Thisisfunny

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Ok, i'm going to be honest:

I donwloaded the game to see what was new, and then started to read the most recent comments. Once i heard how some things had been cut, i was about to just delete the game and move on... but then i read *what* was changed and *how* it was changed and... quite honestly, i kinda like it. Having the protagonista be someone that's into all those things is something i had wanted for quite some time, and something quite unique in a sea of forced gender TFs. If possible, i would love for those changes to remain as a possible game mode even when or if the game can ditch patreon.
I do not not mind voluntary or involuntary, but as some of us pointed out that now it make no sense (some never made any)

1. Why have a "Babysitter when the MC is 18+? Dumb. As I pointed out this is the reason I went with "Mother" route. which you can no longer do in current version.
2. Why are we paying the teacher now when it is our choice or desire to change? By taking out the involuntary (forced) part of it, which lead the character over timing waiting it, they made the whole "Paying the teacher" pointless.
3. Hypnosis is pointless. If the MC craves it then hypnosis plays no part in it.

What made this game so fun was that the MC went from a straight guy to a sissy by slowly being manipulated by those around him to transition from straight to sissy. However because of Patreon, this game is such a SJW/PC hot mess that it is a fraction of what it once was. What also made it bad was the creator(s) kept creating new path and all of them feel incomplete.

With the current creator(s) now deciding to "leave" Patreon, I would not be surprised if it takes them another 6 years to get back to were the game once was.
 

HelveticStar

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Did you install the hotfix? Scroll up a bit on this page.
Sorry for the late reply but I did. Now my game is stuck on the detention loop and I still can't marry my guardian, I'm also not getting a date prompt on the weekends. I also used that detention code on the console but it changed nothing.
 

x666

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Honestly, I though the new creators took this game too far into were the mc was willing to go along with almost everything. From a forced, humiliated and punished boy it just became a gay/transgender fluffy fantasy. The cheerleader thing also felt out of place and really lovey dovey compared to how it was originally.

If they completely removed the forced aspect and hypno, is there really any point to building on the base that was Perverted Education? It seems like it goes further and further away from what was originally there, perhaps it's time to scrap this title and start something new if the direction they want to take is so different from the original game. I'm not really hating on the new developer, it has to be hard taking over something someone else started and that has been around for so long. But they're clearly talented, so they could absolutely start with something that has no legacy to work around.
 

gregers

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Not as of the latest release, incest and noncon content was removed due to patreon rules
Ah right, I haven't looked at this for a while, since several versions before the bowdlerization. I'd assumed they just removed the mother entirely and made the 'Babysitter' version canonical.
 

majo4584

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Sep 2, 2018
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How do you get the hard spanking scene? I have bdsm, and its sub options on but I still only ever get the one light spanking and can't ask for it when mastubating.
 

DemiArc

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How is the MC supposed to "find a partner" in the Poise Training Phase 2? I didn't notice any option to "go on a date".
 

Caldo

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Well thats why I keep the old versions till the games are finished. The "Save, Sane and Consentual" will never waste space on my PC.

Before you made this big changes you shoulde have made at least a vote to keep the "Real game" and move to subscribestar or change it to a swj game and stay on patreon.

I dont like the consent thing, I like the forced or tricked/brainwashed way. Thats why this and Desendo where 2 of my favorite sissy HTML games.

Changing some minor things for patreon is ok but you cant rewrite the heart of the game as mentioned above... well you can but for me the game died after version .9900
 

Aseratrix

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How can they censor non-consent, then most of the "domination" itself becomes tame. This should mean that the majority of femdom, maledom, content will be scrapped or domesticated into vanilla monotony? That's really bad! Also whats up with Patreon? Are they not simply a patronage service? Since when is their duty to mental-hygienize everything? Also, whats wrong with people nowadays? How did we lost grasping the distinction between fantasy and reality or why are those in power assume that we can't make that distinction? I am politically as far to the left as reasonably possible, but I don't recognize this growing mental social control as being in the spirit of original libertarian-left at all! Its a nightmare! This walking on-eggshells, everybody is offended by everything culture emerging its an authoritarian, paternalistic dystopia in the making.
 

CuriousG08

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Everyone has their own tastes, so it's impossible to please everyone, but personally I like having a willing route. I enjoy having the female help the MC into the world of feminization (the forced route is fun too). I like the femdom part of these games too, but only to a point. It always goes way too long and gets boring and becomes a complete let down. Why wouldn't the sissy want to be with a man and get some dick that he should be fully into by the end game!? It seems like all of those stories end with the sissy being in a perverted, but straight-sex relationship with a femdom girlfriend. That's way too boring! Well, for me it is. I haven't played this game in a while because after reading the changelog for each version, I didn't see anything worth bothering with. Even if the male is feminized, I am not interested in same-sex endings. My fetish is transformation, feminization, masculine male tops the maletosissy-or-maletoshemale. The sissy is always the subandbottom in my fantasy. I don't like the abuse and would rather the MC be treated like a princess. A princess slut! LOL! I loved the hypno, but that was taken out, too? That sucks. Well, hopefully the developers can find a new home for their game and not be forced to change the story to meet Patreon guidelines. Personally, I hope the developers finish up what they want to do with the many femdom routes of the story, but I don't want to read straight-sex endings. I'll be keeping an eye on the game and hope that some day, someone with the same tastes as I described, joins the team and writes something satisfying along those lines. Best of luck devs!
 
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Geralt_of_Trivia

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Everyone has there own tastes, so it's impossible to please everyone, but personally, I like having a willing route. I enjoy having the female help the MC into the world of feminization (the forced route is fun too). I like the femdom part of these games too, but only to a point. It always goes way too long and gets boring and becomes a complete let down. Why wouldn't the sissy want to be with a man and get some dick that he should be fully into by the end game!? It seems like all of those stories end with the sissy being in a perverted, but straight-sex relationship with a femdom girlfriend. That's way too boring! Well, for me it is. I haven't played this game in a while because after reading the changelog for each version, I didn't see anything worth bothering with. Even if the male is feminized, I am not interested in same-sex endings. My fetish is transformation, feminization, masculine male tops the maletosissy-or-maletoshemale. The sissy is always the subandbottom in my fantasy. I don't like the abuse and would rather the MC be treated like a princess. A princess slut! LOL! I loved the hypno, but that was taken out, too? That sucks. Well, hopefully the developers can find a new home for their game and not be forced to change the story to meet Patreon guidelines. Personally, I hope the developers finish up what they want to do with the many femdom routes of the story, but I don't want to read same-sex endings. I'll be keeping an eye on the game and hope that some day, someone with the same tastes as I described, joins the team and writes something satisfying along those lines. Best of luck devs!
what you described sounds like the current ending, trophy wife
 

compliant

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Puritanism, also, probably, look to payment processing, such as PayPal, Visa, Mastercard etc. (It started with piracy, then quickly moved to many other aspects which they would withdraw the ability to process payments and or even freeze exisiting funds for websites.) (Often you would hear preposterous arguments, such as "this encourages sex trafficking" etc. (Frequently this is due to individuals going after the payment processors themselves and threatening them with negative press which could damage their business.) (Who wants to be associated with "encouraging sex trafficking" "think of the children" or shit they just plane make up. You can turn your eyes to the OGs of this, lawyers working for the porn industry, ironically. (They'd do and say anything to try and get you de-listed.)

I imagine they have to be seen taking steps on it to be able to continue to use these payment processors, they want to avoid more negative press coverage.

These are all guesses, it's certainly possible that they've lost the plot and none of these things are applicable besides puritanism at Patreons heart. This is just a re-introduction of the mindset that existed decades ago, maybe with a twist, but... this isn't that different from the types that get fashion magazines covered in a blackout sleeve at walmart or totally removed. Except now we're talking about fictional stuff.

It's hard to say if enough people abandon one service if these types won't then start attacking that other service. One that comes to mind is the attacks which were against Valve on the steam platform. You can find examples of these people and their arguments and the type of shpeel they feed to payment processors online quite easily.
 
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f96zonetrooper

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Are the version and changelog in op ok?

The version goes from 0.9900 down to 0.1000. On tfgames.site the newest version is 1.0002.

The changelog jumps from 0.9900 to 0.1000 (or 1.0000 on tfgames.site).
There were changes for patreon as described in post #1,838 by ~X~ for PE v.9950 - Safe, Sane, and Consentual Edition. I started a new game with current version and these changes seem to be implemented, e.g. the incest option is gone and teacher event has been rewritten. Saying "No" to teacher never was a real option but now leads to a game over.

For completeness the changes for PE v.9950 - Safe, Sane, and Consentual Edition should be listed in the changelog, too.

Edit :
Since version 0.9900 was the last version before the patreon changes, there maybe should be a legacy section in OP with download link for this version, too.
 
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Well thats why I keep the old versions till the games are finished. The "Save, Sane and Consentual" will never waste space on my PC.

Before you made this big changes you shoulde have made at least a vote to keep the "Real game" and move to subscribestar or change it to a swj game and stay on patreon.

I dont like the consent thing, I like the forced or tricked/brainwashed way. Thats why this and Desendo where 2 of my favorite sissy HTML games.

Changing some minor things for patreon is ok but you cant rewrite the heart of the game as mentioned above... well you can but for me the game died after version .9900
The funny thing is that the dev's have a Subscribestar account already. If patreon was threatening to kick them off the site for the content of their game, they could've doubled down on their Subscribestar page and urged their current patreons to move their donations over to that site and then work on the game there, but they chose the devastating route of bending the knee towards patreon, removing any content pertaining to nonconsensual actions, incest, etc., just to stay on the platform, which would be a huge fuck you to their subscribers on Subscribestar since they're paying because they know that the site is much more lax about NSFW content than Patreon since that's why the site exists
 
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f96zonetrooper

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Regarding the new changes for patreon, you maybe should consider to branch the project :

- 1. PE Legacy version :
Make a shortened PE Legacy version which concentrates only on the original story ("immature male ... is slowly corrupted on three sides by his Teacher, Therapist and Guardian") where the pc starts straight possesed by strong sexual fantasies about females around him (mostly Teacher and Guardian) and is turned into the object of his own former sexual fantasies, a sexy female looking toy (which can be used by the females to pacify sexual aggresive males.) This story is a one way street where the player can only go in one direction ... down ... do a step and fall down, make another step and fall even deeper. It lives to a large part from the many unexpected exaggerated turns like in a rollercoaster. It's not a realistic story and as a whole it is only for a special audience since unavoidable MM content at the end like the coach minigame and pc turning into a (gay) sissy sucking cocks is not everybody's fetish.
(Probably large part of the newer content should be removed to not distract the audience too far away from original story.)

- 2. PE 2 or PE Open World :

Use the chance to turn PE into an Open World game where teacher is only one option among others to progress. An open world where the pc more freely can explore sexual fetishes and kinks around female clothes, crossdressing, femdom, etc., where progress in crossdressing opens doors to new areas, new characters, new events with a bigger variety of MM/MF/FF content to suit a broader audience. Unless the pc agrees to a femdom relationship with teacher, teacher may play a more supportive role, just give hints and manipulate. To be able to crossdress as girl at school, the pc would need direct support by teacher (who could cover the whole affair as experiment for sociological studies.)
I suppose that most of the current events could be reused with little changes, but the trigger system which events are when available would have to be reworked.
In contrast to a VN an open world game not necessarily needs fixed endings. It would feature (repeatable) events the player would unlock/access by progressing with the characters in the game (story lines), training his skills (crossdressing, etc) and by fulfilling certain dress codes. New updates would add new events to the different areas so that the players could continue to explore the expanding game world or repeat events they like.
 
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Regarding the new changes for patreon, you maybe should consider to branch the project :

- 1. PE Legacy version :
Make a shortened PE Legacy version which concentrates only on the original story ("immature male ... is slowly corrupted on three sides by his Teacher, Therapist and Guardian") where the pc starts straight possesed by strong sexual fantasies about females around him (mostly Teacher and Guardian) and is turned into the object of his own former sexual fantasies, a sexy female looking toy (which can be used by the females to pacify sexual aggresive males.) This story is a one way street where the player can only go in one direction ... down ... do a step and fall down, make another step and fall even deeper. It lives to a large part from the many unexpected exaggerated turns like in a rollercoaster. It's not a realistic story and as a whole it is only for a special audience since unavoidable MM content at the end like the coach minigame and pc turning into a (gay) sissy sucking cocks is not everybody's fetish.
(Probably large part of the newer content should be removed to not distract the audience too far away from original story.)

- 2. PE 2 or PE Open World :

Use the chance to turn PE into an Open World game where teacher is only one option among others to progress. An open world where the pc more freely can explore sexual fetishes and kinks around female clothes, crossdressing, femdom, etc., where progress in crossdressing opens doors to new areas, new characters, new events with a bigger variety of MM/MF/FF content to suit a broader audience. Unless the pc agrees to a femdom relationship with teacher, teacher may play a more supportive role, just give hints and manipulate. To be able to crossdress as girl at school, the pc would need direct support by teacher (who could cover the whole affair as experiment for sociological studies.)
I suppose that most of the current events could be reused with little changes, but the trigger system which events are when available would have to be reworked.
In contrast to a VN an open world game not necessarily needs fixed endings. It would feature (repeatable) events the player would unlock/access by progressing with the characters in the game (story lines), training his skills (crossdressing, etc) and by fulfilling certain dress codes. New updates would add new events to the different areas so that the players could continue to explore the expanding game world or repeat events they like.
I slowly believe
a (gay) sissy sucking cocks
is the point in all sissy-games

but for your second PE Open World I'm with it
have fun
 
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