Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Crese1967895]

i'll explain some, but not all. i'm not gonna over analize and suck the fun out of this game. If you can't let the game be silly and suspend your disbelief, then sorry, but you're just grumpy.

Because Hunter said DON'T attempt to stop him. Setting up something that blows up his ears everytime he walks into a room is going to set off a "I think he's not listening to me flag", don't you think?

They ARE going to be taking hacking lessons, that is something we learned this chapter. What if none of them are willing? Brenna is willing but only because she doesn't show her face, it's an assumption if they join or not and we can't argue "ifs and buts".

we don't even KNOW where Hunters computer is or even on a network. you can't hack something, if it isn't connected to the internet and you don't know where the physical device is held. We haven't been shown once.

I said i would only do a little, but those were to easy to argue against.

By "Hack" I meant Virus. And didn't the MC already see his PC? Before he switched the drinks around? And when he showed him recordings of Brenna and the MC?

I'll agree that the hearing aid one might not work, but he didn't complain when his first batch of cameras where taken. How the hell did he manage to purchase a second batch even when he said he couldn't because of the risk being put on a watch list?

And excuse me for not getting past chapter 6.

I need to stop replying, it won't help anything anyways. Well, if you enjoy it , you enjoy it.

Have fun with the game. At least I'm proud to say I didn't fall into insulting opinions that aren't my own. Maybe your right. Maybe I should have used less logic and turned off my brain. Well, this game just isn't for me.

Best of luck to the author and even though it may seem as if I utterly hated it, I actually enjoyed it for the first 5 chapters.

 

[Archif1]

That's why I said he should learn how to hack. I can access the cloud on my PC, if he deleted the cloud pics and inserted a critical Virus it would be damn near impossible to retrieve those files.

My guy, you're doing what Zack just said, over analyzing a comedy porn game.
Ok then, the MC does that, then what? He goes full Mission Imposible mode on Hunter and Drew ass?
You are giving super complicated solutions to a simple game. I would understand if the MC was a tremendous nerd, but he is not, he is just a nice guy with a huge dick.
And to answer your complaint that he should learn to hack or use computers, in this last chapter, when they get rid of Kevin `` The Burger Killer '', they force him to teach them everything he knows about technology, hacking, etc...

 

[Crese1967895]

How would you handle the files that are on remote media in an inaccessible location, like say an SD card in a bank vault ?

How would he have enough time to do that? He just got his blackmail material in chapter 5 or 6. He'd have to rush to the bank after depositing the blackmail of the MC and Brenna onto the SD card which would be suspicious anyways. Besides, if he did that then the MC already lost.

 

[Ranma]

I can't help but have good laugh every time I see someone pedantically analyzing the logic of these plots, somehow expecting a freaking porn game to be the next Citizen Kane.

 

[Crese1967895]

My guy, you're doing what Zack just said, over analyzing a comedy porn game.
Ok then, the MC does that, then what? He goes full Mission Imposible mode on Hunter and Drew ass?
You are giving super complicated solutions to a simple game. I would understand if the MC was a tremendous nerd, but he is not, he is just a nice guy with a huge dick.
And to answer your complaint that he should learn to hack or use computers, in this last chapter, when they get rid of Kevin `` The Burger Killer '', they force him to teach them everything he knows about technology, hacking, etc...

Okay. I didn't play the latest chapter so I didn't know that. I can hop on a website full of malware and fuck my PC up in a few minutes without needing to hack, which is what I meant.

I'm agreeing to disagree. Well, goodbye!

 

[Crese1967895]

I can't help but have good laugh every time I see someone pedantically analyzing the logic of these plots, somehow expecting a freaking porn game to be the next Citizen Kane.

I can turn my logic off in a game that doesn't have NTR, but not a game that has it. I'll question every move the MC makes because of the threat of NTR, even when I know it won't happen.

Take twisted world for example(Really funny game, I recommend it), even though the plot is ridiculous I still laugh my ass off and wholeheartedly enjoy it. If NTR were introduced and the MC wasn't taking it seriously enough I'd be fuming in 10 minutes.

Also, what's Ranma 1/2 about? I haven't got around to watching it yet.

 

[PBS666]

How would he have enough time to do that? He just got his blackmail material in chapter 5 or 6. He'd have to rush to the bank after depositing the blackmail of the MC and Brenna onto the SD card which would be suspicious anyways. Besides, if he did that then the MC already lost.

Ok. Then forget the bank vault. Just a couple SDs, hidden somewhere at different places, including on his own body. The MC could never hope to find them.
Point is, your plot has flaws too. So I think I'll just be content with the original one.

 

[dartred]

I can turn my logic off in a game that doesn't have NTR, but not a game that has it. I'll question every move the MC makes because of the threat of NTR, even when I know it won't happen.

Take twisted world for example(Really funny game, I recommend it), even though the plot is ridiculous I still laugh my ass off and wholeheartedly enjoy it. If NTR were introduced and the MC wasn't taking it seriously enough I'd be fuming in 10 minutes.

Also, what's Ranma 1/2 about? I haven't got around to watching it yet.

but you said you turned NTR off. so if the NTR was making you question ever move, but you have it off, what was there to question?

 

[Crese1967895]

Ok. Then forget the bank vault. Just a couple SDs, hidden somewhere at different places, including on his own body. The MC could never hope to find them.
Point is, your plot has flaws too. So I think I'll just be content with the original one.

I didn't enjoy it, but if you do then good for you! We all have different tastes.

 

[Crese1967895]

but you said you turned NTR off. so if the NTR was making you question ever move, but you have it off, what was there to question?

dartred, No matter how you spin it the plot is about the MC trying to prevent NTR. Therefore, even with NTR turned off I still can't stop questioning the MC's actions and why he doesn't do this or that. I can't turn off logic with a game based on NTR. Even though I KNOW there won't be any, I still feel as if NTR will popup out of nowhere.

I will admit I over-reacted. Could the MC have done more? Yes, but even if he did it would most likely be insignificant. He's done plenty for the few weeks he's been there. If it were a few months then he would have had plenty of time to save money, gather evidence, and find a solution, and he'd be an idiot if he couldn't. The only thing he could do right now is gather blackmail on hunter and maybe plant a virus in hunter's computer, but as PBS666 said, he could have a hard drive hidden somewhere which would render that useless.

I don't like powerlessness, so that also contributed to my dissatisfaction. Anyways, as I've said, we all have different tastes. I don't like it, you do, that's all there is to it.

 

[Archif1]

I don't like powerlessness, so that also contributed to my dissatisfaction.

I don't think the MC is being powerless, rather he doesn't have time to take action and stop reacting.
Let me explain, since the beginning of the game, the MC has had to deal with all the girls' problems: Teaching Catherine what sexuality is, improving her relationship with Brenna and Ophelia, the whole problem with Lucia, etc.
And more and more girls appear, with their own problems. If he tried to act against Hunter right now, it would be like studying for an exam, when you still have a pile of homework to do.

 

[Ranma]

I can turn my logic off in a game that doesn't have NTR, but not a game that has it. I'll question every move the MC makes because of the threat of NTR, even when I know it won't happen.

Take twisted world for example(Really funny game, I recommend it), even though the plot is ridiculous I still laugh my ass off and wholeheartedly enjoy it. If NTR were introduced and the MC wasn't taking it seriously enough I'd be fuming in 10 minutes.

Also, what's Ranma 1/2 about? I haven't got around to watching it yet.

Spoiler: To answer your question about Ranma ½

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[ropershy]

I don't think the MC is being powerless, rather he doesn't have time to take action and stop reacting.
Let me explain, since the beginning of the game, the MC has had to deal with all the girls' problems: Teaching Catherine what sexuality is, improving her relationship with Brenna and Ophelia, the whole problem with Lucia, etc.
And more and more girls appear, with their own problems. If he tried to act against Hunter right now, it would be like studying for an exam, when you still have a pile of homework to do.

Ok I will agree about Hunter. But that doesn't explain MC pussing out and sitting on his hands with Kevin. The second he discovered the cam's in the bears he should have went and beat the crap out of Kevin

 

[ropershy]

but you said you turned NTR off. so if the NTR was making you question ever move, but you have it off, what was there to question?

With all due respect. I think the issue is how much a WHIMP the MC is being. I myself get why he can't do much but react to Hunter. But KEVIN the MC should have just beat the ever living tar out of him! I guess we are confused as to why give him all those Muscles if he isn't going to use them.
It seems the other part is how the girls mistreat him including his mother. When they just stood by and let his dad mistreat him. It is like the MC has no backbone at all.

 

[PBS666]

dartred, No matter how you spin it the plot is about the MC trying to prevent NTR. Therefore, even with NTR turned off I still can't stop questioning the MC's actions and why he doesn't do this or that. I can't turn off logic with a game based on NTR. Even though I KNOW there won't be any, I still feel as if NTR will popup out of nowhere.

I will admit I over-reacted. Could the MC have done more? Yes, but even if he did it would most likely be insignificant. He's done plenty for the few weeks he's been there. If it were a few months then he would have had plenty of time to save money, gather evidence, and find a solution, and he'd be an idiot if he couldn't. The only thing he could do right now is gather blackmail on hunter and maybe plant a virus in hunter's computer, but as PBS666 said, he could have a hard drive hidden somewhere which would render that useless.

I don't like powerlessness, so that also contributed to my dissatisfaction. Anyways, as I've said, we all have different tastes. I don't like it, you do, that's all there is to it.

Well, I think you take this story way too seriously. If you see it as a cartoon/comedy (like I do) where there are just silly situations that keep popping up, you might enjoy it more. Just think of Hunter as Wile E Coyote...

 

[hpshi]

i dont see a problam with taking it seriously however one should remember it is a story made by someone else and the maker gets to decide what to do with it. for exmple i would like to see the aunt and grandma (from the father side) return to make some kind of ntr reversel but i wont take it personally if the dev decide not to for whatever reason (mostly those are rare anyway for various reasons)

 

[PBS666]

With all due respect. I think the issue is how much a WHIMP the MC is being. I myself get why he can't do much but react to Hunter. But KEVIN the MC should have just beat the ever living tar out of him! I guess we are confused as to why give him all those Muscles if he isn't going to use them.
It seems the other part is how the girls mistreat him including his mother. When they just stood by and let his dad mistreat him. It is like the MC has no backbone at all.

As I have already pointed out, maybe this isn't the Wild West ? Kevin does maybe deserve to be beaten up, but the consequences for the MC could be far worse than what it's worth.

 

[Archif1]

The second he discovered the cam's in the bears he should have went and beat the crap out of Kevin

He actually was gonna beat the shit out of him, but then Kevin told him about all the stuff he had recorded of him and Aliza. Also, how he would explain all of that to Aliza, in the case he beat him anyway? The poor girl consireded that asshole as one of his only friends. So it was a No-No situation, so instead, he choosed to wait until this ball of fat tried to bite more of what he can eat. And it end up working in the last chapter.

It seems the other part is how the girls mistreat him including his mother. When they just stood by and let his dad mistreat him. It is like the MC has no backbone at all.

Like I said just now, the only girl who hated him was Brenna. Catherina was only offended and sad and her mother worried, because for them, the MC disappeared and he never gave importance to them again.
And about that they did nothing to prevent it. What do you expect from two teenagers and a woman with an abusive husband / father? In real life, hardly anyone does anything about domestic abuse in their own family out of fear.

 

[dartred]

Just want to be clear that Hunter never abused Ophelia. That's why she sees him as such a loving father. he held back all this time and waited for the right moment.

I could argue that he could have drove David (her husband) off with his tactics and had her much earlier, but then sterling would have never been born and the game wouldn't exist, etc lol.

 

[Archif1]

That's why she sees him as such a loving father. he held back all this time and waited for the right moment.

Also, when he was about to start making his way to Ophelia, she got pregnant 3 times in a row and after that, David find out everything and kick him out.
And when i said ''/father'' i was refering to David and not Hunter