Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[DrAtoms]

funny how "those people who paid real currency" only talked about how much they liked it(see their little icon below their names, it show who they give money too, there a few in this thread), while random people keep saying how much "the dev milks" but so far none of them appear to ever paid for the dev work.

So yeah, the "white knight" or any other name calling you want to use isn't wrong in this case. The dev will keep creating the "what if" for as long as the people who keep using "real currency"(only 20$ and above) keep using it to support him, he'll keep giving them content they vote for and seeing as it's the second "what if" I'll say they ask for it(with quite a lot of votes too, a supporter share a screenshot with the number of votes), funny how that little trick works isn't?

read my last comment my boi and chill out a bit.

 

[ARB582]

I never once said the game was bad, I am also a fan, so just a fan talking to another fan, I come here to troll, comment, and help people just like you. I understand that we consumers don't get to pick and choose anything, what you get is what you get, you don't have to tell me. My concern is when I'm(as a fan) waiting for update from the main game and the creator delays it to make content that strays away from what I signed up for. That doesn't mean I'm angry and am demanding for what i want, I know all I can do is wait for new content. My remarks were for the "chad's" response, who obviously have no sense of humor, of a light hearted joking comment of "uh oh, looks like it's the begining of a milking process." Seriously... I'm now more concern about the fan base than the development of the game itself.

See the thing is update hasn't been delayed yet. The update was scheduled for October, and as far as we know its gonna drop in the latter half of the month. According to the dev these what ifs haven't delayed the main games update.
Now if he was to miss the deadline, then yes i would agree with the posts saying that these what ifs are delaying the game.

 

[DrAtoms]

See the thing is update hasn't been delayed yet. The update was scheduled for October, and as far as we know its gonna drop in the latter half of the month. According to the dev these what ifs haven't delayed the main games update.
Now if he was to miss the deadline, then yes i would agree with the posts saying that these what ifs are delaying the game.

Well finally someone that understands the situation and is chiming in, instead of being a smartass and defensive. I appreciate it man, for real, and I get that it isn't late either. I was just explaining to some people how it's a possibility that some creators use delay of game as a tactic to milk supporters, I've seen it happen too many times. Also, I was simply joking if u didn't notice my previous few extremely sarcastic comments, but people take everything personal now a days. I can wait, just like how i've waited for milfy city for over a year for an update.

 

[Deleted member 4041066]

but people take everything personal now a days

Seems definitely like it.

 

[SuddenReal]

but people take everything personal now a days

You're talking about me now, aren't you?

 

[Ravageroall]

I must have skipped over this game a bunch of times. finally played it and it is good really good. love the humor and the girls. I don't know if the dev checks this site but if they get a subscribeStar I'd be there. just cant bring myself to give holier than thou censorship AKA patreon money.

 

[WardenPlaysz]

I never once said the game was bad, I am also a fan, so just a fan talking to another fan, I come here to troll, comment, and help people just like you. I understand that we consumers don't get to pick and choose anything, what you get is what you get, you don't have to tell me. My concern is when I'm(as a fan) waiting for update from the main game and the creator delays it to make content that strays away from what I signed up for. That doesn't mean I'm angry and am demanding for what i want, I know all I can do is wait for new content.

this probably isnt happening, but will use these made up times because its easier time wise to bs this whole thing.
Say he spends 12hrs a day making PV, fine, thats the time he sets aside and we all wait for the update right?
now he goes on to making what if?'s, when you say delayed you make it sound like he has taken, idk, 2hrs out of that day to work on what if?'s. maybe he has, idk.
From my experience with game development (and design seperately), other devs and what i've seen about his upload speed and it coming out this month, its not the case, whats actually happening is hes working 14hrs a day, with just less free time.
The game was never delayed for what if's. If it gets delayed, it will be because of something irl or the game itself fucking up.

 

[LWtbo]

Interesting argument thats being made about how the game has not been delayed by the What If's.
And I really don't care if it was or not.

However which ever way and from which ever point of view I try to look at it I get the same result.
The updates are delayed by What if's.
It doesn't even matter if the update make its release date or not.

The fact is for arguments sake lets say the dev spent 8 hrs a day updating the game and 2 hrs doing a What If.
If he wasn't making the What If thats 2 more hours he could of spent on the update.

Doesn't even matter if he wouldn't of used the 2 hour's makeing the update had he not been making the What If.
The fact that he is means that he could have.

And more time spent on the update would normally lead to earlyer release time's.
Could just be 1/2 an hour earlyer or 5 hour's earlyer or a couple of days earlyer who knows.

So if the update is on time and not early then it must of been delayed by What If's.

But as I said I don't really care either way.
And if the Dev wants to make What If's for money he bloody well should do.

Just wish people would stop trying to imply they don't impact the making of the updates in anyway what so ever.

The only possible way that could be true is if its a whole other team that do's the What If's for him.

Just sayin.

 

[lipe2410]

For fuck sake, even in the month of the release of the next chapter people are still crying because this What Ifs. Guys, this month a new chapter arrive, let's be happy about that and forget this what ifs, please.

 

[WardenPlaysz]

Interesting argument thats being made about how the game has not been delayed by the What If's.
And I really don't care if it was or not.

However which ever way and from which ever point of view I try to look at it I get the same result.
The updates are delayed by What if's.
It doesn't even matter if the update make its release date or not.

The fact is for arguments sake lets say the dev spent 8 hrs a day updating the game and 2 hrs doing a What If.
If he wasn't making the What If thats 2 more hours he could of spent on the update.

Doesn't even matter if he wouldn't of used the 2 hour's makeing the update had he not been making the What If.
The fact that he is means that he could have.

And more time spent on the update would normally lead to earlyer release time's.
Could just be 1/2 an hour earlyer or 5 hour's earlyer or a couple of days earlyer who knows.

So if the update is on time and not early then it must of been delayed by What If's.

your gonna have to explain this one to me champ.
How can something be delayed by not doing something he wasn't doing anyway?
Its like saying a building got delayed because they are only working on it during work hours. Those are the working hours, and the schedule is set. A game can only be delayed if:
1. It falls behind that schedule.
2. It gets completed and then held onto past that schedule.

To each their own I guess, but no way on earth am I going to call a game delayed because someone didn't spend 24/7 on it so technically he could have put into the project than he currently is.

 

[HornyyPussy]

All this is a moot discussion anyway, the people who actually pay the Dev money in support of his development of this VN wanted the what if's so that's what we're gonna get. 100% understandable and the correct way to handle it by the Dev.

 

[Amber of flames]

I'm starting to understand what the fuss is about.
I normally wanted to see people's thoughts about the NTR.

But what I found is disappointing. The game, since it came out it had the tag of NTR.
When events of NTR were to happen it would have been stopped by the robot. Believe it or not but that is a bad thing. Since it removes all danger that it should happen...

NTR without NTR makes no sense, now that it actually has NTR it is balanced. But some cry babies forgot that this game has a NTR tag. And cries about it.

I actually felt pretty exited seeing the NTR that was blocked and I want to see the past NTR's as well as the future's NTRs.

But if these cry babies keep this up there might not be such a development.

 

[Deleted member 4041066]

But if these cry babies keep this up there might not be such a development.

None of them here is supporting WWG with the amount that you need so you get an access to them, so don't worry. Their opinion doesn't matter to WWG.

 

[HornyyPussy]

I'm starting to understand what the fuss is about.
I normally wanted to see people's thoughts about the NTR.

But what I found is disappointing. The game, since it came out it had the tag of NTR.
When events of NTR were to happen it would have been stopped by the robot. Believe it or not but that is a bad thing. Since it removes all danger that it should happen...

NTR without NTR makes no sense, now that it actually has NTR it is balanced. But some cry babies forgot that this game has a NTR tag. And cries about it.

I actually felt pretty exited seeing the NTR that was blocked and I want to see the past NTR's as well as the future's NTRs.

But if these cry babies keep this up there might not be such a development.

The NTR is toggable on/off in the game and the dev is releasing what if's with NTR, what more do you want?

 

[dartred]

I'm starting to understand what the fuss is about.
I normally wanted to see people's thoughts about the NTR.

But what I found is disappointing. The game, since it came out it had the tag of NTR.
When events of NTR were to happen it would have been stopped by the robot. Believe it or not but that is a bad thing. Since it removes all danger that it should happen...

NTR without NTR makes no sense, now that it actually has NTR it is balanced. But some cry babies forgot that this game has a NTR tag. And cries about it.

I actually felt pretty exited seeing the NTR that was blocked and I want to see the past NTR's as well as the future's NTRs.

But if these cry babies keep this up there might not be such a development.

You don't have to worry about that. The what ifs are very successful. Why stop making them when the people who ARE supporting him on patreon are actually praising them. What people say here shouldn't matter to him.

 

[SuddenReal]

When events of NTR were to happen it would have been stopped by the robot. Believe it or not but that is a bad thing. Since it removes all danger that it should happen...

But it doesn't remove the danger that it could happen, which is what the game is about. What you want is what killed a lot of games. Just porn with no story. Once Hunter wins, there's no more story since stopping him is what drives the story. The What Ifs are not part of the main story. Yes, now they are just continuations of existing storylines, but I'm sure, once we're on a roll, we'll get outlandish What Ifs that don't fit in the story.

 

[Satyr90]

I'm starting to understand what the fuss is about.
I normally wanted to see people's thoughts about the NTR.

But what I found is disappointing. The game, since it came out it had the tag of NTR.
When events of NTR were to happen it would have been stopped by the robot. Believe it or not but that is a bad thing. Since it removes all danger that it should happen...

NTR without NTR makes no sense, now that it actually has NTR it is balanced. But some cry babies forgot that this game has a NTR tag. And cries about it.

I actually felt pretty exited seeing the NTR that was blocked and I want to see the past NTR's as well as the future's NTRs.

But if these cry babies keep this up there might not be such a development.

If I'm understanding your post, then your issue is with the zero consequences/risk (NTR) of this game. If you choose the wrong thing then you want to live with the consequences. This isn't a new argument and I myself have argued this point in the past. I thought the game would've been better if the MC would compete for the girls with the old man, but instead, the author puts his thumb on the scale and forces a good/positive outcome. Which to me just makes the game a little boring if not predictable (still an enjoyable game though). The main argument is I've heard is that having an "NTR" game and a "Harem" game simultaneously being produced is simply too much work for any game developer. So this is the best compromise.

 

[DrAtoms]

your gonna have to explain this one to me champ.
How can something be delayed by not doing something he wasn't doing anyway?
Its like saying a building got delayed because they are only working on it during work hours. Those are the working hours, and the schedule is set. A game can only be delayed if:
1. It falls behind that schedule.
2. It gets completed and then held onto past that schedule.

To each their own I guess, but no way on earth am I going to call a game delayed because someone didn't spend 24/7 on it so technically he could have put into the project than he currently is.

All he's saying is, if the devs didn't spend time on what ifs, he/she/they could have release the game earlier, near the start of oct, rather than the upcoming. Theoretically, it isn't delayed, nor is it released either.

this probably isnt happening, but will use these made up times because its easier time wise to bs this whole thing.
Say he spends 12hrs a day making PV, fine, thats the time he sets aside and we all wait for the update right?
now he goes on to making what if?'s, when you say delayed you make it sound like he has taken, idk, 2hrs out of that day to work on what if?'s. maybe he has, idk.
From my experience with game development (and design seperately), other devs and what i've seen about his upload speed and it coming out this month, its not the case, whats actually happening is hes working 14hrs a day, with just less free time.
The game was never delayed for what if's. If it gets delayed, it will be because of something irl or the game itself fucking up.

I'm done having to explain myself, you're just taking a few things i say here and there and exacerbating the issue. You totally missed the point to begin with and any further discussion is a waste of time at this point.

 

[DrAtoms]

You don't have to worry about that. The what ifs are very successful. Why stop making them when the people who ARE supporting him on patreon are actually praising them. What people say here shouldn't matter to him.

It really depends on the developer tho, I've actually gotten dm from one of the devs of another game msging me for the review I did on his game. This might be a pirating site, but it's also a feedback site in a sort of way, I wouldn't be a surprise if some devs do come by to read some comments too.

 

[WardenPlaysz]

I'm done having to explain myself, you're just taking a few things i say here and there and exacerbating the issue. You totally missed the point to begin with and any further discussion is a waste of time at this point.

I am sorry you feel that way, I was choosing the main point I felt you were trying to make, because some stuff I didnt feel really needed me to reply on, such as:
"And not only that! Your attempt to ridicule a random person who was JOKINGLY making light of this matter just to raise some awareness, incredible. Right on dude! You've got me good sir! Hats off to you."
Like, why do I need to keep that in the quote? Id rather get to the meat of what was being asked and reply to that. I wouldn't say I exacerbated the issue, merely tried to explain it in a way I understood.

All he's saying is, if the devs didn't spend time on what ifs, he/she/they could have release the game earlier, near the start of oct, rather than the upcoming. Theoretically, it isn't delayed, nor is it released either.

That would make sense, but in the quote you didn't like, I gave an alternative, where instead of taking time from game development, he simply took it out of his free time. In that Alternative, the game would be released at the exact same time.
If WWG was taking time away from PV to work on WI then I'd get it and honestly to some level Id agree to what your saying. But experience and other Dev comments lead me to believe that isn't the case.

I hope that clarifies things a little, if not, then, even if you think it will be a waste of time, I will happily keep talking about it with you until we either agree or end choosing not to do so.