height" of halflings is just a means to represent that.
Other Short characters are still "Bigger than life" with their special abilities/qualities.
In their original source yes Halflings represent the reader but in most literature after that HUMANS just represent humans & the Halflings have all their quirks exaggerated (sneaky, "thieving", relaxed, big appetite). Also u asked why Swamp Elf culture mattered so I answered my thought process. Not arguing a point like u went against it. Merely answering a question u said to me.
You monster You...[Tucks ear necklace inside shirt]
You keep arguing like this is "High Fantasy" where Goblins are the generic enemy, it isn't, this is Tinkerers universe, where Goblins are our Friends/Family & Cum Buckets. Failing to account for the world you live in and continuing to use outdated definitions marks you as a racist against goblins.
Irrelevant, the argument was about having too many short characters, not their origin.
There are too many human sized characters IMO
What worthwhile difference is there between Mia, Beth and Gwen?
Maybe I misread something but wasn't it clearly stated that she was the MC's Half sister, that they did not have the same mother.
The other stuff about her was, what is known in the trade as "being cute" "Tongue in cheek" , "Not being serious"
I'm sure you will, shame you misread the map and are currently fighting on a completely different hill... Who is it you're fighting BTW Is it Dwarfs??
I don't see why we can't have both Gnomes and Dwarfs. (and Halflings, Imps, Goblins, Midget Elves, Pixies, Fairies,...)
The MC's story is one of a pornograthic tale for a horny boy hoping to fuck all the hot babes & monsters of the land but the world that surrounds the story is essentially a High-Fantasy setting. EVERYONE else treats Goblins like pests & monsters to be killed. Even MC can kill em for cash even if their his kids. So yes i am saying that Goblins are enemy fodder in the world-view BUT i agree that in the context of the game the GIRL Goblins are our friends, family & cum-buckets .
I just said I think they are kinda goofy when not differentiated from Dwarves & Halflings in a well written way. I'm not saying it CANT happen. Just that's how I feel sometimes. Unlike Elves, Dwarves & Halflings most writers cant crib off the work of Tolkien when designing Gnomes .
If I misread you're words I apologise I thought u were implying she was short so possibly could turn out they dont have the same dad (which would mean MC actually has zero blood relation to Julia). If I was wrong then I'll back off lol
My first interaction was hunting them for sport.
I'm curious where you plan on taking this?
Ahhahh!!!
My nation once fought a war with your nation therefore you will eternally be the enemy!!!
Well it makes sense. MC has the same reaction to Goblins as everyone else in the world (& they to him) at the start. Once he becomes king he can continue to grow power with his new sexy Goblin brides BUT he dosent care for his children. Hes just a horny fucker who wants to keep his green pussies on tap lol
Well it makes sense. MC has the same reaction to Goblins as everyone else in the world (& they to him) at the start. Once he becomes king he can continue to grow power with his new sexy Goblin brides BUT he dosent care for his children. Hes just a horny fucker who wants to keep his green pussies on tap lol
Yeah, I said that already, he's a Sociopath The goblins are the victims in this story. Constantly Persecuted, Hunted, Murdered. Not sure why you struggle with this.
That's what intrigues me, Tinkerer did such a good job with the Batbreeder, I'd love to see what he'd do with a Gnome. The best characters IMO are the ones the surprise you.
(unless they are batbreeders, and maybe a cowgirl).
