Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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Sterling is Better

We all know captain had fucked Tony in the civil wars

 

[MAGO-DAG]

THE NATTY HARD WORKING WOMANIZER VS THE JUICED FREELOADING INBREEDER
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Which side are you on?

It's too early to draw such conclusions. Especially knowing that Sterling is currently focused on protecting his family against Hunter and Drew, will he be a workaholic or a worker? We have already seen what David himself faced when he left the girls alone with Hunter or Drew, do you want a repeat of the father’s fate for MC?

Mc's mission has just begun, some secrets have been revealed, Cat is also already pregnant, Brenna has already opened a porn business, Ophelia has started working in the kitchen cooking and Sterling is sure that over time he will begin to work on something to provide for his family.

and the picture you posted, Sterling didn’t seem to want marks smeared on him. Where was Kevin all this time? collected incriminating evidence for jerking off and did not even pay full attention to Aliza... so we draw conclusions early on about Sterling, knowing what he went through against his grandfather and his machinations that he himself faced

I'm not saying Sterling is better than Kevin or Kevin is better than Sterling. Both have many drawbacks. Remember that Kevin even blackmailed Ophelia, if Sterling had not pulled him out of the shell he was sitting in, it is quite possible that he would have continued to do all sorts of things because of his hacker knowledge. In the future, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Kevin turned to Hunter out of envy, such an outcome is also quite possible

 

[Jerk-man]

It's too early to draw such conclusions. Especially knowing that Sterling is currently focused on protecting his family against Hunter and Drew, will he be a workaholic or a worker? We have already seen what David himself faced when he left the girls alone with Hunter or Drew, do you want a repeat of the father’s fate for MC?

Mc's mission has just begun, some secrets have been revealed, Cat is also already pregnant, Brenna has already opened a porn business, Ophelia has started working in the kitchen cooking and Sterling is sure that over time he will begin to work on something to provide for his family.

and the picture you posted, Sterling didn’t seem to want marks smeared on him. Where was Kevin all this time? collected incriminating evidence for jerking off and did not even pay full attention to Aliza... so we draw conclusions early on about Sterling, knowing what he went through against his grandfather and his machinations that he himself faced

I'm not saying Sterling is better than Kevin or Kevin is better than Sterling. Both have many drawbacks. Remember that Kevin even blackmailed Ophelia, if Sterling had not pulled him out of the shell he was sitting in, it is quite possible that he would have continued to do all sorts of things because of his hacker knowledge. In the future, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Kevin turned to Hunter out of envy, such an outcome is also quite possible

Now that I read your thoughts, in some ways you are right, purely theoretically, if Sterling had allowed to follow Hunter’s advice and not help the family but would just share women, I’m already thinking how Kevin’s story would have continued, I think he would still be sitting on the chair and jerking off if Hunter corrupts all the women.

Also, Hunter, having learned that Kevin was blackmailing Ophelia or supposedly watched the incident, Hunter could drag Kevin into his depraved world and help his Darkweb channel knowing his hacking knowledge. This is roughly how the story would end, but some people don’t understand this yet and hope that Kevin could be better than Sterling, but they missing point of some things

 

[Jakers15@]

Does anyone have an organization chart or mental map of the characters and their respective kinship relationships? There are so many characters that I no longer know who is who's uncle, who is who's brother, etc.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Now that I read your thoughts, in some ways you are right, purely theoretically, if Sterling had allowed to follow Hunter’s advice and not help the family but would just share women, I’m already thinking how Kevin’s story would have continued, I think he would still be sitting on the chair and jerking off if Hunter corrupts all the women.

Also, Hunter, having learned that Kevin was blackmailing Ophelia or supposedly watched the incident, Hunter could drag Kevin into his depraved world and help his Darkweb channel knowing his hacking knowledge. This is roughly how the story would end, but some people don’t understand this yet and hope that Kevin could be better than Sterling, but they missing point of some things

I think it's better to end this topic here. I didn't really mean to offend anyone or make them hate Kevin, and everyone has the right to see "What Would Happen Next." and express your ideas for the ending.

As you said, if Sterling hadn’t shown up on the doorstep, none of this would have happened, and even Kevin wouldn’t have gotten anything, part of all of this is due to MC and Hunter, especially their confrontation. just consider that Hunter turned the whole family into his whores, then Drew came back and joined too, and much more, and the end of the fairy tale. But the whole story began with Sterling, and it will end with him.

Therefore, no one can replace part of the confrontation that MC and Hunter had

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Does anyone have an organization chart or mental map of the characters and their respective kinship relationships? There are so many characters that I no longer know who is who's uncle, who is who's brother, etc.

Here is a simple one that GeppettoPossum made.

Here is another one that I made that includes more characters. It's a bit outdated.

 

[DD69-1]

Sterling is an idiot, he lacks the qualities of a MC, he's more of a placeholder. How he has been treated by the dev and the people who play the game shows it.

 

[SuddenReal]

he lacks the qualities of a MC

Then what, pray tell, are the qualities of a MC?

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Sterling is an idiot, he lacks the qualities of a MC

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

 

[Snugglepuff]

Sterling is an idiot, he lacks the qualities of a MC, he's more of a placeholder. How he has been treated by the dev and the people who play the game shows it.

Then what, pray tell, are the qualities of a MC?

Being the audience's surrogate for the story as the protagonist, and all events impact primarily him without any real agency in those events, as opposed making the decisions that drive the story forward... So yeah, Sterling has literally all the required qualities of being a Main Character, and is therefor this game's Main Character.

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

Maybe he's always been wanting Chad Chaddington III, heir to the Chaddington Pants fortune and "Effortless Slayer of all pussy" to be his surrogate.
Y'know, a Gary Stu...

 

[MiltonPowers]

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

I think the most important quality of an MC is the ability to get an erection and fuck girls. Oh Wait..... NVM

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Maybe he's always been wanting Chad Chaddington III, heir to the Chaddington Pants fortune and "Effortless Slayer of all pussy" to be his surrogate.
Y'know, a Gary Stu...

I think the most important quality of an MC is the ability to get an erection and fuck girls. Oh Wait..... NVM

Ahah, I don’t even know what Mc they are waiting for, but Sterling, at his young age, fucking all women's is already progress... or is this not considered quality?

During a threesome, he even managed to get his erection up within a couple of minutes after hard sex, isn’t that quality?

 

[DD69-1]

Then what, pray tell, are the qualities of a MC?

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

Being the audience's surrogate for the story as the protagonist, and all events impact primarily him without any real agency in those events, as opposed making the decisions that drive the story forward... So yeah, Sterling has literally all the required qualities of being a Main Character, and is therefor this game's Main Character.

Maybe he's always been wanting Chad Chaddington III, heir to the Chaddington Pants fortune and "Effortless Slayer of all pussy" to be his surrogate.
Y'know, a Gary Stu...

Just not a pushover character and one who can stand his ground and is also assertive and mostly pragmatic with his decision making, just pounding pussy doesn't make a good MC... when I wrote he (Sterling) is stupid it didn't mean that I wanted an MC to be a chad or Alpha male.

Will have to wait and see if the next game has an MC like that

 

[Jerk/jerk]

So can someone please explain why all the hate to Sterling? I mean he is trying to keep the household from getting corrupted by Hunter, even if he is pretty passive and most of it is done for laughs anyway. You can even justify the MC's insane sax drive and willingness to fuck anything that moves because of the drugs and stuff Hunter is slipping everywhere. So why the hate?

 

[panzermaster]

So can someone please explain why all the hate to Sterling? I mean he is trying to keep the household from getting corrupted by Hunter, even if he is pretty passive and most of it is done for laughs anyway. You can even justify the MC's insane sax drive and willingness to fuck anything that moves because of the drugs and stuff Hunter is slipping everywhere. So why the hate?

Personally I don't hate him, my headcanon was just a way to improve the NTR ending of Kevin of Chapter 12. As I found it was lacking in the NTR aspects. Me and Fayn Arry suggest improvments in order to make it better. That was it.

But no I don't believe that Sterling is a terrible person considering the situation and the "genre" of the story.

 

[Snugglepuff]

]when I wrote he (Sterling) is stupid it didn't mean that I wanted an MC to be a chad or Alpha male.

You're basically describing an Alpha Male in your first sentence though.

Just not a pushover character and one who can stand his ground and is also assertive and mostly pragmatic with his decision making, just pounding pussy doesn't make a good MC...

This is literally basic Alpha Male characteristics here.

Repeating your same complaint about Sterling as a character isn't going to change him though...

 

[Fayn Arawn]

To be fair, Sterling does make some dumb decisions, but that's exactly what makes him a good main character, because Power Vacuum is a comedy. If Sterling was smarter and more in control then the story would be more predictable and less humorous. His bumbling leads to entertaining situations that wouldn't happen otherwise.

 

[Snugglepuff]

To be fair, Sterling does make some dumb decisions, but that's exactly what makes him a good main character, because Power Vacuum is a comedy. If Sterling was smarter and more in control then the story would be more predictable and less humorous. His bumbling leads to entertaining situations that wouldn't happen otherwise.

Bumbling... Now I can't help but imagine this as a porno Carry On movie!

 

[DD69-1]

You're basically describing an Alpha Male in your first sentence though.

This is literally basic Alpha Male characteristics here.

Repeating your same complaint about Sterling as a character isn't going to change him though...

I'm not sure what is Alpha male in here with the traits that I had mentioned, I haven't written dominant, flexes his strength / superiority towards others, Alpha's don't speak like Sterling as well, they finish what they have to say in a couple of lines, instead of making it in a paragraph.

I know that won't change Sterling but since I was asked what qualities that I would like in an MC by suddenreal was just answering those, if you want to grab only a couple of things which I've written and mask them as alpha traits there's nothing I can do about it.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I'm not sure what is Alpha male in here with the traits that I had mentioned

You don't know what the traits associated with Alpha Males are, period.

flexes his strength / superiority towards others

That's not Alpha Male.
That's a modern stereotype derived from the stereotype college jock, which is basically a Beta Male trying to masquerade as an Alpha.

Alpha's don't speak like Sterling as well, they finish what they have to say in a couple of lines, instead of making it in a paragraph.

I didn't say Sterling was an Alpha Male, so comparing him to something you don't actually understand is rather silly.

I know that won't change Sterling but since I was asked what qualities that I would like in an MC by suddenreal was just answering those, if you want to grab only a couple of things which I've written and mask them as alpha traits there's nothing I can do about it.

Your repeated complaints about Sterling's character has nothing to do with what anyone else said.
It's you saying the same things over, and over. This isn't the first time you said those things about Sterling, about how "he's not a MC" when you clearly don't understand what makes a MC, to the point that you then move the goalposts to what you think makes a MC... Which still is not what a MC is.