Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[linkinn]

The Dev has said many times that these "what If" side stories take barely any time to make and will never take priority over the main game

There is not such a thing as "take barely any time to make" in VNs, the time he is wasting catering to a portion of his subs could be used to add a few extra scenes to the main game, he needs to write the side story, code, pose, render, post work and test.. so it is wasted time no matter how you see it, non-NTR subs are paying him to develop something they didn't asked/signed for. They can talk with their wallet tho, but we know how it goes.

 

[WardenPlaysz]

God, this thread is wonderful at times.
Turns out after a update is out and leaked, I need to bring snacks.

You know, not to ruin the thrill of it for the What If? people but its a couple animations, few still poses and some text, that takes nowhere near as long as a full chapter of stuff (even if Ch8 felt smaller than alot of the others).

People be like "he should spend this time on the main game", Lets say this What if? took 6 days like someone predicted, thats probably only 1-2 on the checklist in that time, and I don't mean fully, I mean like "Do Task 1-2/6" Based on how much of the animations and poses he reuses.

Considering hunter's warning, we may even be getting a new character next chapter, thats alot of work, depending on the chapter load, your looking at 3-5 months between chapters and whilst I get antsy waiting for the next chapter, its nice to have something else to play whilst I wait. Even if its like 10mins.

If you want things to come any quicker, support him enough to get a second PC to assist in rendering, or offer to help WWG in creating the content from your system.

TL;DR: What if?'s are here to stay, your not losing out on content and if your into whatever the vote ends up being, you get extra whilst you wait. Sulking like a baby isn't going to make them go away or make the next chapter come quicker... or stop my next-door neighbour from singing... but that part isn't your issue.

 

[dartred]

When the Vanilla what if comes out next month. You people crying about what ifs better cry as hard as you are now. I bet you won't say a peep when it's Vanilla.

 

[_13_]

There is not such a thing as "take barely any time to make" in VNs, the time he is wasting catering to a portion of his subs could be used to add a few extra scenes to the main game, he needs to write the side story, code, pose, render, post work and test.. so it is wasted time no matter how you see it, non-NTR subs are paying him to develop something they didn't asked/signed for. They can talk with their wallet tho, but we know how it goes.

Obviously, I can't speak for WWG, but game developers do more than work on their games. Some of us have full- or part-time jobs, some work on multiple games, some care for loved ones, but regardless we need some time to let our brains relax. That might be watching TV, or going to a sporting event, or just going for a walk outside. Whatever it is it's time when we aren't actively working on our game(s). That time isn't new, it's built into the update schedule you're already familiar with.

When a dev wants to do something extra for their supporters (like a special chapter), or maybe start work on a new game, or whatever game related thing it is, that doesn't mean time is being taken away from the first game. Many times it means reducing that personal time. That's not just because we don't want to disappoint our supporters, but we also want to finish our games.

Before I started making my own game, I had a list of a few dozen games (including this one) I would jump between when updates would come out. I had enough so that one or two would get updated every week or two. I didn't have to wait long to play something new. Now, I have so many games with updates waiting for me to play, I'm not sure I'll ever catch back up. I have games with more than one update I've missed. I just don't have as much time. I put time aside to do things, but games just aren't as high on that list. Something that is high on that list is working on character design for my second game. It doesn't take time away from the first game, but it does take time away from other things in my life.

TLDR: Bottom line: If WWG says the What If chapters don't take time away from making Power Vacuum, believe him.

 

[linkinn]

When the Vanilla what if comes out next month. You people crying about what ifs better cry as hard as you are now. I bet you won't say a peep when it's Vanilla.

Dont get me wrong but it'll still be a waste of time, just a non-exclusive waste of time.

 

[WardenPlaysz]

Dont get me wrong but it'll still be a waste of time, just a non-exclusive waste of time.

Unless you only like NTR, then it excludes you. All a matter of perspective.

 

[WardenPlaysz]

If you can fap to ntr you can fap to anything, even watching grass grow.

IDK, I like sex pretty much any way its shown I just put myself in the position of the Person doing the NTR, but im pretty sure there are some people that need that NTR feeling of getting cucked to fap. They would be excluded.

 

[bamachine]

OK, I am liking the humor so far but I swear, am I playing the part of Wee Man?

 

[mahmouedsamy]

i dont think so because 9 days ago it was 84% completed

I told you

 

[d_pedestrian]

If you can fap to ntr you can fap to anything, even watching grass grow.

shhh... don't kink shame. NTR folks are easily offended .

 

[NeaSake]

what is this what if ?

 

[WardenPlaysz]

what is this what if ?

Non Canon Extended content based on events in the main story

 

[no_name_742]

new content on one of my favorite games i wont complain but i do have something to say. i have no problem with the what if NTR stories but i wish they were a little different. my problem with the first what if was it was just a ntr ending that is very similar to the ntr endings in the main game, the second on at least isnt hunter but still a very similar style.

why not do something really different like what if MC's father sided with hunter (first thought that came into my head not a real suggestion) and it result in a different story all together. im not suggest doing a separate story or anything, same length and the players are expected and can piece together whats missing using their knowledge of the main game.

FYI im not a patron so i cant vote, and im ok with that, not planning on being a patron, my budget wont allow it.

 

[Blah Blah Blah]

There is not such a thing as "take barely any time to make" in VNs, the time he is wasting catering to a portion of his subs could be used to add a few extra scenes to the main game, he needs to write the side story, code, pose, render, post work and test.. so it is wasted time no matter how you see it, non-NTR subs are paying him to develop something they didn't asked/signed for. They can talk with their wallet tho, but we know how it goes.

This couldn't be more dumb, just because you view something as a waste of time doesn't make it so. There is clearly a portion of people that enjoy and look forward to the "what if's" otherwise the dev wouldn't decided to make them, the only issue so far is the lack of non-NTR/ vanilla content and once that is made both sides of the fanbase will be happy and cease this squabbling. You need to stop speaking your viewpoint as facts it just makes you come of narcissistic.

 

[dartred]

new content on one of my favorite games i wont complain but i do have something to say. i have no problem with the what if NTR stories but i wish they were a little different. my problem with the first what if was it was just a ntr ending that is very similar to the ntr endings in the main game, the second on at least isnt hunter but still a very similar style.

why not do something really different like what if MC's father sided with hunter (first thought that came into my head not a real suggestion) and it result in a different story all together. im not suggest doing a separate story or anything, same length and the players are expected and can piece together whats missing using their knowledge of the main game.

FYI im not a patron so i cant vote, and im ok with that, not planning on being a patron, my budget wont allow it.

Great suggestion. We need to go crazy and think outside the box. Suggestions don't have to be a continuation of an already established event or story.

 

[Darkinio]

So the update was chapter 8 or what if 2 ?

 

[dartred]

What if 2.

 

[linkinn]

This couldn't be more dumb, just because you view something as a waste of time doesn't make it so. There is clearly a portion of people that enjoy and look forward to the "what if's" otherwise the dev wouldn't decided to make them, the only issue so far is the lack of non-NTR/ vanilla content and once that is made both sides of the fanbase will be happy and cease this squabbling. You need to stop speaking your viewpoint as facts it just makes you come of narcissistic.

You are the one disregarding my opinion and calling it dumb, i'am not the narcissistic here. I only stated facts and they are not my facts, it's basic knowledge that so you or anyone here can play VNs someone must spend time making it, in this case it was spent making a side story (an exclusive one) instead of the main thing.

There is also a clear portion of people that don't look forward to the "what if's", what now? As i'am the narcissistic i'll say that only the clear portion of people that don't look forward matters and since you are not narcissitic you won't dare to say otherwise.

 

[Llamamann]

There is not such a thing as "take barely any time to make" in VNs, the time he is wasting catering to a portion of his subs could be used to add a few extra scenes to the main game, he needs to write the side story, code, pose, render, post work and test.. so it is wasted time no matter how you see it, non-NTR subs are paying him to develop something they didn't asked/signed for. They can talk with their wallet tho, but we know how it goes.

I agree with you; everything always takes time. And the time taken to make this COULD have been used to make more of the game.

However, when you have an active project like this you can apply those sentiments to everything you do. Time spent at work, with the family, doing other activities, is all time spent not making more of the game, that you COULD have used to develop. I have a game on the go, and I dedicate a certain number of hours to it each week. My side projects built with time spent in addition to the time I spend on the main game.

I can't speak for how WW spends his time, but you can't really either.

 

[Lurker]

You are the one disregarding my opinion and calling it dumb, i'am not the narcissistic here. I only stated facts and they are not my facts, it's basic knowledge that so you or anyone here can play VNs someone must spend time making it, in this case it was spent making a side story (an exclusive one) instead of the main thing.

There is also a clear portion of people that don't look forward to the "what if's", what now? As i'am the narcissistic i'll say that only the clear portion of people that don't look forward matters and since you are not narcissitic you won't dare to say otherwise.

Well. It's not "facts" saying something is a waste of time when it clearly is content worth checking out for other people. Like someone else said before: It's a matter of perspective.
And you only continued with kink-shaming. Those are the facts. Why do you expect people to engage in a well mannered conversation with you about this topic if you do nothing but vent your frustration?

We get it, you'd prefer if the Dev worked more intensively on the main-game so the actual content (that matters to you) gets released quicker. Alas, that's not how life works. I recommend not getting upset about issues like that. It's great being passionate about something but as soon as you start bothering people because you can't hold back your dissatisfaction about certain things it becomes just a toxic relationship. Once that shows you basically lost in all aspects anyways.

Also, the people don't "pay" the Dev in order to do create something following their demands. They are not his investors, they have no say in this. All they can do is make a decision to stop funding him. That's a huge difference to what you implied.

tl;dr:

Relax.