I wouldn't mind if it's only 1-4 updates if its full of sex scenes, it's short but it gets the job done. Plus people are already hating devs that are delaying games for 2 years with no sex. Also it doesn't have to be a slow corruption, hunter has the money, the skills and the dong to make it happen quick. Sterling on the other hand is the opposite but has the looks but because he's trying to fuck his own family with the chances of possibly impregnating them he has to do hard work for it first. Sure the reading to get there is fun but every other game is the same.
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Intresting look on game. I don't agree but still interesting.
But even if its true. It would disturbed me if i knew dev personally. I don't. So i honestly don't see it as bad thing. I think it helps to see them as characters not pixels on screen. Its not so rare for the author to put piece of himself into his creation.
And aslo i am glad that there was no NTR scene there. Because the only option for that to haapen is for MC to run away leaving Lucia there. Not so long ago i played the game with similar choice. Only worth. MC could leave his sister with thug while doing his own thing. And the game was also a comedy. Ofcourse you can NOT choose that. But i still feel a little dissapointed in protag. Well thats another story.
And also i said it again and again. The main theme of this game not to force the other people. What people mistook for the passiveness is just common sence and actually care about people.
However there is truth in what you are saying. I think the problem is inner monologue. Or its lacking. At the start MC started to have desires and he is thinking about it and Hunter's words. But he was silent in that theme for some time. What i want to know is what HE wants now. Catherine and he sexual education for example. Does MC want to just to help her or he is using it to have sex her. Propably not the latter, but he must understand that things are definetly not normal.
But admitting his desires and all their interaction will become one-sided seductin and corruption. And he would be like Hunter. He doesn't want that. But no doubt he has desires. And thats how passiveness started. He won't make first move and stop when girl said - NO. But he wants them (even if he doesn't admit that) and use situation for that so he is a little creep.
I think i know what yoy are talking about but still you can't know if its dev opinion or he just creates it for characters.
But even if its true. It would disturbed me if i knew dev personally. I don't. So i honestly don't see it as bad thing. I think it helps to see them as characters not pixels on screen. Its not so rare for the author to put piece of himself into his creation.
I am sorry but you are literally the first person with that opinion. So you think he needed to relax when two old mans watching and commented that? Accepting bj in his room is one thing, with other people looking at you is the other.
And aslo i am glad that there was no NTR scene there. Because the only option for that to haapen is for MC to run away leaving Lucia there. Not so long ago i played the game with similar choice. Only worth. MC could leave his sister with thug while doing his own thing. And the game was also a comedy. Ofcourse you can NOT choose that. But i still feel a little dissapointed in protag. Well thats another story.
And also i said it again and again. The main theme of this game not to force the other people. What people mistook for the passiveness is just common sence and actually care about people.
Maybe you jist forgot that most of these girls are his relatives and their relationships is on fact taboo and could have consequences.
However there is truth in what you are saying. I think the problem is inner monologue. Or its lacking. At the start MC started to have desires and he is thinking about it and Hunter's words. But he was silent in that theme for some time. What i want to know is what HE wants now. Catherine and he sexual education for example. Does MC want to just to help her or he is using it to have sex her. Propably not the latter, but he must understand that things are definetly not normal.
But admitting his desires and all their interaction will become one-sided seductin and corruption. And he would be like Hunter. He doesn't want that. But no doubt he has desires. And thats how passiveness started. He won't make first move and stop when girl said - NO. But he wants them (even if he doesn't admit that) and use situation for that so he is a little creep.
Every other game the same for simple reasons. Its working. For devs it good strategy for money. And for players. Well, you may think so but trust me you won't like game when you can have taboo sex right from the start. Its kills taboo itself. Eery good game need struggle, crisis, conflict. Because anticipation is also part of pleaure and the pleasure when you finally there, you won. That is why corruption game is so popular. But with too much grind or waiting too long its can be not so fun.
For your idea it will be more like DLC for main game after it will end. Well its on dev.
He isnt passive physically, and no that isnt how it works when you care for someone(a platonic relationship, anyways). No guy in existence doesnt know when being physical turns into something more. I never said he should force anything, but it comes across like he is trying to pretend to be an innocent bystander, that is creepy.
No, what I want him to do is stop pretending he isnt helping push these situations into happening and try and blame the girl for everything. It comes off as really manipulative(yet the narrative doesn't support a manipulative MC, so it's just dumb).
That doesn't really apply for him. Nobody is doing sexy photo shoots with their sister and "just trying to help" yet at the same time the MC tries to act oblivious, again creepy, forcing the girl to carry all the emotional baggage.
This is the reason I still enjoy the game despite the creepy vibes. I know it isnt a serious game and the dialogue when it is good is really good.
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As opposed to a guy who tries to get it on with his sisters.
Look, this isn't just an incest game, or a satire. This is a corruption game, one that works both ways. It's not the trope perverted MC that corrupts everyone in the household (that's Hunter's job), it's the innocent, well intended MC that gets corrupted as well. You bring up the photo shoots. Yes, he was "just trying to help". Lines were drawn, lines were blurred, and things escalate to the point of crossing. The MC doesn't want to cross those lines.
I mean, he WANTS to cross those lines now, but he still doesn't want to, because that would be morally wrong. If you're trying to retort "if he wants to cross those lines, how can you say he doesn't want to at the same time? That doesn't make any sense", I simply say "well, you're playing an incest game, do you want to have sex with your family?"
I don't get where you come up with the "blame the girl for everything". He never blames anyone. He just freaks out with Lucia because that situation went completely out of control. To use a dumb analogy, it's like taking a kid to a firing range to have them shoot a gun for the first time, only for the kid to start shooting people and asking you proudly if they did a good job.
As for "forcing the girl to carry all the emotional baggage", again, no idea what you mean by that. Do you mean that the girl has to take the first step? Well, you saw how Catherin reacted when the MC tried to take the first step. You can call it manipulative, but there WILL be emotional baggage, no matter what. Let's take Brenna for instance: if Brenna takes the first step, yes, she'll feel guilty, but the MC will be there to help her through it. If the MC takes the first step, she'll still feel guilty and blame the MC for taking advantage of her in a moment of weakness, ruining their relationship. You can say it's hypocritical, but we're still talking about a taboo subject, something that's morally wrong. You need full consent, and as it has been stated in the game, "I love you" doesn't count during orgasmic bliss, so neither does "consent".
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Im not sure i agree. I mean sure i do that it stalled a bit for obvious reasons as the MC was out of commission i feel certainly as of latest chapter hes overcome some personal hurdles which were oviously going to be there for him regarding going deeper down the rabbit hole regarding his interactions with his nearest and dearest but now hes a "teacher" for one, full on threesome city highway for another and the mother? hes chasing that rabbit down that hole through his own volition not hers if anything. His confidence has peaked in my opinion especially as hes breaking new barriers with his cousin (the one i think he most was resisting as unlike the others she was the least threatened by Hunter as she sees through his shit so there was the least incentive to break down his relationship norms with her but after being put on the spot hes accepted things), is full on cucking with the aunt to his netori big dog credit and is actively fuckinng his childhood crush as well as Eva now (and likely the asian will be next). He aint no male feminist as far as i can see, hes a full on fucking hulk of a horn dog.
Im sure there will still be some mental barriers to get through but thats not because this is some script, its because its a likeable nice guy MC who is being FORCED to do things routinely against his will and with people he wants to protect more than anyone because its that or hunter gets his way. There is no mental holiday for him to recover as every day the old bastard is scheming in the background and is only upped his game the more success the MC has to put him on edge (now having evidence and leaving MC almost powerless as an observer behind a wall). I thought the last chapter was by far best chapter yet so i would at very least fully complete said chapter and see where you stand with the game but yeah ive got no qualms with where its going or how its been written. In fact the only time i really wasnt overtly immersed in the story was the role playing section but it was more for comedy than being actively engaging and naturally i think the fact it had little to no consequences was perhaps the largest factor in my indifference to it, it still a good excuse to at least pander to those who wanted more NTR scenes at least.
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Just wanted to say big time props to op, this game is wonderful, I have never laughed so hard playing a porn game, it's got genuine quality banter, which, fucking hell, actual comedy shows struggle to do it this good. I hope op does some writing outside of porngames, and I hope he gets a succesful comedy writing career, because this man's got talent.
Also loved how much the game builds actual emotional relationships with the characters, and isn't just "horny boy fucks everyone". Definitely my favourite porn game of all time.
Also loved how much the game builds actual emotional relationships with the characters, and isn't just "horny boy fucks everyone". Definitely my favourite porn game of all time.
If i remeber right he made NTR events last. Thats why it would be in last preview.
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your memory is correct. NTR is the last thing he works on. if he is keeping up with his trend of releasing a teaser every week+1day. next teaser should be today(sunday).
3 updates ago, it was thursday. 2 updates ago it was friday. last update was saturday. i think next update will be sunday. unless he goes back to bi-weekly teasers or releases one at a random time.
3 updates ago, it was thursday. 2 updates ago it was friday. last update was saturday. i think next update will be sunday. unless he goes back to bi-weekly teasers or releases one at a random time.
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Makes sense since it's not canon it's not really a priority. I play it with ntr off but I think the scenes aren't even animated right? So it's not like it takes as much time as a regular scene to make.
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No they’re animated. Some of them are some of the best scenes in the game tbh and I’m not a super big fan of NTR either
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Really they are animated? I think I only saw a couple and they weren't animated. Either way it's not like he releases a bunch of them each update. So it's not as time consuming as the other scenes.
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the ones in the first chapter are not but after that i think they all are to varying degrees and even though hunter is gross they are all pretty hot and some of them are pretty funny. Like i said i don't really like NTR either, i don't go looking for it and avoid it in games usually, but there are a couple games where it is really pretty good, this is one and The Spellbook is another. If you are a fan of this game i think you owe it to yourself to check out the scenes. Though i get people not wanting to.
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I don't think I can, it's really hard to look at hunter he looks like a mutated zombie from resident evil. I think I'll stick with my no ntr playthrough