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Dude, literally the entire page is being discussed about the blocking of Patreon PV, and here you are talking about teasers...
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Maybe someone saved them, that's whyDude, literally the entire page is being discussed about the blocking of Patreon PV, and here you are talking about teasers...
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If anyone did save the teasers, sharing them now would be unfair to the WWG devs, and disrespectful while the page is under suspicion
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THE FUCKIN CAMEO FOR CATHERINE HAS ME IN TEARS
THIS GAME MIGHT BE PEAK
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I know what you're saying but "my patrons" in FAQ section isn't added by a mod, but... I'll just let it be, hopefully some mod will delete/edit it... Sorry for the pinged message
I understand and we all know this but please remove this message as it clearly hints that WWG is adding/developing the above said content and applying it into a patch so that people can enjoy the game in the original form.
It's not hard to add this up; The 'fan-patch' is actively updated when each chapter is released. The 'fan' whomsoever it may be definitely knows and keeps things interesting while developing the patch with the game.
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There are pills for that!
you can NOT fault me for that, you left the barn door wide open!
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This game has both "kinetic novel" and "sandbox" tags (which I find weird). Does this has a main a game and separate kinetic novels (or the opposite) or does the dev managed to mix two apparently opposed concepts in one game?
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two in one. You get to move around the house and visit scenes slightly as you wish, but you still need to see all scenes before you can move onto the next chapter. There is an in-game to do list you have to follow to complete a chapter.
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It's kinetic novel that masks itself as a sandbox. It allows the player to pick the order of events somewhat but will roadblock your progression because "to continue with X path you need to finish Y and Z paths". If you've played Lust Theory there's a similar situation there.
There should probably be a subgenre for this sort of thing. But it's basically kinetic with a little bit of freedom.
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OK... But, unless there are two separate entities (that is, a first chapter/part/game that is kinetic and a follow up that is a sandbox game), it shouldn't have the kinetic tag. Kinetic novels are the ones who don't have any choice/branch and so on. They run like a comic/film (or a mix between both; it all depends on how animated they are or not). I know there are many "games" disguised as sandboxes thay you end up feeling it was a (fully or almost) kinetic novel, but that's not the way tags are usually applied here and tags should be applied consistently.
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I get what you're saying. But unless we want to argue for a new tag (possibly "kinetic-lite"?) this game is more kinetic than sandbox. If you boil it down to its core there is no player agency in this game (minus the NTR "bad endings" that get retconned anyway). That, to me, makes it a kinetic novel. Yeah you can sort of determine the order of the minor scenes but all major plot points are static and unchangeable.
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The what ifs are all Kinetic one shots and this site doesn't really give side stories it's own page. I'm assuming the kinetic novel might be for those. Since those don't have the sandbox part.
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I made a comment on the new tag discussion but, for now, the definition of the "kinetic" tag is "when a a visual novel style game presents the player with no choices." Thus, if there is any choice (and I can't conceive a game having multiple endings without having any choices), it's not kinetic. I'm ok with both tags if, as I said before, there are two entities (I could say two "games", but a kinetic novel is not a game; therefore, I'm using "entities") like a 1.0 that's kinetic and, them, the dev decides to do a follow up that is sandbox (or even a multiple-choice visual novel; it could also be the opposite, but it's rarely the case). Even though, for the sake of the developer, I thing there should be two entries (that is, two threads), because, for example, I usually filter out kinetic novels... So, if the dev applies both in a game, he might limit his audience (or, if the tags are applied by moderators, they'll be limiting it for him).
As I said, I know there are many games that are ambiguous, but it would be unfeasible to use this rule consistently: it would be necessary "judges" for it case. So, it's better to use the "kinetic" only for the strictest sense kinetic novels (and this is even the rule posted in the link above).
Moreover, most games have kinetic parts (cut scenes, interludes, prologues, epilogues, etc.); if we start to add "kinetic" to every game that has something like that, the tag will become redundant, and strict sense kinetic novels will be undetected (for both lovers and haters).
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Ehhh. The thing is this game's "choices" are actually non-choices. Yes, they exist but they don't do anything in terms of effecting the story. The NTR "bad endings" aren't actually endings at all. They're basically the equivalent of short paths that end in "Game Over" screens that allow you to go back and make the correct choice instead.
I know I'm not the only one that sees the "choose the order you play through story parts but are ultimately forced to play through all of them" isn't actually a choice. It's the illusion of choice. You could alter the game and make it 100% kinetic and the end result would be the same between the two versions. All plot points, all lewd scenes revealed, etc... it would be the same game.
So despite the game having "choices" I think it is more kinetic than it is sandbox.
No arguments here but it won't change the fact that writing a non-kinetic novel with actual game-changing choices available to the player is hard. It's easier for porn devs to hide the kinetic nature of their novel by injecting the illusion of choice. And they do this because there are a lot of gamers that don't view kinetic visual novels as games at all and (like you) filter them from their feeds. To that end I would say if you have a hard line against kinetic novels then you should avoid this one.