Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]
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Hunter literally says it himself and we have mutiple evidence to support it as well. If your argument is somehow that all the evidence is wrong without ever going to put an effort to explain why it's wrong than your argument is a bad argument.
Again, there is literally no reason at all to lie. If your argument is that a character is lying then you need to provide a good reason and evidence that they are lying. Saying "Hunter can't be trusted" is not a good argument when even Drew says that Hunter is the one who invited them. As I said earlier it would actually make more sense to suggest that Drew is lying to hunter than the idea that Hunter is lying to Sterling.
For what? Did you miss the part where they say that Ophelia would be homeless without Hunter? That the family is in massive debt and Hunter is the one who is bothering to pay it all off? That Sterling is 19 and barely finished High school?
"He should kill the guy" Even that makes no sense. Why bother killing Hunter if you could just get hunter arrested instead? I'm sorry youwant some alpha male protagonist who treats people like shit and rapes all the women but Sterlings not a pussy for not killing a person. I dont even know why I bother dealing with what is either an obvious troll, or a person who was never attempting to arguing in good faith to begin with.
This conversation is already dead #14,026, amazing 4 people pushing this argument forward with Conjecture, Hyperbole, Insults and Slander, when it could have been ended at the start with one quote.
Can't wait for Ophelia what if's. Hunter is absolutely right her body is a sex machine
Yes and I have a job and life and very reasonably can not be expected to sit at a public forum every hour of the day. It's not like I decided to continue days later/ you might not care about if but it if I got a reply I'm going to choose to reply. Even reading the rest of the conversation I can not be convinced you aren't arent a troll
Think what you like. I'm no longer interested in trying to convince you of anything.
But I'll leave you with the thought, you could have easily have presented the same quote Heavy Sleeper did and brought this to a close.
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Weird, if she doesn't planning on it why is it mentioned though? kind of unclear but whatever
- Feb 23, 2018
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Wow... y'all really kept arguing about this for like 6 or 7 pages worth of forum while I was gone ... okay.
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Yet when I searched for it only Heavy Sleeper came up as quoting it, the only other examples I could find where couched in conjecture.
- May 10, 2020
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I'm sorry not everybody has time to play the game again and give you quotes for everything... it's not like we played the game and remember what was said.... everybody was telling you how bad Drew was but you act like we never played the game nor read any of the dialog leading up to her arrival.
The only one who doesn't have any proof supporting their theory or view of the game is you, where did Drew lied either to Hunter or Hunter lied about getting Drew?(even though we saw a in game flashback where Drew was working with Hunter before her sex change).
Give me a quote or something that support your theory, I'm open to discussion but you've shown nothing, while we give you examples from the game to show you how we got to our points.
And I'm not going to go through the whole game just to give you quote about how many time Hunter was telling the truth compare to how many time he lied, but please if you want to keep saying Hunter is lying to Sterling about his plan, give me quotes and pictures... or are you just assuming he is lying? hell, I'll take a quote of Drew working in anyway against Hunter even, it will make me believe your point more but give me something that support your theory
Truth has been spoken! Your logic is undeniable, truly. I couldn't have said it better
Why are you resurrecting a dead conversation,
My intent never to push a theory, My argument was about challenging assumptions, you presented a good response to the challenge "Drew is an Unknown" with the quote you offered.
HypnoSoul offered another when he said the MC might be under the effect of Hunters Drugs too (this is called a reasonable theory, you don't need quotes for that).
The thing that provoked my challenge was what I saw as a large volume of conjecture being presented as fact, clearly I was wrong about some parts of that. But that's what debate is for, highlighting flaws in our beliefs, and learning things you never saw before.
PS: Seriously? Who the fuck needs proof to doubt the word of the games established "Bad Guy"
- May 10, 2020
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You want to us to not make assumptions, ok. give us reason to see otherwise, you can't just say "maybe the hulk only painted his body green and hide inside a giant suite" and expect people to just say "oh.. you might be right. I should be better then just assume what I'm seeing is not as I'm seeing it" people want you to bring something to counter what they are saying for any good argument to be made, but all you did is say that what we said was conjecture while providing zero in game reasons as to why we shouldn't assume that or just take it as fact.
That's why I keep bringing it up, because you didn't give as any reason to doubt our view of the game. "don't believe your lying eyes" comes to mind as to what your argument amounted to. You didn't make good argument based on facts, but pure assumptions, which as how you tried to spin as what our argument as been this whole time.