RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.91] [Tinkerer]

[DomWolf]

No

American elves...
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stop ruining my headcanon with this shit.

I said MY head. As in how I hear it. The Kingdom is basically fantasy Europe & the Elves come from the west so in MY cannon they have American accents. You are free to have you're own head cannon.

Put ya bloody guns away lol

 

[storm1105]

I said MY head. As in how I hear it. The Kingdom is basically fantasy Europe & the Elves come from the west so in MY cannon they have American accents. You are free to have you're own head cannon.

Elves in lotr also come from the west. I don't really see why geography should have any correlation on their accents.

 

[DomWolf]

Elves in lotr also come from the west. I don't really see why geography should have any correlation on their accents.

Because it's just how I imagine they speak. I don't see the problem. My point was that everyone has different ways to hear the LIs, to support the fact it might kill immersion for some players to have voices in the game.

Also if the main land is Eurasia & the Dark Continent is Africa then the western lands (in my headcannon) would be America. Also it makes them sound very different compared to the European, Asian & Afrucan sounding peoples to the east. Liandra & Luthien gives me a valley girl/suburban vibes. Dunno why.

I'm not saying my list is the definitive on how they sound. Y'all have you're own ideas.

 

[storm1105]

Because it's just how I imagine they speak. I don't see the problem. My point was that everyone has different ways to hear the LIs, to support the fact it might kill immersion for some players to have voices in the game.

Also if the main land is Eurasia & the Dark Continent is Africa then the western lands (in my headcannon) would be America. Also it makes them sound very different compared to the European, Asian & Afrucan sounding peoples to the east. Liandra & Luthien gives me a valley girl/suburban vibes. Dunno why.

I'm not saying my list is the definitive on how they sound. Y'all have you're own ideas.

For me the only thing that would kill immersion is hearing elves with american accents. And the setting is too mideval for the west being americans to make sense

 

[DomWolf]

Also to add ro my above statement.

Dragon Age has American Dwarves so what's the problem lol

 

[storm1105]

Also to add ro my above statement.

Dragon Age has American Dwarves so what's the problem lol

I don't mind that and I don't mind humans with american accents. I just don't think elves should have american accents

 

[DomWolf]

For me the only thing that would kill immersion is hearing elves with american accents. And the setting is too mideval for the west being americans to make sense

It's based on what I know of the setting from in game lore & things Tinkerer mentioned. I created my headcannon around that.

The world is 1 Pangea-like super continent split into 2 landmass. The unnamed norther continent & the southern Dark Continent. Essentially it's Afro-Eurasia. To the west there is a cluster of islands called the Elven Realm where Elves originate from. They once had a vast empire that was spread all the way to the main land but they have receded back home & have mostly isolated themselves except for trade. This could be considered similar to the British Empire.

High & Dark Elves split over disagreements over how to use magic (I kinda picture it like the Amrican Civil War but more a question on wether magic should be restricted or used for personal gain). And the fact they live on a geothermic island which allows for great wine & they make vineyards makes me think both of Greenland & Southern France/Spain.

The Swamp Elves are an isolated race who refused to return & eventually devolved into a shorter race. Their Swamp dwalling nature & the fact Caleah's clan is called "Wendigo" is why I went with Cajun, they feel like they could be Louisianans or Floridians.

This mix of cultural influences, free spirited sexuality, Imperial background & the fact there from the west is why I have the headcannon of American Elves. It's just how it played out in my head. But again you guys can follow ya own headcannon lol.

 

[DomWolf]

 

[storm1105]

It's based on what I know of the setting from in game lore & things Tinkerer mentioned. I created my headcannon around that.

The world is 1 Pangea-like super continent split into 2 landmass. The unnamed norther continent & the southern Dark Continent. Essentially it's Afro-Eurasia. To the west there is a cluster of islands called the Elven Realm where Elves originate from. They once had a vast empire that was spread all the way to the main land but they have receded back home & have mostly isolated themselves except for trade. This could be considered similar to the British Empire.

High & Dark Elves split over disagreements over how to use magic (I kinda picture it like the Amrican Civil War but more a question on wether magic should be restricted or used for personal gain). And the fact they live on a geothermic island which allows for great wine & they make vineyards makes me think both of Greenland & Southern France/Spain.

The Swamp Elves are an isolated race who refused to return & eventually devolved into a shorter race. Their Swamp dwalling nature & the fact Caleah's clan is called "Wendigo" is why I went with Cajun, they feel like they could be Louisianans or Floridians.

This mix of cultural influences, free spirited sexuality, Imperial background & the fact there from the west is why I have the headcannon of American Elves. It's just how it played out in my head. But again you guys can follow ya own headcannon lol.

That's not what I meant. I meant it's too mideval for a nation with modern american accents to make sense at all and have it still be mideval. Even if you can say the geography was inspired by a place the culture and history is so obviously different that it doesn't make sense to use geography as a reasoning. Also please don't compare something about agreements for magic over the civil war which about the right to own people.


And if the elves are from a bunch of western islands wouldn't that make them British? If you just want the elves to have american accents whatever, but to me the idea just takes me out of it. And the concept of western islands the elves came from feels more like something in in Elysium or Tír na nÓg than the americans. Just some mythical land west because europeans didn't know what was west of them

 

[Gamer9999]

I just lost a bunch of progress to a bug. If you try to learn the special move from the goblin at the camp and he kills you but your dog finishes him off, the game will register your character as dead and immediately game over the next time you get into combat. Sleeping or using healing items like bandages do not work so you are forced into a loop. I tried to sleep to regain health which saved over my autosave with a character that cant be healed.

 

[DomWolf]

That's not what I meant. I meant it's too mideval for a nation with modern american accents to make sense at all and have it still be mideval. Even if you can say the geography was inspired by a place the culture and history is so obviously different that it doesn't make sense to use geography as a reasoning. Also please don't compare something about agreements for magic over the civil war which about the right to own people.


And if the elves are from a bunch of western islands wouldn't that make them British? If you just want the elves to have american accents whatever, but to me the idea just takes me out of it. And the concept of western islands the elves came from feels more like something in in Elysium or Tír na nÓg than the americans. Just some mythical land west because europeans didn't know what was west of them

It's a fantasy world. I'm using the accent, not the actual culture. There are people on hear who have said they give all the HUMAN characters American accents so I don't see the difference or the problem. I just see it the otherway around. One person on here once said they hear Jenny as a southern belle type character.




Ps. The American Civil War wasn't the main part of that comparison but more the cultural divide it caused. North & south IRL argued over the ethics of owning people. The Elves split other wether using dark magic for personal & darwinistic means was ethical or if its use should be restricted. My point was more about the idealogical divide more than the reason. If this offended you I apologise for that.

 

[DomWolf]

I just lost a bunch of progress to a bug. If you try to learn the special move from the goblin at the camp and he kills you but your dog finishes him off, the game will register your character as dead and immediately game over the next time you get into combat. Sleeping or using healing items like bandages do not work so you are forced into a loop. I tried to sleep to regain health which saved over my autosave with a character that cant be healed.

M3ntir this sounds like a biggy Tinkerer should be made aware of.

 

[storm1105]

. There are people on hear who have said they give all the HUMAN characters American accents so I don't see the difference or the problem.

The difference is that it's consistent that everyone has the same accent. Deciding to give a culture that's literally nthing like the americans american accents, but giving no one else in the setting american accents and only doing so because there further west feels weird to me. Giving accents based on geography itself just seems weird to me and I'd rather do it based on culture. If you decide to give one cultural group an american accent to set them apart that's fine it just should be because it's west and I simply dislike it being elves instead of humans or halfings. I'm not saying you shouldn't do something just that I personally dislike it. Elves are literally the last race I'd give an american accent in any fantasy setting. The only way elves would ever have American accents is if everyone had American accents.

Ps. The American Civil War wasn't the main part of that comparison but more the cultural divide it caused. North & south IRL argued over the ethics of owning people.

Yeah that's not true. The cultural divide was already present before the civil war and was one of the main things that lead to the war in the first place. The north was more urbanized and relied more on textiles and factories. The south was a lot of large plantations where the wealthy tried to emulate European nobility and relied a lot on the cotton trade. They were different culturally before the war.

 

[M3ntir]

I just lost a bunch of progress to a bug. If you try to learn the special move from the goblin at the camp and he kills you but your dog finishes him off, the game will register your character as dead and immediately game over the next time you get into combat. Sleeping or using healing items like bandages do not work so you are forced into a loop. I tried to sleep to regain health which saved over my autosave with a character that cant be healed.

back up the save, go to saveeditoronline.
upload the save and 1 hp to the hp pool
download the document and use it
than you are alive agian with 1 HP.

Worst case you zip the save and send it here, and i will do it

 

[DomWolf]

The difference is that it's consistent that everyone has the same accent. Deciding to give a culture that's literally nthing like the americans american accents, but giving no one else in the setting american accents and only doing so because there further west feels weird to me. Giving accents based on geography itself just seems weird to me and I'd rather do it based on culture. If you decide to give one cultural group an american accent to set them apart that's fine it just should be because it's west and I simply dislike it being elves instead of humans or halfings. I'm not saying you shouldn't do something just that I personally dislike it. Elves are literally the last race I'd give an american accent in any fantasy setting. The only way elves would ever have American accents is if everyone had American accents.



Yeah that's not true. The cultural divide was already present before the civil war and was one of the main things that lead to the war in the first place. The north was more urbanized and relied more on textiles and factories. The south was a lot of large plantations where the wealthy tried to emulate European nobility and relied a lot on the cotton trade. They were different culturally before the war.

Them being west was ONE of like 4 or 5 reasons I gave for why I hear them as American in my head. There are other reasons. And at this point I'm not explaining further why I have this as MY HEADCANNON. Was just a tiny part of an example list to support another posters point. If that's weird to you that's fine your not in my head & I'm not in charge of voice casting for this game. I'm moving on now.

 

[storm1105]

Them being west was ONE of like 4 or 5 reasons I gave for why I hear them as American in my head. There are other reasons. And at this point I'm not explaining further why I have this as MY HEADCANNON. Was just a tiny part of an example list to support another posters point. If that's weird to you that's fine your not in my head & I'm not in charge of voice casting for this game. I'm moving on now.

I didn't realize because the other stuff you said seemed kind of counter to what you said I mean you directly compared them to the British empire and Greenland and France, even though none of those places have American accents. I could see Cajun I guess if you focus on the fact that it's swamplands but then you said their clan name is wendigo, which is like the Northeastern native american folklore which makes me think of them being more like Algonquians. Then the civil war thing seems like a history misunderstanding.



Like I said I though I was never saying you couldn't do something just that I dislike it and they'd be the last race I'd give american accents and wouldn't really consider it unless the whole setting has those accents.

 

[DomWolf]

I didn't realize because the other stuff you said seemed kind of counter to what you said I mean you directly compared them to the British empire and Greenland and France, even though none of those places have American accents. I could see Cajun I guess if you focus on the fact that it's swamplands but then you said their clan name is wendigo, which is like the Northeastern native american folklore which makes me think of them being more like Algonquians. Then the civil war thing seems like a history misunderstanding.



Like I said I though I was never saying you couldn't do something just that I dislike it and they'd be the last race I'd give american accents and wouldn't really consider it unless the whole setting has those accents.

I mentioned because they have a similiar mix like how modern America is a mix of cultures that moved to the new world. That kind of cultural mix also caused me to imagine them having American accents. It's a fantasy setting so if you can imagine everyone in the European-styled region sounding American & the Elves as British I don't see why it can't be the otherway around. Also kinda makes Elves sound oddly exotic if they sound like a more modern culture compared ro everyone else who sounds like "old world" cultures.

The Wendigo is Native American yes but made me again associate them with Americans, but there Swampy habitat made me think more Louisiana (also I was kinda inspired by the Hewarzi Marshalnds of Diablo which was specifically inspired by it).

The civil war thing was more just about the cultural split. Let's ignore EVERYTHING about IRL civil war, heck I don't even know if the Elves had a civil war. It was more about the idealogical split between the race as "Dark" & "High" Elves were considered the same people before the split. The Datk Elves (according to Tinkerer) were marked by there abuse of dark magic. I was more focused on the magic than anything else.


It was just how I hear it when I read the lines. My headcannon, & I think we can all agree, that we can have our own headcannon. Unless Tinkerer himself tells us what accent is where we can just imagine what we want.

 

[storm1105]

Also kinda makes Elves sound oddly exotic if they sound like a more modern culture compared ro everyone else who sounds like "old world" cultures.

Yeah but elves are usually older than humans. Probably why the other way around is more common, since Humans tend to be upstarts. Not like any accent really would matter with that point though since old medieval English sounds completely different from any modern day accent and none of them really existed until around 200 years ago. I don't have a problem with American accents being in fantasy, just with elves being the only group to have them. Especially if humans are British, it just feels backwards. Elves are way to haughty

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Guys really, the lord of the dragons from Germany once said if the natives from Murica would have been left alone they would be elves now. Case solved, move on.

 

[DomWolf]

Yeah but elves are usually older than humans. Probably why the other way around is more common, since Humans tend to be upstarts. Not like any accent really would matter with that point though since old medieval English sounds completely different from any modern day accent and none of them really existed until around 200 years ago. I don't have a problem with American accents being in fantasy, just with elves being the only group to have them. Especially if humans are British, it just feels backwards. Elves are way to haughty

Well for me Humans are "generically" Afro-Eurasian with the Humans of Weirdwood being a mixture of English/Irish/Germanic accents. While those of Greyport are Germanic/London. Outside of this region I imagine they have accents from all of Africa & Euraisa depending.

Dwarves I imagine having Scottish accents. Halfling Welsh, Orcs/Goblins/Ogres Cockney & as mentioned Elves, American.