Is the game really linear? It makes sense to add that if so but if the sandbox is being utilised correctly the game will have multiple story threads to pursue including side quests to take advantage of the non-linear nature of a sandbox and to allow players to go after whichever girls they like. If he does use the sandbox correctly making a linear VN mode will be more trouble than it's worth as he'd have to find a way to structure a non-linear story in a linear way.
Great update thanks for your hard work .
I was afraid of that. you also might need to compress your images otherwise next update will be 1.2 GB. and when it comes to the sandbox it all comes down to the UI. the side menu that allows you to enter rooms in the hallway. you can add a icon with each girl to show who is in which room and remove the option to go into rooms when no one is in said room. unless it is quest related an icon to show who is where in the house would be great. a star icon to show a quest can be completed in this room. an idea just came to me when multiple girls are in a room or a love event. that can be seen in a room like in your bedroom with the succubus at night show a hart icon. speaking about the mc bedroom an option to sleep or skip a day should not need to require for you to talk to the succubus. simply enter your room select sleep, skip day, return or talk to the succubus. everything else I think you have done a great job keep up the good work.
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... That isn't how that would work... one with that kind of lifestyle would never stop XD
Maybe is more Mom isn't related to any of the other children, and is same father instead? This would make more logical sense if the dev is having the mom not be a hoe, otherwise any concept of her only doing MC is hilariously stupid.
Cause if she has that many kids with that many dudes... then...
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1 this is in regards to the real incest option of making them actually related.
2 elves live an absurd amount of time, no info was given regarding fertility rates of the incest, family break ups do happen, wars do happen, illness does happen. you can't just assume natural logarithmic growth within a species without considering biological and environmental factors.
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"the mom didn't have a relative to bang, so banged a ton of other races. but then the MC was finally born and she could kick the other losers aside so she can raise her future baby maker."
is based on inference from what the succubus girl narrates to you. at no point did i try to explain why the mom didnt have a fellow realitive to bang it out with, this is just obviously the case from just looking at the situation.
the fact none of the other men that made your half-species sisters are around kind of implies they died of old age or got let go considering the MC is like 200? (got that from a different post)
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side quests suck ass, if its important info you can cram it into a linear story exactly like you cramed it randomly inside your sandbox, if you don't like a Li reject them, also works with linear stories.
Sand box is just mindless busywork wo distract the masses from the vast emptiness of the story. Freedom of Sandbox is the biggest lie there is because they all end at one point with "focus on the other girls to progress with this character" so you get the illusion of choices that aren't really choices.
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No to mention, it disrupts the immersion, because suddenly you have to chase quests, hints, or doing mindless clicking that takes you away from the story itself
And yes, its just a way to reuse renders, and extend "gameplay" without actually creating new content
I have been saying this for years, but well, it is what it is
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Still doesn't change the mentality that many sexual partners would bring... regardless of the time between... also 200 with that many partners? 3 maybe.. but that many?
Also why would she intentionally put herself through that pain when she could just go for someone from a long lived race as well....
Streets still be calling either way.
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I always welcome the illusion of choice. Its hugely important to my enjoyment in any game, but even more so in a sex game.
Lets say that there are five chapters to an act within the game. If the game is a pure, narrative VN, then they just go 1-2-3-4-5, with no control from the player. For me, even if they're really well done, it gets tedious. But if you let me pick the order than I do the events, then it becomes FAR more engaging for me, and I enjoy it a whole lot. That, more than anything, is why I strongly prefer a sandbox or semi-sandbox setup for games.
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I agree with this but I wouldn't say it's the illusion of choice. Choosing the order of which characters and events to pursue before having to do your least prefered ones is great because the player gets to pick whoever they find most appealing first. VN fans seem to not value this for some reason but I guess it's because they assume ALL sandboxes have arbitrary stat grinds when those shitty grinds aren't required for sandboxes to work. I hate the grind as much as the next guy but it's a problem that can be remedied by either having zero stat requirements for events or by giving everyone the option to cheat consequence free so they don't have to hold down ctrl while farming affection or money. The dev also needs to have a working event guide too so that players don't get stuck. If a sandbox has these things I don't see any reason why the average sandbox hater would complain. If they hate sandboxes even when it's done correctly they can simply filter the tag out and let sandbox enjoyers enjoy the sandbox.
I guess the dev wanted you to have incest with all kinds of races and the implication is that she kept going until she had a boy or something but I do get where you're coming from because it's not exactly a great thing to think about lmao
Yes but guys don't tend to be happy having a partner with an extensive history even if she stayed with those dudes until they died it softens the blow a little but it doesn't negate it. She replaced them in the end and if you were from a race with shorter lifespan you'd be replaced too. It's not the greatest feeling. Reminds me of marriage "til death do us part" but what if you die first? Well in her case she moves to the next guy which sort of destroys any hope of romance for a lot of guys.
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I don't hate Sandbox games indiscriminately, I can stomach some of them just fine, but at the end of the day even the best of them do just add multiple clicks (which can be as less then 3 or go up till 10 or more easily) between every scene.
you are randomly clicking around doing nothing productive. Seeing the Academy and surrounding in "Wartribe Academy" was entertaining the first one or two times after that its just dragging. So glad that they implemented a fast travel option, you click on the picture of the girl, bamm, next scene, all from one screen.
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all I am readying here is that you enjoy a mass of unrelated storybits you can throw around like you want more then a coherent story.
You can't start scenario 4 if it referenced scenario 2 but scenario 2 didn't take place yet because you did only scenario 5 at that moment. So in the end 4 still needs to come after 2 because the story would become a jumbled mess otherwise.
Or all those tidbits exist Independent of each other what means you really don't have a story
If you want random scenes without a coherent story just use a Gallery unlocker and fap away, or go watch porn.
Oh yeah I agree fast travel is nice. You also mentioned something else which I like about sandboxes is that it lets you explore areas whereas some bad sandboxes have you seemingly teleport everywhere and everything feels disjointed.
One of the worst offenders when it comes to sandboxes imo is Lessons in Love. Not only is there no official guide, when there are often incredibly specific steps to progress, it's plagued by shitty stat grinds and it's influence has infected many sandbox games and that's not just including the games that are like it either. If more sandboxes did it right sandboxes would be so shunned in the first place. I still maintain that sandboxes are good for the reasons I outlined earlier it's just often poorly done.
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yeah I let LiL lay for half? a year because I couldn't be arsed to decipher how to progress from act 1 to act 2 and even as I picked it up again I didn't get it without consulting a wiki, which I needed to find with google first.
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I really liked what I saw in game and what dev said about his plans. Then sandbox started.
And you know how sandbox can be good? This doesn't look like the case at all.
And you know how sandbox can be good? This doesn't look like the case at all.