Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[ScareKing]

I agree with the protag/antag bit, Drew is an unknown though, and yeah I get it you think everyone who fucks the women you want is the enemy, but at worst I'd call her a rival, I haven't seen anything to prove one way or the other whether she will help or hinder the MC's cause

You and Storm were the ones pushing without reading

I agree with Drew being unknown, to me, seems like Drew dont want a bunch of girls just because sex is good, i think she comes to help Hunter but in her own way, i think its "fair" see her as antagonist since we barely know her so far, but i guess she will be more like a "anti hero", shes going to help somehow but definitely not in a good way.

 

[storm1051787]

No heroes in this game just Villains. (just how I like it)
The game doesn't tell you shit, The Antagonist tells you.
But since you seem to trust him I guess he must be telling the truth... he does have such a trustworthy face after all.

Which again is completely ridiclous for the reasons I mentioned. None of the girls were even drugged for Sterling scenes.


And why wouldnt you believe that Drew is on hunter's side. Half of their scenes involve trying to seperate sterling from everyone else. She even tried to say that 2 heads are better than 3 because the saying doesnt mention 3. That makes no sense at all and is clearly just an attempt to seperate them. We also have the dairy of Sterling father to go on. There is basically no evidence to suggest they arent on hunters side and you have to ignore information we are already given to try to make the claim, which is pretty much how your entire argument works.


There is also no reason for Drew to even be there if Hunter at least wasnt under the assumption that Drew was there to help them. She hadn't spoken to Ophelia and Aliza in 20 years

 

[Solarous]

I agree with Drew being unknown, to me, seems like Drew dont want a bunch of girls just because sex is good, i think she comes to help Hunter but in her own way, i think its "fair" see her as antagonist since we barely know her so far, but i guess she will be more like a "anti hero", shes going to help somehow but definitely not in a good way.

wolf in sheeps clothing

 

[dartred]

I have a question about the ntr path. Long time ago i remember that i can choose between with or without them. With every update i play the without Route. Can i switch between with/out ntr or do i have to play the game from the verry Start? I don't see any button.

I have always played with enable. The old way was to go to Hunters room in the map, click his face and turn NTR back on. Not sure, but try that.

 

[dafii901]

can any of u guys open gallery for chapter 10? cuz when i open gallery for chapter 10 the game always crash

 

[Solarous]

Which again is completely ridiclous for the reasons I mentioned. None of the girls were even drugged for Sterling scenes.


And why wouldnt you believe that Drew is on hunter's side. Half of their scenes involve trying to seperate sterling from everyone else. She even tried to say that 2 heads are better than 3 because the saying doesnt mention 3. That makes no sense at all and is clearly just an attempt to seperate them. We also have the dairy of Sterling father to go on. There is basically no evidence to suggest they arent on hunters side and you have to ignore information we are already given to try to make the claim, which is pretty much how your entire argument works.


There is also no reason for Drew to even be there if Hunter at least wasnt under the assumption that Drew was there to help them. He hadn't spoken to Ophelia and Aliza in 20 years

Which again is completely ridiclous for the reasons I mentioned. None of the girls were even drugged for Sterling scenes.



There is also no reason for Drew to even be there if Hunter at least wasnt under the assumption that Drew was there to help them. She hadn't spoken to Ophelia and Aliza in 20 years

Id like to speculate that drews plans are non nepharious but too much evidence shows that his/her plans are not good for sterling plus sterling has 1 on the fence ally who may or may not mind sterling being added to drews "harem" and barf face hunter cashing in on the ladies

 

[dartred]

can any of u guys open gallery for chapter 10? cuz when i open gallery for chapter 10 the game always crash

Gallery does not work for the Beta.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

can any of u guys open gallery for chapter 10? cuz when i open gallery for chapter 10 the game always crash

This is a BETA version without everything except strictly the Ch.10 content, so no gallery.

 

[fraisiday]

Thanks dartred. For your game and your Support in the foren

 

[Solarous]

You are focusing on the most USELESS details! Are you a Sheldon Cooper clone? You are correcting everyone on everything, grammar, semantic, perception.

I like that we can discuses about game but, while I dont mind being corrected but when its nitpicking thats a sure sign of trolling

 

[Maveric]

I would like to ask for a save on the chapter 9 where continue where i left off starting for chapter 10

 

[hibc4]

I would like to see a what if with Catherine in Amber similar to their bad end

 

[dartred]

You mean just a repeat of them with Hunter in their room?

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

I like that we can discuses about game but I dont want this too get too out of hand, while I dont mind being corrected but when its nitpicking thats a sure sign of trolling

Of course it is a sign of trolling!

 

[Solarous]

Of course it is a sign of trolling!

yeah you said it earlier and im convinced

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Of course it is a sign of trolling!

When people discuss story writing, communicating is more effective when they use the appropriate vocabulary. I know most people don't visit porn forums to get educated, by why are you so resistant? When someone corrects you, try thanking them and moving on, instead of being willfully ignorant.

Villain protagonists are common, e.g. The Godfather, Saga of Tanya the Evil, God of War, etc.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

When people discuss story writing, communicating is more effective when they use the appropriate vocabulary. I know most people don't visit porn forums to get educated, by why are you so resistant? When someone corrects you, try thanking them and moving on, instead of being willfully ignorant.

Villain protagonists are common, e.g. The Godfather, Saga of Tanya the Evil, God of War, etc.

You are missing the point.
I am getting tired but I will tell you what this is all about: all this charade is happening because we are using the word "Villain" referring to Hunter and Drew, instead of "Antagonist".
This is not a Court of Law where every single word, and the way you use it, matters; is a forum where we are talking about a fucking porn game.
There is absolutely no need to correct every single word used nor the perception we have about the characters in the game.

 

[storm1051787]

When people discuss story writing, communicating is more effective when they use the appropriate vocabulary. I know most people don't visit porn forums to get educated, by why are you so resistant? When someone corrects you, try thanking them and moving on, instead of being willfully ignorant.

Villain protagonists are common, e.g. The Godfather, Saga of Tanya the Evil, God of War, etc.

All of those are pretty clear that the protagonist is not a good person and is a villain. In the case of God of war it's somewhat gray but plot still doesnt try to justify everything the charater does. It even admits that what he did was wrong in the sequels. But to me arguing that Sterling is somehow a villain protagonist is just ridiculous to me. I can agree that he's not a hero but he never does anything to make him a villain either. When he does something wrong he gets punished for it and shows remorse. With how much Still is ignoring and context and information for the sake of his argument, I'd say he's either trolling or simply just arguing in bad faith because he prefers villain protagonists and corruption games.



To me it's not even about the semantics. Sterling is not a villain. I don't mean he's not an antagonist I mean he's not a villain. Period. Hunter is an irredeemable villain and all evidence points to the idea that Drew is helping Hunter which also makes them a villain. They are both antagonist and villains. It's that simple. Not being a hero doesnt mean you suddenly become a villain.

 

[Stil996]

You are missing the point.
I am getting tired but I will tell you what this is all about: all this charade is happening because we are using the word "Villain" referring to Hunter and Drew, instead of "Antagonist".
This is not a Court of Law where every single word, and the way you use it, matters; is a forum where we are talking about a fucking porn game.
There is absolutely no need to correct every single word used nor the perception we have about the characters in the game.

try to get the facts right, but while we are educating you about words, look up "hyperbole".

I Argued

• Against the use of Villain for Drew because she is an unknown
• Against taking Hunters word as Gospel
• Against using Protagonist as a synonym of "Hero", "Good"

 

[krollmeister]

well this game doesn't have routes. You can slightly choose what person to visit first, but they all must be visited to move to the next chapter and no choices in those visits to set you in a different path. So pretty kinetic.

true, however i can still get the girls/events im not interested in out of the way first so i dont mind it, plus the game is still fun regardless