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Stil996

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You argued that


A) Drew isn't a villain because they havent dne anything to prove otherwise, depsite multiple events in this chapter and dialouge suggesting otherwise.
Bullishit. I don't know or care whether she is a villain (I'll learn that as the story develops), I said she is an UNKNOWN, (suggesting isn't proving)
And yeah I know some of you will claim her fucking "our" girls makes her so, I disagree.
B) that Hunter is lying which doesn't make anysense because He was the one who invited Drew. That Drew essentially just disappeared off the face of the earth, and hasnt had contact with the rest of the family minus Hunter for at least 15 years. It would actually make more sense to argue that Drew is lying to Hunter than to suggest that Hunter is lying to Sterling. The only other suggestion is that Drew just decided out of the flew to visit Ophelia after not speaking to them in years and somehow Hunter over a week before anyone else in the family did. And still doesn't explain why Drew tried to seperate sterling from everyone
Hunter is the Bad Guy do we agree on this??
  1. Therefore anything he says is suspect, (The best Lies have elements of the truth)
  2. Him believing he knows Drew motives doesn't make it so (I have no reason to believe yet Drew is Hunters Puppet)
I'm not trying to prove anything I am merely arguing against assumptions, particularly assumptions based on in game conversations with the antagonist.

C) and C that Sterling is a villain because he takes advantage of women while drugged which has never been the case in any of the scenes. And that he's not "rescuing them" even though the game explains early on why he can't just expose Hunter and Kick him out. If it was possible Sterling would have kicked him out in the first chapter. He was completely repulsed at the idea of getting intimate with anyone of them at the start. The best he can do is sabotage hunter, which is the entire reason why Drew is here, because Hunter asked for help.
I will concede "Villain" may be a poor choice of words to describe Sterling (there is nothing to establish his level of awarness in this regard), I'd say he is a pussy, a little bitch, a coward, he is no way shape or form a "Hero".
(and Yeah, I know he needs to be like this for a porn game to happen)

BTW, I love how limited your imagination is , "nothing he could do?" .... lmao, like a good person wouldn't be willing to go to prison for killing the guy who was going to rape and enslave his loved ones.

No matter what you have to outright ignore information to try to make your point
My point was never that complicated and didn't need to ignore anything to make it.
 

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... Don't forget that even Sterling is under the effect of the many drugs Hunter is putting in the food and in the vents. ....
You finally made a good point, that hadn't occurred to me.

Nice to see you not using hyperbole this time :)
 

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Bullishit. I don't know or care whether she is a villain (I'll learn that as the story develops), I said she is an UNKNOWN, (suggesting isn't proving)
And yeah I know some of you will claim her fucking "our" girls makes her so, I disagree.

Hunter is the Bad Guy do we agree on this??
  1. Therefore anything he says is suspect, (The best Lies have elements of the truth)
  2. Him believing he knows Drew motives doesn't make it so (I have no reason to believe yet Drew is Hunters Puppet)
I'm not trying to prove anything I am merely arguing against assumptions, particularly assumptions based on in game conversations with the antagonist.


I will concede "Villain" may be a poor choice of words to describe Sterling (there is nothing to establish his level of awarness in this regard), I'd say he is a pussy, a little bitch, a coward, he is no way shape or form a "Hero".
(and Yeah, I know he needs to be like this for a porn game to happen)

BTW, I love how limited your imagination is , "nothing he could do?" .... lmao, like a good person wouldn't be willing to go to prison for killing the guy who was going to rape and enslave his loved ones.


My point was never that complicated and didn't need to ignore anything to make it.
just to make sure, you ignore all the dialog in the bad end to make your point that "drew is unknown" right? if so than we really can't change your mind.


Tiff: "don't mention him!"
Drew: "How can I not? I just stole his beloved"
and then the bad end robot says "it seems Tiff found love with someone else"


But that still leaves her in the unknown somehow?
 

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D/l the PC version of Ch 10, unzip it and then just merge the game folder into the game folder of the earlier full version (1-9).
Take care when doing this. It's a different Ren'Py version. Might cause problems. I advise to make a duplicate of the full game first.
 

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just to make sure, you ignore all the dialog in the bad end to make your point that "drew is unknown" right? if so than we really can't change your mind.


Tiff: "don't mention him!"
Drew: "How can I not? I just stole his beloved"
and then the bad end robot says "it seems Tiff found love with someone else"


But that still leaves her in the unknown somehow?
thats a good point, why didn't you offer it sooner instead of all these facepalms?
 
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thats a good point, why didn't you offer it sooner instead of all these facepalms?
I did....

did you miss the ntr scene she had in this episode, she already went full "Hunter" mod. She just play it a lot more "I'm a girl, and as girls we shouldn't be afraid of each other" and that's how she got her target this episode.

And 100% our futa loving LI is going to fall for her in a future episode no matter how much she know it's a bad idea, we know she can't control herself.
Tiff.

Drew said something along the lines of "I love seeing her face as she go crazy on my cock, and knowing that the mc is in love with her"
yeah, no shit. I was replying to a person who thought she wasn't a villain, and she clearly is. Whether for a short time or until the end of the game I don't know, but she will work against the mc until she is gone.
This \/\/\/

she revel in the idea of stealing your LI's
 
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I did....
That didn't have the quote, I assumed it was more conjecture like the majority of posts here.

PS am I the only one who has difficultly seeing those inline spoilers?, they really fade into the black background my screen, I feel like I am missing half of them
 

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That didn't have the quote, I assumed it was more conjecture like the majority of posts here.

PS am I the only one who has difficultly seeing those inline spoilers?, they really fade into the black ground my screen, I feel like I am missing half of them
you are the one saying she is not a villain, while that scene is right there. You can't claim "didn't have the quote" I saw the scene, and just like I said she act all nice to lure them in while Hunter act rough and just take them(for the most part).

If anything she is far more dangerous, because she give a false sense of security to all the women, which is what the scenes where she push Sterling away to stay alone with the girls implies and then we get to the bad end which shows where it leads.

While Hunter is the "ugly bastard" she is the "wolf in sheep clothing"
 

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you are the one saying she is not a villain, while that scene is right there. You can't claim "didn't have the quote" I saw the scene, and just like I said she act all nice to lure them in while Hunter act rough and just take them(for the most part). If anything she is far more dangerous, because she give a false sense of security to all the women, which is what the scenes where she push Sterling away to stay alone with the girls implies and then we get to the bed end which shows where it leads
Don't put words in my mouth, I always said Unknown, I try to avoid predicting character development, I try to let the story unfold as it unfolds.
I always saw her as someone who wants to fuck, rather than someone with outright malicious motives.
Women (beautiful people in general) are always more dangerous, people tend to less on guard around them. I still don't see any reason to believe she is Hunters puppet though (Hunter might think she is though).

We disagree on what is a Bad End... BTW :p
 

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you are the one saying she is not a villain, while that scene is right there. You can't claim "didn't have the quote" I saw the scene, and just like I said she act all nice to lure them in while Hunter act rough and just take them(for the most part).

If anything she is far more dangerous, because she give a false sense of security to all the women, which is what the scenes where she push Sterling away to stay alone with the girls implies and then we get to the bad end which shows where it leads.

While Hunter is the "ugly bastard" she is the "wolf in sheep clothing"
Also Ophelia did say that her and drew was not that tight indicates that she doesnt trust drew either and hopefully sterling can find an ally in Ophelia seeing she may know about what happened to landlord
 

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Don't put words in my mouth, I always said Unknown, I try to avoid predicting character development, I try to let the story unfold as it unfolds.
I always saw her as someone who wants to fuck, rather than someone with outright malicious motives.
Women (beautiful people in general) are always more dangerous, people tend to less on guard around them. I still don't see any reason to believe she is Hunters puppet though (Hunter might think she is though).

We disagree on what is a Bad End... BTW :p
we disagree on what is a bad end? you mean the one where the robot said "you've reach a bad end" for someone who doesn't like to "predict character development" you sure ignore what the game tells you. This is a bad end for the game, if you can still enjoy it doesn't make not a bad end for the game.

I never once said I dislike the bad ends or not looking forward to them(I enjoy Hunter's content), and here I take a note from you
Don't put words in my mouth
 
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we disagree on what is a bad end? you mean the one where the robot said "you've reach a bad end" for someone who doesn't like to "predict character development" you sure ignore what the game tells you. This is a bad end for the game, if you can still enjoy it doesn't make not a bad end for the game.

I never once said I dislike the bad ends or not looking forward to them(I enjoy Hunter's content), and here I take a note from you
thats checkmate now lets continue discussing facts about this great game:lepew:
 
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