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I must say that I'm not normally into the voice acting but I will miss this one. I normally play these games muted as my wife at home won't appreciate it nor will my boss at work. Lol. I just out of curiosity played this one with the VA a while back and just thought the voices SW picked were dead on for the characters. Unfortunately I had to stop all my patreon supports and can't start to support any new ones for now. Have to wait for my job to pick back up, but as soon as I do I will definitely support SW as I love both the games he is working on. Keep up the good work.
 

punisher2099

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Okay replaying both versions, I have come to realize that the revamp is way better in quality and all model including Paris looks better. It was minor things that threw me off with Paris's model

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The older version of Paris looks like a fake bimbo. That being said I like her original hairstyle way better. I'm sure I will get used to the new style but I am going to always like the original hairstyle better. I also like the silverish blue color of Pairs' original hair better too. That being said just some minor nitpicks I have.

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In my opinion the revamp looks better quality and the skin texture and color are what give it the something off vibe.

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I think the tattoo looks a bit too dark on the revamp. Also, feel like the skin seems a little too smooth on all the revamped models could use a little texture to give it a more realistic look.

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I am not exactly sure what is different other than the older model has a few more mole or skin imperfections. Perhaps the eyebrows are a bit different too.

Overall I think all the models look great. The only thing that could help them is a bit of texture to the skin that would make it feel more realistic. I wouldn't mind the older hairstyle and color for Paris's new model but that is minor. Otherwise, keep up the good job!
Sasha and Sabrina look better with darker eyebrows and Paris should have her old hairstyle on the new model IMO
 

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Well SuperWriter I just finished playing the 0.6 Revamp. The improvements on a lot of the backgrounds of all the scenes is amazing. Feels and looks more natural. The scenes inside their house appears more home like then the previous version.

Now my critique:
The one scene with Miracle sitting in the back seat her one hand seemed a bit large to me
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There were times Miracle's eyes had a look as if she smelled someone's 3 day old gym socks.

When both Sabrina and Miracle were in the scene, it seemed to me Miracle was looking at MC but Sabrina was looking just above.

As I played I've come to like Paris' new look,
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As for Sasha, I understand you only wanted just her one arm but I will still miss her chest piece.

As a whole I still enjoyed the revamp, partly because I can see the care you take too create it as you envisioned it. Looking forward to playing the rest once your satisfied it's ready.
 

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I must say that I'm not normally into the voice acting but I will miss this one. I normally play these games muted as my wife at home won't appreciate it nor will my boss at work. Lol. I just out of curiosity played this one with the VA a while back and just thought the voices SW picked were dead on for the characters. Unfortunately I had to stop all my patreon supports and can't start to support any new ones for now. Have to wait for my job to pick back up, but as soon as I do I will definitely support SW as I love both the games he is working on. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I wanted the voice acting to work out, too, but, man is it expensive lol. And it certainly is not worth all the money just for some people to like it, and most not really care either way.

But I totally understand the financial situation with everything going on and appreciate you willing to support me in the future! I will keep working hard regardless anyway to give you some good stuff to play

Well SuperWriter I just finished playing the 0.6 Revamp. The improvements on a lot of the backgrounds of all the scenes is amazing. Feels and looks more natural. The scenes inside their house appears more home like then the previous version.

Now my critique:
The one scene with Miracle sitting in the back seat her one hand seemed a bit large to me
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There were times Miracle's eyes had a look as if she smelled someone's 3 day old gym socks.

When both Sabrina and Miracle were in the scene, it seemed to me Miracle was looking at MC but Sabrina was looking just above.

As I played I've come to like Paris' new look,
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As for Sasha, I understand you only wanted just her one arm but I will still miss her chest piece.

As a whole I still enjoyed the revamp, partly because I can see the care you take too create it as you envisioned it. Looking forward to playing the rest once your satisfied it's ready.
I'm glad you're enjoying the revamp and I appreciate all the constructive criticism. I will see about Paris' hair and everything else you said. Thank you!
 

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I'm guessing you do alt+tab key to switch to some other open app if someone walks by.
I actually play on my phone, so I just switch off the screen when someone gets close. Plus I have a privacy screen on it, so I'm good in case anyone gets too close.

Plus you'd be surprised on the sheer number of deviants that work out here. These games are pretty tame compared to some of the guys that watch porn openly, lol
 

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Not really a fan of the model changes and I particularly dislike the changes to Sasha. Dropped out of my top 5 with this update.

Hopefully this will be the last reboot/remake/reconceptualization for awhile.
 

MOAR Cowbell

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For me it is:
Sabrina > Sasha > Miracle > Paris
Am I the only one who has Brina at the top?
Yep you are the 1% lol even speaking as a Brit myself well English Man.

For me it's Sasha > Paris > Sabrina > Miracle.

However that is the good thing about being different people we all have different likes and the order changes between people.
 

BigDaddyDom

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Hey SuperWriter !

You've been such a good sport about all of the feedback on the recent revamp (even if it hasn't all been constructive :LOL:) so I thought I would share my 2 cents!

It's been really clear from comments that beauty is totally subjective, and there's no way you can satisfy everyone. As others have said, whatever you think is best is obviously the way you should go. That being said, I still wanted to share my observations with the slim hope you might agree :LOL: I know you aren't likely to make changes based on this, but thought I could offer more context for prior comments that maybe weren't too clear or helpful.

First off, it's impressive how quickly you were able to revamp almost the entire game. In an age when more and more devs are taking over half a year just for one small update, we have to give credit to your speed and consistency.

Second, the increased quality of your renders is undeniable. You can see the difference in the details in the rooms, as well as lighting, and the characters. Now, about those character changes:

Sabrina:

I love what you did with Sabrina. She used to be my least favorite character, but now she may possibly be #1 or #2, entirely due to her upgraded look. Her character is the clearest example of the better quality of renders. I'll be referring to the quoted picture below as it really demonstrates a lot of the observations I've made. As you'll see in the below pic, her eyes, bridge of nose etc. actually look photo realistic!

Paris:

I like the new Paris for all the same reasons others have already mentioned. She looks more age appropriate now (22). I always thought the old version looked way too old, so this was a "fix" that I can get onboard of. In my opinion she also looks hotter now, and more feminine.

Miracle:

So I've already mentioned I preferred her old look for same reasons as others - she kind of lost her innocence and youthfulness. She still looks hot, but maybe older than you intended, she comes across as late 20's now to me. I was trying to figure out why, and also why I agree with comments about her looking more "dead" now...and I came back again to her EYES.

If you look at the below pic again, maybe you'll see what I mean. Compared to the others, Miracles eyes look a lot older due to the wrinkles you added. More realistic sure, but definitely older. Also, the top lashes point out instead of out, making her eyes look smaller. The bottom lashes are really long, dark, and thick creating kind of an eyelash RING around her eyes that looks super creepy to me. I think this might be what others were referring to when the said she looks "dead" now. If you cover the bottom lashes, doesn't she go back to looking more like a normal person?

Besides the eyelash ring and smaller eyes, another reason Miracle seems less lively (and IMO less attractive) is the dark eyes. Her old hazel/light green eyes made her stand out a lot more. Miracles body still looks great (and new clothing!), I just wish you would let her shave that 80's style bush she has, or at least make it trimmed like Sabrina's! :ROFLMAO:

Sasha:

I'm totally on board with the decision to remove most of the tats, especially the chest tat! Unfortunately I have to agree with what a lot of others said that her face looks noticeably worse now - let me add some context though so you know why I'm saying this.

First of all, she definitely looks more "real" now for sure. You can see the better definition in the hair and skin etc, and as you said she looks less shiny. I think that might actually be the issue though. Maybe part of the reason many of us thought Sasha looked so hot before was because she was flawless. To me, the shininess didn't really come across as "plasticy" too me, but more like polished unblemished skin, perhaps with help of coverup. The pores in her new skin make it look somewhat more real, but also makes her look aged.

Same with her eye brows. They look more realistic now, but IMO her old darker/longer brows made her look a lot better. It's kind of like how girls use the brow pencils to give more definition. I'm not exactly sure what happened with the eyes, if they are smaller, or if it's the eyelash ring again, darker shade of green, enlarged iris - but there's something about her new eyes that don't "pop" like before.

Ok, hope this doesn't come across as complaining or criticizing your work! The improvement in your renders is noticeable, and your storytelling is still fantastic. I just think a few of the changes you made in the interest of realism might have backfired a bit. Some of us pervs prefer 3d renders because they can make girls look BETTER than they do in real life, even if less realistic, and that isn't necessarily bad.

Anyway I know you've already said you wouldn't change anything based on our feedback, but just some food for thought. I do miss Miracles old eyes and Sasha's old face :love:

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something bothered me how Sasha looked, something alien in her, and I found (and also the anatomy of the head by the way)

What's with Sasha's iris? is she a mutant? why are they so big?
 

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Hey SuperWriter !

You've been such a good sport about all of the feedback on the recent revamp (even if it hasn't all been constructive :LOL:) so I thought I would share my 2 cents!

It's been really clear from comments that beauty is totally subjective, and there's no way you can satisfy everyone. As others have said, whatever you think is best is obviously the way you should go. That being said, I still wanted to share my observations with the slim hope you might agree :LOL: I know you aren't likely to make changes based on this, but thought I could offer more context for prior comments that maybe weren't too clear or helpful.

First off, it's impressive how quickly you were able to revamp almost the entire game. In an age when more and more devs are taking over half a year just for one small update, we have to give credit to your speed and consistency.

Second, the increased quality of your renders is undeniable. You can see the difference in the details in the rooms, as well as lighting, and the characters. Now, about those character changes:

Sabrina:

I love what you did with Sabrina. She used to be my least favorite character, but now she may possibly be #1 or #2, entirely due to her upgraded look. Her character is the clearest example of the better quality of renders. I'll be referring to the quoted picture below as it really demonstrates a lot of the observations I've made. As you'll see in the below pic, her eyes, bridge of nose etc. actually look photo realistic!

Paris:

I like the new Paris for all the same reasons others have already mentioned. She looks more age appropriate now (22). I always thought the old version looked way too old, so this was a "fix" that I can get onboard of. In my opinion she also looks hotter now, and more feminine.

Miracle:

So I've already mentioned I preferred her old look for same reasons as others - she kind of lost her innocence and youthfulness. She still looks hot, but maybe older than you intended, she comes across as late 20's now to me. I was trying to figure out why, and also why I agree with comments about her looking more "dead" now...and I came back again to her EYES.

If you look at the below pic again, maybe you'll see what I mean. Compared to the others, Miracles eyes look a lot older due to the wrinkles you added. More realistic sure, but definitely older. Also, the top lashes point out instead of out, making her eyes look smaller. The bottom lashes are really long, dark, and thick creating kind of an eyelash RING around her eyes that looks super creepy to me. I think this might be what others were referring to when the said she looks "dead" now. If you cover the bottom lashes, doesn't she go back to looking more like a normal person?

Besides the eyelash ring and smaller eyes, another reason Miracle seems less lively (and IMO less attractive) is the dark eyes. Her old hazel/light green eyes made her stand out a lot more. Miracles body still looks great (and new clothing!), I just wish you would let her shave that 80's style bush she has, or at least make it trimmed like Sabrina's! :ROFLMAO:

Sasha:

I'm totally on board with the decision to remove most of the tats, especially the chest tat! Unfortunately I have to agree with what a lot of others said that her face looks noticeably worse now - let me add some context though so you know why I'm saying this.

First of all, she definitely looks more "real" now for sure. You can see the better definition in the hair and skin etc, and as you said she looks less shiny. I think that might actually be the issue though. Maybe part of the reason many of us thought Sasha looked so hot before was because she was flawless. To me, the shininess didn't really come across as "plasticy" too me, but more like polished unblemished skin, perhaps with help of coverup. The pores in her new skin make it look somewhat more real, but also makes her look aged.

Same with her eye brows. They look more realistic now, but IMO her old darker/longer brows made her look a lot better. It's kind of like how girls use the brow pencils to give more definition. I'm not exactly sure what happened with the eyes, if they are smaller, or if it's the eyelash ring again, darker shade of green, enlarged iris - but there's something about her new eyes that don't "pop" like before.

Ok, hope this doesn't come across as complaining or criticizing your work! The improvement in your renders is noticeable, and your storytelling is still fantastic. I just think a few of the changes you made in the interest of realism might have backfired a bit. Some of us pervs prefer 3d renders because they can make girls look BETTER than they do in real life, even if less realistic, and that isn't necessarily bad.

Anyway I know you've already said you wouldn't change anything based on our feedback, but just some food for thought. I do miss Miracles old eyes and Sasha's old face :love:
Definitely appreciate all the feedback. One thing that I seriously am considering changing is Miracle's eyes and eyelashes.

As for Sasha, it has been pretty much a 50/50 split on her with some saying she looks better and some what you say but I honestly think she looks fine. The older version of her can look more attractive to others but she just does not look realistic and more like a video game character which is the look that I don't want. I think the new Sasha is plenty hot and I doubt any of us would turn her down in real life ^^

Thank you for the feedback!
 
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Definitely appreciate all the feedback. One thing that I seriously am considering changing is Miracle's eyes and eyelashes.

As for Sasha, it has been pretty much a 50/50 split on her with some saying she looks better and some what you say but I honestly think she looks fine. The older version of her can look more attractive to others but she just does not look realistic and more like a video game character which is the look that I don't want. I think the new Sasha is plenty hot and I doubt any of us would turn her down in real life ^^

Thank you for the feedback!
Yes please! Miracle's eyes should be violet! Or at the very least, blue or green. I have been mentioning this seems I saw her first.

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Definitely appreciate all the feedback. One thing that I seriously am considering changing is Miracle's eyes and eyelashes.

As for Sasha, it has been pretty much a 50/50 split on her with some saying she looks better and some what you say but I honestly think she looks fine. The older version of her can look more attractive to others but she just does not look realistic and more like a video game character which is the look that I don't want. I think the new Sasha is plenty hot and I doubt any of us would turn her down in real life ^^

Thank you for the feedback!
I truly hope you change your mind on Sasha. I think removing her chest tattoo, while for me is a minus I can see why you did it. But I really think the older model just looks better. I think if you even just added back her distinctive jaw line it would add to her facial features a ton. Without it her face just looks flat.
 

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I truly hope you change your mind on Sasha. I think removing her chest tattoo, while for me is a minus I can see why you did it. But I really think the older model just looks better. I think if you even just added back her distinctive jaw line it would add to her facial features a ton. Without it her face just looks flat.
I get you like the old Sasha but I think the new one just looks better. Hopefully you can learn to love this one too =]
 

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unfortunately Ren'py does not allow you to have a character creation and to play with the pre-made characters and variants of those .... it would be so much easier to satisfy everyone :D . Superwriter made a choice. It's up to us to adapt to it, whether we are a fan of the changes or not

I have also given my opinion and Superwriter several times his. Although I would love to see the old model of sasha but with the current graphics quality he cannot make a specific version for each of us (imagine that after this game is over he remakes it with the old models .. . just to please some people. it would be a waste of time and resources)
 
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