Stil996

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At this point, I'm mostly convinced you're just joking, but for the sake of making sure no one gets confused, I'll respond anyway. Also, I don't know why you are making comments about my sense of morality when I specifically said it's not an issue of morality, but whatever.
There are elements of humor in my posts (or attempts), but the underlying points stand as true.
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My point was that most people saying Drew is the "villain" are probably not making a moral judgement; they are talking about the game's structure.
Point #1
"Villain" is a definitely a moral designation, it is integral to it's meaning, perhaps I'm being unfair to those who have a poorer understanding of the English language, perhaps if they knew better they would have used words like "Antagonist" or "Rival" or "Competition".
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I just don't want anyone who might be new around here getting confused about the game's design. Within the game, Drew is an agent working against the interests of the player.
Point #2
Drew is an unknown at this point, all you have is Hunters word about her purpose being here. If I were Hunter and I had 2 enemies in the house, I'd tell each of them that the other was my friend, to stop them joining forces, but that's just me, who knows if Hunter thought of that. And who knows what Drews agenda is, I certainly don't, I'll find out as the story develops.
Point #3
(Wanting to fuck the same women you do does not make her evil)
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If you want to have a moral/philosophical debate about things, that's fine,
I'm not the one who brought moral designations into this, speak to those who love the "villain" label.
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but it doesn't change the game's design or the MC/player perspective. Yes, there's plenty of good argument to make the case that Ralph Macchio is the "villain" in Karate Kid, and we all got a great new streaming show out of that premise. I'm sure you could do the same with a lot of AVN's, this one included, but from a morally neutral literary perspective and game design perspective, Sterling is the protagonist and Drew is an antagonist.
That Karate Kid reference went over my head, I have no idea where you were going with that. I suspect the villain of the original Movie has had a spinoff and he is now the "protagonist", (or "hero" to people who don't know what the word "hero" means)

I'm glad someone knows the words Protagonist/Antagonist,
Protagonists aren't necessarily heroes, Antagonist aren't necessarily Villains. See point #1
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As far as philosophy goes, Drew seems to take just as much pleasure from the thought of hurting Sterling as from having sex. Taking pleasure in someone else's pain is always a morally dark action,
Maybe, such absolutes are always dangerous in philosophy.

Not sure I know where you you are getting that from, I must have missed the part where that came up.

Wanting Sterling to be in pain is justified, He is a little bitch who knowingly takes advantage of drugged women while laying claim to the moral high ground, I want him in pain, does that make me a villain?

PS this isn't about noncon content I have several noncon fantasies, it's hypocrites I don't like, if you are going to be the good guy then be the good guy, In real life I'd get those women a hospital even if I had to abduct them (that's what good guys do BTW when they think someone has been roofied). I would remove Hunter even if I had to slit his throat at the breakfast table, he would NOT have the opportunity to achieve his goals once I became aware of them (police would probably be my first option though).
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even if the other party is a villain. A lot of heroes that kill villains feel remorse and wish there had been another way to end things. If the "hero" kills a drug dealer and then orgasms from the sight of bloodspray and laughs as they watch the light go out of their eyes... that's not good.
Nothing in my Post was trying to promote any kind of moral content, I was arguing against superficial assumptions nothing more.
 

Solarous

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"horny-gas" attack by Drew, and that Drew's plan is basically, "sit back and let them all get horny from the gas until they're ready to jump on anyone they see, including me!" Drew is building a lazy-river of sex, where she can just relax and let the sex happen.
Good observation because it seem like Drew wouldn't mind
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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Sterling is the Villain here :p he knows the women are getting drugged, instead of rescuing them he is taking advantage of the situation to rape them. (Yeah he takes every opportunity to say "he respects their choice", bullshit... actions speak louder than words)
I am getting tired of playing with you.
Here is what you said! Sterling is the villain? HE IS THE FUCKING PROTAGONIST OF THE GAME! Blame the dev if Sterling's actions hurt your sensibility.
 

Fayn Arawn

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I'm thinking Drew is either not aware of the gas, or is not relying on it. Presumably Hunter rigged the AC when he had it repaired, and it's set up to periodically release the gas into the house. I seem to recall Hunter saying something like Drew didn't need such gimmicks because she was so good at seduction. This is supported by the NTR scene with Drew and Tiff at the spa, far from the influence of the gas.
 

dartred

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Question at the end of chapter Sterling
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why did he do this? or was it quip about getting drew to help him?
This is just my guess. Since Drew is giving it to his dad in the ass, he hopes it was big to make his dad suffer. Since he now knows his dad was cheating on his mom. I don't think it was a case of him hoping it was big because he wants some of it.
 

Stil996

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I am getting tired of playing with you.
Here is what you said! Sterling is the villain? HE IS THE FUCKING PROTAGONIST OF THE GAME! Blame the dev if Sterling's actions hurt your sensibility.
yeah he's the "protagonist", not a "hero" learn the difference.
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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Yeah imagine how short this conversation could have been if you actually read the posts you responded to. that was one of 3 points
I don't get why you are so badly focused on this.
Let me humor you then.

Sterling: Protagonist
Hunter: Antagonist
Drew: Antagonist

You can argue until the end of the times, but the reality is this: in the dynamic of the game and how the story is written Sterling is the good guy, while the other two are not!
 
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Stil996

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I don't get why you are so badly focused on this.
Let me humor you then.

Sterling: Protagonist
Hunter: Antagonist
Drew: Antagonist

You can argue until the end of the times, but the reality is this: in the dynamic of the game and how the story is written Sterling is the good guy, while the other two are not!
I agree with the protag/antag bit, Drew is an unknown though, and yeah I get it you think everyone who fucks the women you want is the enemy, but at worst I'd call her a rival, I haven't seen anything to prove one way or the other whether she will help or hinder the MC's cause

You and Storm were the ones pushing without reading
 
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whalat

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I don't get why you are so badly focused on this.
Let me humor you then.

Sterling: Protagonist
Hunter: Antagonist
Drew: Antagonist

You can argue until the end of the times, but the reality is this: in the dynamic of the game and how the story is written Sterling is the good guy, while the other two are not!
The protagonist isn't always the good guy, Anakin is the protagonist of the Star Wars prequels and he's not exactly heroic.
 
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