Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[dartred]

I was liking it at first but then I realized that the MC could have got rid of hunter in chapter 3, got rid of Kevin through blackmail, etc. Why the hell wouldn't he convince Lucia to go back home? She's another person to keep safe, and the MC sucks at that anyways.

Condemned has a point, why the hell were they upset? His father treated ONLY him like shit and they think they have the right to be mad at him for leaving. Sad, sure, but angry? Yeah, no.

Also, this game should have been a VN, there are no choices and "sandbox" is just clicking 20,000 times to complete an event.

then you guys are missing the part that the HOUSE belongs to Hunter, not Ophelia. He is making the payments. it's setup so that if Sterling rats on Hunter, they won't have a place to live. Also Hunter has videos on the family too. who knows if the video's aren't on a timer that Hunter must reset every night so if they do anything to him, it uploads or releases onto the internet and every one they know, destroying their lives.

 

[DanteRed]

Damn, that actually happened!?! I'd rather not protect people who can fuck a man who looks like he has 3rd degree burns.......

I wish games like this would let the MC be more angry and spiteful. How hard would it be to wear a wire and blackmail Hunter and the other dirtbags with their own blackmail? Oh, you set up cameras, drugged everyone, and you're blackmailing me? Oooh, too bad I got that on tape(Those are serious crimes, you could put the fuckers away for years). If the MC was more proactive rather than reactive it'd be easy to blackmail hunter(He's not THAT smart, just more proactive). There are money problems, but he could blackmail hunter to pay it off and leave.

Think about it, drugging a house of women, setting up hidden cameras without permission, Lucia could tell the police that he tried to grope her or whatever, extortion, sextortion, etc. I feel as if the MC is stupid which is a huge problem for me. Also, why the hell would he accept the BJ from Aliza knowing Kevin could have audio recording too? He's handing blackmail material over on a silver platter.

I understand what you mean regarding blackmailing Hunter but I feel that it wouldn't really change anything. They're already in a stalemate since Hunter treats the situation like a game and I bet the moment Sterling would try to blackmail him back, old scarface would show the family what he's been doing with each of them out of spite.

Alright, I agree that the plot can be dumb at times, but it needs to be this way in order for there to be a story. If you want an excuse as to why Sterling isn't as proactive, well, the dude is 19 years old so he doesn't have that much experience and he's pretty busy every day both mending his relationship with his family and protecting them from Hunter.

As for the Kevin thing, I was bothered by that at first as well but who knows, it might set up a redemption arc for him in the future, if things become too tech related at some point and Sterling needs some help in that department? He did seem to be pretty disappointed that Aliza and Sterling didn't do the deed when he had the chance.

 

[Crese1967895]

then you guys are missing the part that the HOUSE belongs to Hunter, not Ophelia. He is making the payments. it's setup so that if Sterling rats on Hunter, they won't have a place to live. Also Hunter has videos on the family too. who knows if the video's aren't on a timer that Hunter must reset every night so if they do anything to him, it uploads or releases onto the internet and every one they know, destroying their lives.

That's not the problem I have with this game. The MC himself is the problem. Open the spoiler and read Condemned's review, almost everything he says correlates with what I think of the MC. The MC doesn't take the situation serious enough, he reacts to everything and never tries to make the first move. Why the hell would he let Kevin get more blackmail material than he already had? Why didn't he take advantage of the situation when Hunter was passed out to check his laptop(Probably locked, but he didn't TRY). I know that Hunter owns the house, BADIK had a similar problem with Maya's college being paid by her dad. That doesn't mean he can't TRY. The MC damn near gave up on his family when his dick stopped working, he obviously doesn't care about them that much.

 

[dartred]

WWG has said that Sterling has to play the reaction game. He can't know what Hunters plans are. Yes, he knows Hunter is making a move, but never THE move.

it sounds like you don't have a problem with the story, you have a problem with NTR.

why haven't you said 1 situation where Sterlings making a move on any of the girls doesn't make sense? oh what's that? you don't care about THAT progress? you want to nitpick what you don't like?

 

[Crese1967895]

then you guys are missing the part that the HOUSE belongs to Hunter, not Ophelia. He is making the payments. it's setup so that if Sterling rats on Hunter, they won't have a place to live. Also Hunter has videos on the family too. who knows if the video's aren't on a timer that Hunter must reset every night so if they do anything to him, it uploads or releases onto the internet and every one they know, destroying their lives.

I've read one of your earlier post's about Lucia jerking the MC off in a cabin full of old men which furthers my complaints. Doing that puts herself in-risk, and if she doesn't care about her safety why should I? Why would I give a damn about someone who can't bother to protect themselves? I can't care about characters getting raped if they don't. I can't feel connected to characters that are imbeciles. That's another deal-breaker.

The MC let Kevin and Hunter gather MORE blackmail material, he isn't proactive, he isn't at least half-smart, he whines all the time, etc.

Why wouldn't hunter care about going to prison? If he releases pics of their family he could be sued for all his money for multiple reasons. They could easily move away and the heat would die down in a few months. But lets say all of this is dumb and won't work. If he can't blackmail Hunter he can be more proactive. Set up devices that let off a pitch only hunter's hearing aids could pick up which would prevent him from meandering into their rooms, take lessons on hacking so he could eventually get rid of all hunter's blackmail(And others), Gather blackmail/evidence of his own so he could eventually get rid of Hunter and the others, create his own account and post pictures with Eva or another willing participant like Brenna to save enough money to rid Ophelia of house debt, etc. Their are many things the MC could do that he is too stupid to figure out. He could set up cameras in hunters room to figure out his laptops password or to find any physical photos he may have.

 

[ropershy]

Exactly. He hands blackmail to these people on a silver platter....

This review sums up everything I think of this game:

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Spot on. I have often wondered why in so many of these games the MC's are beta males. Where the heck is the ALPHA males in these games?? I remember one game (not this one) where the bitch sister came into the bathroom while MC was taking a shower and took pics of him naked. Then threatened to post the pics if he didn't become her slave and OBEY her! HE GAVE IN!!!! UGHHHHHH. He should have said "Knock yourself out bitch"

This game if i remember correctly. All the girls are mad at him for not keeping touch with him. Let's see he was 15 he had to run away from home to escape the Dad. Mom and older sister didn't even try to protect or support him. He should have just stayed away. But he came home. Fine. First MAN THE HELL UP!! Get rid of Hunter and Drew and take all they have including other women in their harems. Second turn Mom and Sisters into his very own sex slaves!!!! They deserve nothing less!

 

[ropershy]

That's not the problem I have with this game. The MC himself is the problem. Open the spoiler and read Condemned's review, almost everything he says correlates with what I think of the MC. The MC doesn't take the situation serious enough, he reacts to everything and never tries to make the first move. Why the hell would he let Kevin get more blackmail material than he already had? Why didn't he take advantage of the situation when Hunter was passed out to check his laptop(Probably locked, but he didn't TRY). I know that Hunter owns the house, BADIK had a similar problem with Maya's college being paid by her dad. That doesn't mean he can't TRY. The MC damn near gave up on his family when his dick stopped working, he obviously doesn't care about them that much.

The Kevin stuff bothered me as well. What was the point in turning the MC into "THE INCREDIBLE HULK" just so he can act like some 12 year old pussy? He should have grabbed that fat POS by the throat and shoved him through the wall!

 

[Crese1967895]

WWG has said that Sterling has to play the reaction game. He can't know what Hunters plans are. Yes, he knows Hunter is making a move, but never THE move.

it sounds like you don't have a problem with the story, you have a problem with NTR.

why haven't you said 1 situation where Sterlings making a move on any of the girls doesn't make sense? oh what's that? you don't care about THAT progress? you want to nitpick what you don't like?

Lol, what? I don't even have NTR turned on, so why would my problem be with NTR? I can nitpick the characters, here:

Why would Ophelia touch the MC's dick and barely reflect on it? Why would Brenna be comfortable with her brother(Who she hasn't seen in four years mind you)be okay with seeing his dick? Much less him seeing her naked. Why would Aliza have barely any guilt with her nephew eating her out? Why is Eva so easy? She supposedly only slept with 4 men but is okay with fucking the MC for a favor.

Guess what, NONE OF STERLINGS ACTIONS MAKE SENSE!! THATS MY FUCKING POINT!!! HE. DOESN'T. THINK! THIS IS YOUR AVERAGE INCEST STORY WITH A DASH OF BETA AND NTR!! THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS GAME IS THE GRAPHICS/RENDERS!!

STORY is IMPORRTANT to me. This game has a half-assed story with an idiotic MC. I toss any game without a good story into the recycling bin.

DeLuca Family, Harem Hotel, BADIK, Rebirth, Where It All Began and Summers Gone all have at least ONE thing in common. A good story. DeLuca Family doesn't have any sex scenes at the moment but I anticipate it's next update because it's story is fantastic.

I didn't expect that from this game, but I at least wanted an MC that I would like. The MC is a hair-brained fool, Lucia was wants to go to the forest and strip even though Hunter could have followed them, etc. Their is no character depth in this game at all. I'd give it 3 stars if it were a VN, but constant skipping repeat scenes and grind whittles this down to a 2.

 

[dartred]

it sounds like you hate the entire game. why are you even here?

to add to everything, you are questioning porn logic. name 1 incest porn game that does everything right. that just doesn't exist.

 

[PBS666]

The Kevin stuff bothered me as well. What was the point in turning the MC into "THE INCREDIBLE HULK" just so he can act like some 12 year old pussy? He should have grabbed that fat POS by the throat and shoved him through the wall!

Maybe Sterling doesn't want to be arrested on charges of assault and battery ? This ain't the Age of Conan the Barbarian you know

 

[dartred]

i like how they argue that Sterlings actions don't make sense, but then come up with actions... that don't make sense.

 

[DanteRed]

Yeesh, you guys know that you're over analyzing this game, right? I mean, it's a porn comedy. If everything were to be done in a rational, logic way, then no way in hell would Sterling be able to think of all the ways he does to beat Hunter. Again, it's a comedy. Just relax and enjoy the ride (and the rides )

 

[Crese1967895]

it sounds like you hate the entire game. why are you even here?

to add to everything, you are questioning porn logic. name 1 incest porn game that does everything right. that just doesn't exist.

I'm here because I played 6 Chapters of this garbage. "THaT JUsT DOeSN't ExiSt" I never said this has to be perfect, I'm saying the MC is a retard. Where It All Began does Incest WAY better than this.

I only started to hate the MC after he let Aliza give him a BJ with the camera facing him. I already had doubts, but that scene amplified them(Along with Condemned's review). I don't hate the game, I hate the MC..

 

[Crese1967895]

Yeesh, you guys know that you're over analyzing this game, right? I mean, it's a porn comedy. If everything were to be done in a rational, logic way, then no way in hell would Sterling be able to think of all the ways he does to beat Hunter. Again, it's a comedy. Just relax and enjoy the ride (and the rides )

Can't say I found this game in any way funny. I'd rather watch Hunter and Kevin spitroast the MC rather than play as him. I'll stop here, no reason to argue my point more than I already have. Well, have fun with this game. I can't say I enjoyed it, but if it brings you guys pleasure(Emotionally and Physical)I won't cuss and berate you for it.

 

[Crese1967895]

i like how they argue that Sterlings actions don't make sense, but then come up with actions... that don't make sense.

Explain how this makes no sense:

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How does learning how to hack Hunters computer so he can delete the pics in the cloud and hard drive/SSD not make sense? How does learning how to give Hunter's PC a virus so he can't use it not make sense? How does tuning a device to let off a sound to hunter's hearing aids not make sense? How does gathering blackmail and/or evidence on Hunter and Co. not make sense? How does the MC making his own money instead of relying on Brenna not make sense? It's already been shown she can't manage her money(Purchasing a Juke Box, Paintings, and a Large TV).

 

[Archif1]

The only girl who really hated MC in the beginning was Brenna, because she believed that he had gone off to live the high life, abandoning all of them. But when the MC begins to tell her little by little what his life was like in those 4 years, she realizes that she was wrong and begins to treat him better.
I'm going to agree with you on the MC issue by applying a UNO reverse card to Hunter and blackmailing him, but I think WWG is saving that for later, when the old shit has played his cards. Also, on a separate note, Hunter has already told the MC that everything he recorded is in the cloud, so trying to delete it from his PC is completely useless.

 

[dartred]

Explain how this makes no sense:

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How does learning how to hack Hunters computer so he can delete the pics in the cloud and hard drive/SSD not make sense? How does learning how to give Hunter's PC a virus so he can't use it not make sense? How does tuning a device to let off a sound to hunter's hearing aids not make sense? How does gathering blackmail and/or evidence on Hunter and Co. not make sense? How does the MC making his own money instead of relying on Brenna not make sense? It's already been shown she can't manage her money(Purchasing a Juke Box, Paintings, and a Large TV).

i'll explain some, but not all. i'm not gonna over analize and suck the fun out of this game. If you can't let the game be silly and suspend your disbelief, then sorry, but you're just grumpy.

Because Hunter said DON'T attempt to stop him. Setting up something that blows up his ears everytime he walks into a room is going to set off a "I think he's not listening to me flag", don't you think?

They ARE going to be taking hacking lessons, that is something we learned this chapter. What if none of them are willing? Brenna is willing but only because she doesn't show her face, it's an assumption if they join or not and we can't argue "ifs and buts".

we don't even KNOW where Hunters computer is or even on a network. you can't hack something, if it isn't connected to the internet and you don't know where the physical device is held. We haven't been shown once.

I said i would only do a little, but those were to easy to argue against.

 

[Crese1967895]

The only girl who really hated MC in the beginning was Brenna, because she believed that he had gone off to live the high life, abandoning all of them. But when the MC begins to tell her little by little what his life was like in those 4 years, she realizes that she was wrong and begins to treat him better.
I'm going to agree with you on the MC issue by applying a UNO reverse card to Hunter and blackmailing him, but I think WWG is saving that for later, when the old shit has played his cards. Also, on a separate note, Hunter has already told the MC that everything he recorded is in the cloud, so trying to delete it from his PC is completely useless.

That's why I said he should learn how to hack. I can access the cloud on my PC, if he deleted the cloud pics and inserted a critical Virus it would be damn near impossible to retrieve those files.

 

[PBS666]

How does learning how to hack Hunters computer so he can delete the pics in the cloud and hard drive/SSD not make sense?

How would you handle the files that are on remote media in an inaccessible location, like say an SD card in a bank vault ?

 

[zackjack177]

idk what you ppl are doing cuz reading every other fucking giant paragraph. But im gunna guess over analyzing a comedy porn game. Don't over analyze a comedy porn game. Go outside. Go call your grandma you havent seen in year you bastards. Go make your own game so I can go on YOUR thread and bitch there