Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Fayn Arawn]

Does anyone have an organization chart or mental map of the characters and their respective kinship relationships? There are so many characters that I no longer know who is who's uncle, who is who's brother, etc.

Here is a simple one that GeppettoPossum made.

Here is another one that I made that includes more characters. It's a bit outdated.

 

[DD69-1]

Sterling is an idiot, he lacks the qualities of a MC, he's more of a placeholder. How he has been treated by the dev and the people who play the game shows it.

 

[SuddenReal]

he lacks the qualities of a MC

Then what, pray tell, are the qualities of a MC?

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Sterling is an idiot, he lacks the qualities of a MC

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

 

[Snugglepuff]

Sterling is an idiot, he lacks the qualities of a MC, he's more of a placeholder. How he has been treated by the dev and the people who play the game shows it.

Then what, pray tell, are the qualities of a MC?

Being the audience's surrogate for the story as the protagonist, and all events impact primarily him without any real agency in those events, as opposed making the decisions that drive the story forward... So yeah, Sterling has literally all the required qualities of being a Main Character, and is therefor this game's Main Character.

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

Maybe he's always been wanting Chad Chaddington III, heir to the Chaddington Pants fortune and "Effortless Slayer of all pussy" to be his surrogate.
Y'know, a Gary Stu...

 

[MiltonPowers]

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

I think the most important quality of an MC is the ability to get an erection and fuck girls. Oh Wait..... NVM

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Maybe he's always been wanting Chad Chaddington III, heir to the Chaddington Pants fortune and "Effortless Slayer of all pussy" to be his surrogate.
Y'know, a Gary Stu...

I think the most important quality of an MC is the ability to get an erection and fuck girls. Oh Wait..... NVM

Ahah, I don’t even know what Mc they are waiting for, but Sterling, at his young age, fucking all women's is already progress... or is this not considered quality?

During a threesome, he even managed to get his erection up within a couple of minutes after hard sex, isn’t that quality?

 

[DD69-1]

Then what, pray tell, are the qualities of a MC?

It depends on what qualities of Mc we are talking about?

I wouldn't call Sterling an idiot, since this game is partly comedy and humor and a lot of other qualities, so I think Sterling is quite an ordinary guy, without any problems... I don’t know what quality of MC you were expecting

Being the audience's surrogate for the story as the protagonist, and all events impact primarily him without any real agency in those events, as opposed making the decisions that drive the story forward... So yeah, Sterling has literally all the required qualities of being a Main Character, and is therefor this game's Main Character.

Maybe he's always been wanting Chad Chaddington III, heir to the Chaddington Pants fortune and "Effortless Slayer of all pussy" to be his surrogate.
Y'know, a Gary Stu...

Just not a pushover character and one who can stand his ground and is also assertive and mostly pragmatic with his decision making, just pounding pussy doesn't make a good MC... when I wrote he (Sterling) is stupid it didn't mean that I wanted an MC to be a chad or Alpha male.

Will have to wait and see if the next game has an MC like that

 

[Jerk/jerk]

So can someone please explain why all the hate to Sterling? I mean he is trying to keep the household from getting corrupted by Hunter, even if he is pretty passive and most of it is done for laughs anyway. You can even justify the MC's insane sax drive and willingness to fuck anything that moves because of the drugs and stuff Hunter is slipping everywhere. So why the hate?

 

[panzermaster]

So can someone please explain why all the hate to Sterling? I mean he is trying to keep the household from getting corrupted by Hunter, even if he is pretty passive and most of it is done for laughs anyway. You can even justify the MC's insane sax drive and willingness to fuck anything that moves because of the drugs and stuff Hunter is slipping everywhere. So why the hate?

Personally I don't hate him, my headcanon was just a way to improve the NTR ending of Kevin of Chapter 12. As I found it was lacking in the NTR aspects. Me and Fayn Arry suggest improvments in order to make it better. That was it.

But no I don't believe that Sterling is a terrible person considering the situation and the "genre" of the story.

 

[Snugglepuff]

]when I wrote he (Sterling) is stupid it didn't mean that I wanted an MC to be a chad or Alpha male.

You're basically describing an Alpha Male in your first sentence though.

Just not a pushover character and one who can stand his ground and is also assertive and mostly pragmatic with his decision making, just pounding pussy doesn't make a good MC...

This is literally basic Alpha Male characteristics here.

Repeating your same complaint about Sterling as a character isn't going to change him though...

 

[Fayn Arawn]

To be fair, Sterling does make some dumb decisions, but that's exactly what makes him a good main character, because Power Vacuum is a comedy. If Sterling was smarter and more in control then the story would be more predictable and less humorous. His bumbling leads to entertaining situations that wouldn't happen otherwise.

 

[Snugglepuff]

To be fair, Sterling does make some dumb decisions, but that's exactly what makes him a good main character, because Power Vacuum is a comedy. If Sterling was smarter and more in control then the story would be more predictable and less humorous. His bumbling leads to entertaining situations that wouldn't happen otherwise.

Bumbling... Now I can't help but imagine this as a porno Carry On movie!

 

[DD69-1]

You're basically describing an Alpha Male in your first sentence though.

This is literally basic Alpha Male characteristics here.

Repeating your same complaint about Sterling as a character isn't going to change him though...

I'm not sure what is Alpha male in here with the traits that I had mentioned, I haven't written dominant, flexes his strength / superiority towards others, Alpha's don't speak like Sterling as well, they finish what they have to say in a couple of lines, instead of making it in a paragraph.

I know that won't change Sterling but since I was asked what qualities that I would like in an MC by suddenreal was just answering those, if you want to grab only a couple of things which I've written and mask them as alpha traits there's nothing I can do about it.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I'm not sure what is Alpha male in here with the traits that I had mentioned

You don't know what the traits associated with Alpha Males are, period.

flexes his strength / superiority towards others

That's not Alpha Male.
That's a modern stereotype derived from the stereotype college jock, which is basically a Beta Male trying to masquerade as an Alpha.

Alpha's don't speak like Sterling as well, they finish what they have to say in a couple of lines, instead of making it in a paragraph.

I didn't say Sterling was an Alpha Male, so comparing him to something you don't actually understand is rather silly.

I know that won't change Sterling but since I was asked what qualities that I would like in an MC by suddenreal was just answering those, if you want to grab only a couple of things which I've written and mask them as alpha traits there's nothing I can do about it.

Your repeated complaints about Sterling's character has nothing to do with what anyone else said.
It's you saying the same things over, and over. This isn't the first time you said those things about Sterling, about how "he's not a MC" when you clearly don't understand what makes a MC, to the point that you then move the goalposts to what you think makes a MC... Which still is not what a MC is.

 

[Deleted member 7535870]

You don't know what the traits associated with Alpha Males are, period.



That's not Alpha Male.
That's a modern stereotype derived from the stereotype college jock, which is basically a Beta Male trying to masquerade as an Alpha.



I didn't say Sterling was an Alpha Male, so comparing him to something you don't actually understand is rather silly.



Your repeated complaints about Sterling's character has nothing to do with what anyone else said.
It's you saying the same things over, and over. This isn't the first time you said those things about Sterling, about how "he's not a MC" when you clearly don't understand what makes a MC, to the point that you then move the goalposts to what you think makes a MC... Which still is not what a MC is.

I don't understand why all those uproar
Sterling may not be a male alpha but he's not a loser that's all who count
He has one of the best level up I've never seen in a game if you take Sterling chapter 1 to chapter 6 you know the difference.
Also Sterling have he's charm and he's not taking adventage of others he made all those thing to Protect he's family
One of the best mc i have never seen easely ranked in my top 3

 

[BBC King]

So can someone please explain why all the hate to Sterling? I mean he is trying to keep the household from getting corrupted by Hunter, even if he is pretty passive and most of it is done for laughs anyway. You can even justify the MC's insane sax drive and willingness to fuck anything that moves because of the drugs and stuff Hunter is slipping everywhere. So why the hate?

I dont think its hate for him particularly, more so the game itself plays like a comedy/over-written sitcom. The dev made alot of creative choices that personally feel like a miss for me. The saving grace is the models/sex scenes.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Apparently, teasers came out today

 

[maynardkeynes65]

Hey guys! A status update was released mentioning "concerned with status", can somebody share the percentage or info related?

 

[DD69-1]

You don't know what the traits associated with Alpha Males are, period.

That's not Alpha Male.
That's a modern stereotype derived from the stereotype college jock, which is basically a Beta Male trying to masquerade as an Alpha.

I didn't say Sterling was an Alpha Male, so comparing him to something you don't actually understand is rather silly.

Your repeated complaints about Sterling's character has nothing to do with what anyone else said.
It's you saying the same things over, and over. This isn't the first time you said those things about Sterling, about how "he's not a MC" when you clearly don't understand what makes a MC, to the point that you then move the goalposts to what you think makes a MC... Which still is not what a MC is.

You're basically describing an Alpha Male in your first sentence though.

This is literally basic Alpha Male characteristics here.

Repeating your same complaint about Sterling as a character isn't going to change him though...

You haven't listed a single quality either, you're just shunning me down, stating that yeah that's not right, those are basic traits of a male character that I had listed but now you're drawing comparisons to jocks [most jocks I met in college were assholes, not sure which jocks you're referring to]. I haven't moved goalposts, I was asked what traits an MC should have, I stated them they were rendered as alpha traits by you which I didn't even say in my post. You brought up the alpha/beta conversation.

even through my traits for an MC had assertiveness and mostly pragmatic with his decision making in my earlier post.

You can call Sterling an MC sure but he lacks the traits for the same. I have my logical reasoning behind not thinking of him as an MC and you clearly have yours. I'm not here to convince you or anyone else. I was just sharing my thoughts because I was asked.

And I'm not asking to change him now, because the game will already be over in 1.5 years (2 updates more) and it's already too late to make changes.