Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Heavy Sleeper]

Been reading some of these posts... I really hope that this isn't the end of Power Vacuum. This is one of the best games around, and it would be a shame for it to be cancelled due to Patreon staff becoming a bunch of prudes. If they are doing this to WWG, just imagine what would happen if they suddenly target other game devs!

so what you are saying is you haven't read the last few post where someone explained how "fan" made patch fix the game?


Guess what? WWG isn't the first or the last to be affect by patreon, if anything he lasted longer then most devs until the anti ntr crowd did their usual thing and tried to harass a dev livelihood for simply making porn.

 

[Fuxxzz]

I get it you don't have to be condescending.
I'm just wondering where the what ifs and wallpapers with WINK WINK content will be posted since they're probably not allowed on Patreon. Will they be posted directly here? Will they be dialogue only with a WINK WINK patch? Will the type of wallpapers/what if change to accommodate the changes? Will they stop being produced altogether?

Why would What Ifs and wallpapers be posted here when they are rewards for his subscribers?

 

[Glasskull]

so what you are saying is you haven't read the last few post where someone explained how "fan" made patch fix the game?


Guess what? WWG isn't the first or the last to be affect by patreon, if anything he lasted longer then most devs until the ani ntr crowd did their usual thing and tried to harass a dev livelihood for simply making porn.

Ooooh, you mean you aren't supposed to snitch on a dev just because they don't cater to your fetishes and refuse to remove ones you don't like? Goddamn, I've had this whole thing wrong.

 

[Teddybear91]

so what you are saying is you haven't read the last few post where someone explained how "fan" made patch fix the game?


Guess what? WWG isn't the first or the last to be affect by patreon, if anything he lasted longer then most devs until the anti ntr crowd did their usual thing and tried to harass a dev livelihood for simply making porn.

I read the posts about the fan patches. I'm just saying that it would be a shame for WWG to decide to cancel his project

 

[Guyin Cognito]

I read the posts about the fan patches. I'm just saying that it would be a shame for WWG to decide to cancel his project

The project won't die. I'd be shocked. I think WWG is pretty determined on that.
Wallpapers might not be able to include sex because of the incest, but he could still do sexy pictures of the characters.
Private rewuests might be able to be requested and sent directly some other way that Patreon can't filter (not sure, but seems there must be some way).
What If's can be patched just as easily as the main game.
Depending on exactly how the content gets butchered, he would just need his loyal Patreon followers to realize they need to understand how to get the patch on their own, since he can't exactly point them directly to it.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

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Why would What Ifs and wallpapers be posted here when they are rewards for his subscribers?

For the same reason the game itself is posted here, or did you think the game was intended to be free for everyone?

 

[Guyin Cognito]

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For the same reason the game itself is posted here, or did you think the game was intended to be free for everyone?

In the course of the conversation, I think they mean, how could someone continue to earn revenue by offering wallpapers on Patreon if the wallpapers are exclusively posted on a pirate site and not given directly to subscribers on Patreon. That I think is a fair question. He obviously can't post a link on Patreon saying, "here's a link to the pirate site that hosts all my Patreon TOS violating content." He can't really charge people for content that's not provided through the site they pay him on. Even if he could somehow communicate such a plan and people accepted it, Patreon would notice something fishy was going on if people were paying for alleged content that never showed up in any Patreon posts.

I do think it's possible he could do custom renders privately, but the wallpapers that everyone at a given tier are supposed to get would be an issue. I think for that, he just has to limit them to not containing any incestuous sex. Nudie pictures only, basically.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

In the course of the conversation, I think they mean, how could someone continue to earn revenue by offering wallpapers on Patreon if the wallpapers are exclusively posted on a pirate site and not given directly to subscribers on Patreon.

... I definitely wasn't following the entire discussion. Now I'm glad I didn't go with the snarkier response I originally planned!

I do think it's possible he could do custom renders privately, but the wallpapers that everyone at a given tier are supposed to get would be an issue. I think for that, he just has to limit them to not containing any incestuous sex. Nudie pictures only, basically.

This is slightly disappointing when several of the earlier wallpapers were sex scenes, but alas, plenty of sex scenes in the game itself I suppose. At least we should see more creative wallpapers then.

 

[ramu098]

hey any new teaser??

 

[FenKing]

this may be stupid, but cant the dev start to slowly ditch Patreon, and use ... idk, OF, or start his own website (which may be costly to begin with, but should help long run)? just throwing some ideas, not sure if they are any good.

 

[AcerbusLux]

And you can count on dedicated fans to fix patreon's BS.

 

[jmcronshaw]

this may be stupid, but cant the dev start to slowly ditch Patreon, and use ... idk, OF, or start his own website (which may be costly to begin with, but should help long run)? just throwing some ideas, not sure if they are any good.

this is always suggested when something like this happens, but unfortunately i think the issue is that Patreon is the most universally usable/available to potential subscribers. As a result I think devs generally try to comply with Patreon if possible, unless their content is so inextricably against the ToS that they have no other choice but to uses something like Subscribestar

 

[BaeScout83]

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[Deleted member 1961891]

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[crabshank]

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[Fuxxzz]

I hope he releases it this week

 

[Scipio Publio 9]

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[Fayn Arawn]

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Anyway, on the topic of What If 7...

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As I said in my post when I announced my break from What Ifs?, I'd be changing how the system works. Starting in July:

1. What Ifs? will occur over a two month period.
2. The first month will involve five days of patrons making suggestions(the 1st to the 5th of the first month).
3. Followed by five days of voting on those suggestions(the 6th to the 11th of the first month).
4. On the 11th, a winner will be declared and it will be released by the end of the second month.

If WWG keeps to this schedule then we still have up to a week left.

 

[maynardkeynes65]

Heys guys! Found a typo error, maybe someone can tell the Dev if both have some spare time, it's from the Eric event.

 

[dartred]

I'll pass it on.