Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[dartred]

Him saying that he is going to give us a status update later kinda scares me. If he doesn’t feel confident to say it’s released in first or even second half of December could mean it’s not even releasing this month. I don’t mean to put doubt I. People’s minds though. He could just be waiting until it’s closer so he can have a more accurate estimate.

 

[maynardkeynes65]

Him saying that he is going to give us a status update later kinda scares me. If he doesn’t feel confident to say it’s released in first or even second half of December could mean it’s not even releasing this month. I don’t mean to put doubt I. People’s minds though. He could just be waiting until it’s closer so he can have a more accurate estimate.

That's a good point Dartred, but remember he also said on discord that there are no WP this month since it is update month

 

[pinkie96]

Him saying that he is going to give us a status update later kinda scares me. If he doesn’t feel confident to say it’s released in first or even second half of December could mean it’s not even releasing this month. I don’t mean to put doubt I. People’s minds though. He could just be waiting until it’s closer so he can have a more accurate estimate.

I'm pretty sure the status update was that it was releasing later this month, not that the status update was that there was going to be another status update.

WWG also said "No wallpapers on update months" in the discord which confirms it's releasing this month.

 

[Dmob_6438]

Him saying that he is going to give us a status update later kinda scares me. If he doesn’t feel confident to say it’s released in first or even second half of December could mean it’s not even releasing this month. I don’t mean to put doubt I. People’s minds though. He could just be waiting until it’s closer so he can have a more accurate estimate.

I bet the Dev will probably release it before Christmas, I hope so we waited long enough for this chapter. Also since Ch.13 will be the last chapter, I feel like that chapter should have the NTR scenes be Canon like have 3 endings a good ending, bad ending and a twist endin.

 

[SuddenReal]

I feel like that chapter should have the NTR scenes be Canon

I'll be honest, I've seen this come up a few times, and I don't get it. I mean, yes, the NTR endings are the bad endings and the game takes you back to before the choice because it's not canon, but it's the last chapter. No matter what you pick, it's an ending. If you want it to be the canon ending, then just stop playing.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

I bet the Dev will probably release it before Christmas, I hope so we waited long enough for this chapter. Also since Ch.13 will be the last chapter, I feel like that chapter should have the NTR scenes be Canon like have 3 endings a good ending, bad ending and a twist endin.

To be honest, introducing a bad ending into canon would contradict the plot and the way the story was going from WWG... I don't think it's a good idea, there are two sides to it. A canon where there is a harem/vanilla and NTR where you make a mistake and there will be a consequence and it is considered a bad ending, but introducing this into the canon is somehow too much when there is already a “Bad Ending”

something fans want too much from NTR

 

[Dmob_6438]

I'll be honest, I've seen this come up a few times, and I don't get it. I mean, yes, the NTR endings are the bad endings and the game takes you back to before the choice because it's not canon, but it's the last chapter. No matter what you pick, it's an ending. If you want it to be the canon ending, then just stop playing.

Yeah I understand that but I’m just saying in my opinion it would be cool to see the last chapter have multiple endings. even though I know the dev would never make the NTR be Canon unless its the dog

 

[RitaRoseVrataski]

when is the update ?

 

[MAGO-DAG]

NTR be Canon unless its the dog

As for the dog, it’s still a guess... if it does become a canon plot where it can fuck Sterling’s family, I don’t know what to expect next... I was surprised that last time she also remained in canon history

 

[Snugglepuff]

The game already has multiple endings, in every chapter in fact, its called "bad ending" for a reason, the main reason is that it ends the story in a bad way, and the fact that there's nowhere to proceed despite leaping back to the choice reinforces that.

The Bad Ends aren't the same thing as having Multiple Endings.

The Bad Ends are just a more flavourful "Game Over" screen to be avoided in order to progress through the story, hence why they are explicitly non-canon.
Multiple Endings is when the story leads to one of many conclusions to the story. Some can be good, some can be bad or inbetween. There can even be variations of Good/Bad outcomes depending on individual character stories/arcs, but they are still part of a story's conclusion.

 

[SuddenReal]

The Bad Ends aren't the same thing as having Multiple Endings.

They are in the final chapter.

Multiple Endings is when the story leads to one of many conclusions to the story.

Only if there's multiple storypaths in the game, which there aren't.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Only if there's multiple storypaths in the game, which there aren't.

I never said, or implied that there was.

I was clearly explaining the difference between the Bad Ends that we've been getting all through the game, and someone's assertion that it equates to having multiple endings... Which it doesn't.

 

[dartred]

Yeah, you guys are right. he did say no WP on update month. So i guess the status update for the status update really is just to figure out exactly when he thinks it'll come out this month.

As for bad endings next chapter. I for one hope there are "canon" bad ends. Like more fleshed out and don't reset you. To give you the feel that that's an antagonist path more then just their moment.

Of course, i'm still curious if the damn Brenna x Cerberus scene is going to be canon in the sense that it was canon for Rebecca. Only canon if you let it happen, but canon to those who also didn't. That way both sides of players have their own canon if they want it.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

As for bad endings next chapter. I for one hope there are "canon" bad ends. Like more fleshed out and don't reset you. To give you the feel that that's an antagonist path more then just their moment.

Sooner or later there will still be a bad ending in the canon, looking at some moments everything is heading towards this, the question is what kind of bad ending will there be in the canon? Cerberus phenomenon? that Drew is Lucia's father and he will take her? or where Hunter blamed the whole mess on Sterling and he gets kicked out of the house? in canon the bad ending I don’t think that it will be connected with the fact that someone will fuck the girls, it looks somehow too unexpected, unless we’re talking about Cerberus’s dog... I’m inclined that in canon the bad ending will be where Sterling is kicked out or blamed his.

 

[dartred]

what i want to see make it into the main game is pregnant sex. So far we've only seen them pregnant in 1 bad end and only fuck while pregnant in what ifs. I hope he did some pregnancy bad ends this chapter.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

what i want to see make it into the main game is pregnant sex. So far we've only seen them pregnant in 1 bad end and only fuck while pregnant in what ifs. I hope he did some pregnancy bad ends this chapter.

I absolutely agree about sex with a pregnant woman's, basically the story would be very cool! I'm especially looking forward to the pregnancy of Ophelia or Brenna where they will quite possibly have very cool sex scenes, I wish the pregnancy plot was longer, I hope WWG will think about it, sometimes endings with pregnancy ends quickly without much of a story...

 

[john984]

what i want to see make it into the main game is pregnant sex. So far we've only seen them pregnant in 1 bad end and only fuck while pregnant in what ifs. I hope he did some pregnancy bad ends this chapter.

It would be awesome if the whole final chapter the girls are in their late pregnancy or at least half the chapter

 

[Snugglepuff]

If you try and compare to lets say, a COD TDM skirmish, its not just dying and respawning, its when the enemy team got to 100 kills and you lost the match.

or lets take a LoL match, it resembles when the enemy team manages to destroy your nexus, kaboom, the end.

A better example would have been Black Ops 2's singleplayer, since a competitive multiplayer example is the most ridiculous thing to even try and work into some semblance of a comparison to a story with multiple game-over points or even one with multiple endings.

Why Black Ops 2?
That story had minor branching points that affected how the story unfolded (including who lived and died which also affects the overall ending) and the endings as well.
There are "Bad Ends" that happen each time you die ingame, leading to going back to the most recent checkpoint.

A recent and better example is Baldur's Gate 3.
Same as above, but with the addition of several points in the game where a decision/action can lead to a literal early Bad End to the story, including being killed by a "god" early on, or even the Player Character being taken over and made a part of the very thing the plot is centred around preventing.
Those bad ends however, are not part of the multiple endings of the game, because they are game-over moments. Just like all the times with the non-canon Hunter NTR scenes.

 

[Hermit76]

Logically all "bad end" game overs of previous chapters can't be canon in the actual chapter - simply because they cannot have happened, before now the actual chapter happens. Or else you would not play the actual chapter. That might be debatable, if you stop playing after a game over. Then maybe you could regard this bad end as your personal "canon" ending. But as soon as you play for example chapter 11, automatically all "bad endings" of previous versions become non canon.

 

[JenMistress]

Status update is up. It just says Status update to come later this month. In bigger news, he says CH 13 is pretty much looking like the final CH. He is doing all he can to set this chapter up for CH 13 to be the finale.

Considering I first started playing it with Chapter 11 was out, guess I jumped onto this game close to the end, just two more afterwards. Really enjoyed this game, so kinda sad to hear it ending.