Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Graag]

I've seen a lot of people say for him to move, but in all honestly, how many people here are subbed right now AND will move over to subscribestar if he made the move? That's his biggest concern, that he'll lose a lot of income. It's easy to tell him to move, we just have to wait for the game, but he's the one taking a financial hit.

I for one will make the move if he does. It would also allow him to use some of the darker ideas he said he couldn't use, using patreon.

Bottom line: how much is your freedom worth in cold hard cash?

Also. keep in mind that Patreon will only do this more and more coming years. It will keep abusing it's power and keep pressuring. Why give them that power? Move away from them and something else, something better will eventually fill that POWER VACUUM (sorry too easy)

 

[JojodoLolo]

Who would have thought the best way to stop Hunter methods is patreon... I hope It doesn't change the dialogues too much, it will be weird without the incest dirty talk, especially in this update with Ophelia

 

[ScareKing]

Who would have thought the best way to stop Hunter methods is patreon... I hope It doesn't change the dialogues too much, it will be weird without the incest dirty talk, especially in this update with Ophelia

Maybe hes going to make a version following patreon rules and send the "real" version on email, i wonder how much would change if dev gos to Subscribestar.

 

[DD69-1]

The NTR haters is just... I mean in other forums with games without NTR, people who suggested NTR are told to "get lost and go to a NTR game"... But in a game with NTR, the NTR Haters will do what they can to well, stop its progress and all. I know, that not all of the "anti ntr" are that extreme... But still

I mean, do they go screaming "NTR" when their idol is dating someone else or something...?

it was flagged because of Hunter's methods of how he traps/seduces girls... blackmail, rape, drugs goes against patreon TOS ... nothing to do with NTR.. hunter can still fuck FMCs normally without using the above mentioned methods, and the game wouldn't be flagged, it's that simple... don't start debate on NTR vs Non NTR, when it's clearly not that

 

[mininator1]

I hope there will be some chastity and NTR. And the MC will clean up the mess after they got fucked.

 

[useless-j]

AWAM?

A Wife and Mother.

 

[damnmalic]

I didn't think your spelling, grammar, and punctuation could get any worse. We'll never know though, once this gets deleted.

English isn't my native so idc about spelling or grammar im just glad my point got across and sad at this wasted potential creator has real talent for renders etc but its wasted on this story

 

[damnmalic]

What story. The game is a comedy. He's progressing more and more with each character every chapter but it's not like there is a clear goal in mind other than cockblocking hunter

What kind of comedy focuses on stopping people from raping your loved ones because now with the newest arrival its probably going to get worst

 

[storm1051787]

What kind of comedy focuses on stopping people from raping your loved ones because now with the newest arrival its probably going to get worst

The ones where the villain is an absolute joke whose plans blow up in his face all the time. Hunter is basically wile e coyote. I've said it before but as far as ntr villains go on this site hunter isnt a threat at all

 

[ScareKing]

it was flagged because of Hunter's methods of how he traps/seduces girls... blackmail, rape, drugs goes against patreon TOS ... nothing to do with NTR.. hunter can still fuck FMCs normally without using the above mentioned methods, and the game wouldn't be flagged, it's that simple... don't start debate on NTR vs Non NTR, when it's clearly not that

Theres a bunch of games doing the same thing and nothing happens to then, if this game didn't get report, probably we would be talking about what happen in ch 10, and the reason it was report was NTR What If, it was flagged because of patreon tos but NTR report bring they attention.

 

[Bear2093]

why not keep patreon but also get subscribestar, which could be a home for the what ifs / the darker ideas he has.
Or he gets subscribestar, sets a goal for how many people need to move over to that in order for it to be a viable option. If not enough people, stick to patreon.

 

[Marlboro1911]

anyone know how long the delay wil be ?

 

[dartred]

anyone know how long the delay wil be ?

No because it's up to Patreon on how long they take to greenlight what WWG sends them. They can take a few days or they could take a month or 2 or 4 (yeah, it took 4 months since the last time they replied to WWG).

WWG hopes the approve quickly so he can release as soon as june 7th, but it's not in his hands.

 

[too tired]

This is a fucked up situation :/
I didn't quite understood one thing tho, will all the events envolving Hunters methods be changed in the next version to please Patreon TOS or is the dev gonna do like 2 versions of the game? (Censored and uncensored or smth)

 

[Deleted member 1961891]

I've seen a lot of people say for him to move, but in all honestly, how many people here are subbed right now AND will move over to subscribestar if he made the move? That's his biggest concern, that he'll lose a lot of income. It's easy to tell him to move, we just have to wait for the game, but he's the one taking a financial hit.

I for one will make the move if he does. It would also allow him to use some of the darker ideas he said he couldn't use, using patreon.

Yeah, I totally hear you. I only subscribe to the higher tier periodically. (A practice I frequently do with other vn creators.) For me, it doesn't matter whether I give WWG money through patreon or subscriber star. But I don't think a total shut down of his patreon site is a good move. Too many people would either not bother or be unaware of the change.

The best idea I've heard so far is two simultanious versions of the game. The censored on patreon and the uncensored/what-ifs on subscriberstar. A problem with which I've heard though is that he can be held accountable for his off-patreon content too. (Not sure if a rumor or not.)

 

[BaeScout83]

If it hasn't been mentioned previously (OK who am I kidding? No-one here reads back more than 5 messages...) one of the main reasons WWG sticks with Patreon as a platform, and doesn't activate their inactive SubscribeStar yet, is because a large part of their patrons use PayPal.
Back around 2018 the "internet-warriors" made sure that SubscribeStar lost their deal with PayPal, and are now limited to credit cards and a few other options.

 

[x0run]

If it hasn't been mentioned previously (OK who am I kidding? No-one here reads back more than 5 messages...) one of the main reasons WWG sticks with Patreon as a platform, and doesn't activate their inactive SubscribeStar yet, is because a large part of their patrons use PayPal.
Back around 2018 the "internet-warriors" made sure that SubscribeStar lost their deal with PayPal, and are now limited to credit cards and a few other options.

For myself at least, I can confirm that was the reason why I haven't touched subscribestar up till now. I think it was around a time when a few breaches happened so I'd rather not have to give my direct information to another company.
Though if this keeps up, I might have to give in or buy more prepaid credit cards

 

[whalat]

I've seen a lot of people say for him to move, but in all honestly, how many people here are subbed right now AND will move over to subscribestar if he made the move? That's his biggest concern, that he'll lose a lot of income. It's easy to tell him to move, we just have to wait for the game, but he's the one taking a financial hit.

I for one will make the move if he does. It would also allow him to use some of the darker ideas he said he couldn't use, using patreon.

He could create a subscribestar page in addition to his patreon and have the game itself only advertise the subscribestar.
That way in the long run all new fans would join subscribestar and he could keep the patreon running in zombie mode without losing all the subs who might be lost in the change.

To be clear he should still update the patreon but only advertise the subscribestar.

 

[evyleu]

Why is it so hard to read patreon's rules? .... but it's easier to blame the one who reported the unauthorized content.
Church is the perfect place to cry

 

[dartred]

Why is it so hard to read patreon's rules? .... but it's easier to blame the one who reported the unauthorized content.
Church is the perfect place to cry

A bunch of these games violate Patreon rules. These games would be bland and boring without the incest, threat of an antagonist, black mailing, etc.