I downloaded what if 7 and is it really supposed to end when he takes the panties or did i do something wrong
Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]
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None of these girls are setup for trust and love. They become just as much sluts for Sterling as they do for any other male character. The only difference is how they get to that point. Hunter uses manipulation and drugs, Sterling uses time and commitment. That's the dynamic of the entire story. It's not really meant to be a race between two parties to win over the women. It's always been around conquering them in your own way while preventing the other from winning.
I litteraly cant get further then when he hides under the bed. I downloaded the patch and put it inside the folder with the name "game". Something is wrong here. I feel dumb xD
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Thank you bro, its relieving to see that theres someone who can engage in a conversation here simply of whats being said and without trying to jump to conclusions.First, I acknowledge you pointing out that fiction and reality are different things (especially where porn and/or videogames are concerned), and I won't assume your perspective on real people is the same as your perspective on the girls in the game. I'm glad you brought that up. It's always good to remember. Sorry if that comparison seemed a bit too cranky. There's just not a lot else to use as a basis of comparison. Also, it's nice to have more involved discussion than "NTR sucks!" "No, you suck!"
I couldn't remember the details of all the Bad Ends over the course of the game, so I just went and re-watched the Hunter scene for Ch.10 to use as an example. We don't know exactly how much influence the drugs in the food and wherever else may be influencing them or at what pace that may have built up, only that it is an effect which should benefit Hunter and Sterling equally. Even Sterling himself admitted that that is a concern to him, so, no denying that is a factor.
At this point, Sterling has already been building these relationships for some time, where as Hunter is still basically at zero points. Meanwhile, the effects of the drugs have ramped up in the last couple of updates.
Unfortunately, even in real life, there is some amount of questionable risk involved with having sex when people have been drinking. Assuming a relationship already exists or there is at least an agreed upon expectation of sex, most people wouldn't take issue with doing some drinking before hand. However, the same amount of alcohol could be exploited by someone trying to seduce a person would might otherwise not have sex. That's an awkward issue that creates arguments that go way beyond our debating a porn game.
My point is, Sterling having sex with the girls while they're under the influence of these drugs (or additional alcohol) is different from Hunter taking advantage of the drugs, due to the time already put in to the relationships. It's an uncertain factor, but Sterling is trying to be aware of that, typically stops when told to stop, and even tries to stop the girls if they go after him when he feels things are moving too quickly. He may try to make his case to them, but he ultimately waits until he feels confident that they are making the decision themselves. By comparison, Hunter will fast-talk, nag, manipulate, grope, and do whatever is necessary to push them into sex when given the opportunity.
SPOILERS AND GRAPHIC NTR DISCUSSION FROM CHAPTER 10 AHEAD
In the example of Hunter's Bad End in Ch.10, by the time Hunter gets there, Ophelia and Aliza are excitedly anticipating sex with Sterling and have already been drinking wine (which in the canon path is implied to have been provided secretly by Hunter and has further drugs in it).
He starts by garnering sympathy faking an injury, draws attention to his scars, and tricks Ophelia into "examining" his penis and balls hands-on and up-close, even encouraging her to "take a deep breath" (this may or may not align with the idea from What If 6 that he puts some kind of aphrodisiac musk scent on himself). He then brings up the fact that she has already crossed some incest lines with Sterling, which both nukes that hurdle using Sterling's efforts and brings up the topic of sex while she's already holding his penis. From there, he continues to badger and manipulate her, refusing to take no for an answer, until he's able to get as far as taunting her by rubbing his penis on her vagina while preying on her pre-aroused state.
These are all things that Sterling would never do or plan. This is why Hunter can get them faster than Sterling, and while Sterling does benefit from the tainted wine in the canon path, he isn't even aware of where they got it until afterward, so he can't really be blamed for that.
and I agree with you this discussion is far more interesting when you get into the details.
I guess the conclusion is that that's the purpose of the characters overall, to provide sex.
and even if Sterling was the one manipulating and Hunter was the one caring the outcome would be the same because the LIs just wont have it programmed in them to "push that mf off and slap the shit out of him" or "call the police" cause the outcome has to be sex
But i dont know why it feels like it all builds up to something bigger in the main storyline, like having the whole cast team against Hunter to expose him and throw him out for good and Sterling being the man of the house but as of now itll be all speculations so all is left is to just wait and see how this all unfolds.
I absolutely fuckin had to bro.
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if you started the game first and put the patch in after, you need to start a from the beginning. You can't run a save as that run would be locked into the "to be continued" run.
- May 2, 2018
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Well, this is one of the reason why i like Drew. There is potential, that she can be a true rival to the MC. From what i have seen in Chapter 10, the girls truly like her. It seems like she is smart, has a natural charm and can easily communicate with the girls. I mean, she was helping Catherine to find a part time job, Brenna could talk about fashion stuff with her, and she did understand Tiff's situation with Peyton.
Of course these are not selfless acts. She actively tries to undermine the MC's capabilities in the girl's eyes. But let's be real, the girls could't really rely on the MC in these topic.
Moreover, in her scene with Tiff she impersonates a masseur. But if my memory serves right, other than that there was no other manipulation. She legitimately seduced Tiff, no drugs or anything. And i think Tiff genuinely liked Drew and the sex.
So, i think with Drew we can get over the drugs and have a true competition for the girls. If i am right the MC has to step up his game.
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For teasers check this link.
https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-what-if-vol-7-ntr-what-why-games.36240/post-8606101
Update 10 took about 6 months and came out in June, so we might get one hell of a Christmas present this year.
But release date of Chapter 11 isn't set of course. Might also be next year.
- May 7, 2021
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Any guidance would be appreciated. Game starts and runs fine as a test, but when I paste / drop the patch.rpy into contents/resources/autorun/game - game won't load and gives me the scripting errors attached.
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I've read your posts and I don't have time to point out everything you've missed, but you lead off with this and it's egregious. Literally the first thing Lucia does is notice that "something stinky" is going on and rejects Hunter.
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Can only repeat that I love the Devs work, no bullshit, just nice hard Story with Great Animation with fantastic Ntr to go with it. Thanks Dev
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Lucia is an exception to the rule, and that exactly proves my point while fixing my statement.
as of ch.10 no LI except Lucia has the capacity to outright reject Hunter pursuit or to suspect that something is completely off in the house since Hunter moved in.
if sterling wasnt aware of the schemes than nobody would (even Lucia) and everyone will get mad of pleasure without having any second thoughts just shut their brains off and run with it when it comes to the antagonist.
I understand it fits the bad ends and the What If. but I refuse to believe that you dont see how it makes your perfectly built characters' personalities fall flat in the end.
I would love to know what I missed, and discuss examples from the narrative that contradicts my points but both of us dont have any time for that.
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Lucia can't be the exception that proves the rule when she's 25% of your sample size. You can't say a coin always lands heads but when it lands tails it's the exception that proves the rule.
And all of the characters have been suspicious that something is completely off in the house since Hunter has moved in. Ophelia, Brenna, and Catherine have all questioned their reality. Some big examples:
-Ophelia's theories on what is controlling everyone's behavior, even going as far as positing that the house may be haunted.
-Brenna thought she was losing her mind after she thought she knocked Sterling's tooth out and still doesn't trust him completely.
-Catherine almost had a mental breakdown when she thought she knocked Sterling's eye out.
I'm not sure I understand why everyone loses their mind, you don't want to watch someone else getting the girls then don't play those parts (like me) it seems pretty simple. And let's all remember at the end of the day it's just a game (a very good game but still just a game), civil discourse is all well & good & should be encouraged but it's nothing to work ourselves into a frenzy that stresses out the dev & each other.