Fayn Arawn

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While "non-canon", the characters themselves stay in character during the bad ends and the what-if's, meaning that pretty much every female character in the game not only has the potential to become a relatively mindless cock-sleeve, but does so far more easily for the NTR scenarios (albeit, not as easily as your typical NTR), even when initially there is an excuse/lever to push them into it it is still very damaging to their characters as far as the main game is considered imho, especially in their treatment of Sterling in many of the scenarios.

At this point you can call every LI in this game walking naive holes when it comes to every other male than Sterling, because you bet that if Sterling is not there to save them, theyre gonna get fucked and oh boy they will enjoy it. To the point that they forget all about what Sterling means to them just from the sheer pleasure, they have no say in the outcome of Hunters pursuit.

The only one that can prevent it is MC himself and the only way to solve the conflict is to remove Hunter from the house because as I said the LIs dont have enough willpower to stop themselves from getting raped.

It creates an effect that makes the LIs come out as extremely hypocritical because they have deep complicated personalities that Sterling need to breakthrough little by little in the main route, but become one dimensional cumsluts when it comes to any other pursuer instead of Sterling.

one of the main selling point of this VN is the unique personalities of the family-members and how Sterling is interacting with them to ensure the best outcome, but you see in the bad ending it all falls apart just to get to sex.

When it comes to the interactions with Sterling the girls can be witty, smart, funny, emotional, tragic. but with Hunter.... well... they are just HORNY and nothing else. for me it breaks the whole immersion for the whole story going forward.

These are valid points, and it has occurred to me also that the females might be too "easy" and would fall for anyone with a big enough cock.

On the other hand this is a far-fetched comedy incest porn story, so suspension-of-disbelief is a prerequisite to enjoy the overall scenario anyway.

How about this: in bad-ends and what-ifs, the females are uninhibited and easy to seduce, but the "canon" females are actually not such easy prey?
 

Azekiel

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It's literally on the game description, use your eyes you numpty
You have to click on the game to see the description and bigguy is saying people who are not interested in ntr won't bother clicking because they'll see the big NTR sign on the update
 

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Thats how the "non canon" content affects the main story, the NTR in this game just makes the LIs feel like even more of an NPC than in the main route.
not once in the whole main route have an LI outright rejected Hunters pursuit or noticed that theres something stinky going on with that well stinky old man.

At this point you can call every LI in this game walking naive holes when it comes to every other male than Sterling, because you bet that if Sterling is not there to save them, theyre gonna get fucked and oh boy they will enjoy it. To the point that they forget all about what Sterling means to them just from the sheer pleasure, they have no say in the outcome of Hunters pursuit.

The only one that can prevent it is MC himself and the only way to solve the conflict is to remove Hunter from the house because as I said the LIs dont have enough willpower to stop themselves from getting raped.

It creates an effect that makes the LIs come out as extremely hypocritical because they have deep complicated personalities that Sterling need to breakthrough little by little in the main route, but become one dimensional cumsluts when it comes to any other pursuer instead of Sterling.

one of the main selling point of this VN is the unique personalities of the family-members and how Sterling is interacting with them to ensure the best outcome, but you see in the bad ending it all falls apart just to get to sex.

When it comes to the interactions with Sterling the girls can be witty, smart, funny, emotional, tragic. but with Hunter.... well... they are just HORNY and nothing else. for me it breaks the whole immersion for the whole story going forward.

I would offer a solution for that is to make the choices for the bad endings come from the LIs and not from sterling.
I feel like you're overlooking the difference in HOW Sterling and Hunter win over the women. When Sterling gets together with them, it's because he's taken the time to build a relationship and earn their love and trust. The reason it seems like they turn into horny mindless playthings with Hunter is because Hunter is actually doing things like dosing them with mind altering substances, hypnotizing them, tricking them, or otherwise coercing them to eliminate their existing willpower as a factor and make them uncontrollably horny. Saying that it makes them seem like they secretly are just "naive holes" because of what Hunter does is literally slut-shaming women that have been drugged, raped, and brainwashed. Of course it looks different when Hunter gets them, because his methods are completely different from Sterling's and are designed to break the girls' minds. It wouldn't be a "mind-break" if they were sluts to begin with.

"not once in the whole main route have an LI outright rejected Hunters pursuit or noticed that theres something stinky going on with that well stinky old man."
They don't notice, because he's being sneaky and underhanded, and he's been practicing that for decades. The reason they don't outright reject him is because they don't know what he's up to. No normal person anticipates their father or grandfather doing things like Hunter does. They can't reject him if they don't know he's after them.
 

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...wut? You appear to be suggesting the What If's are not separated and then ... showing a picture of them listed separately... I have no idea what you're trying to do here. That made no sense.

EDIT: Okay, and the thing you quoted was talking about where to find the patch. Yes, they all use the same patch file, but the What If stories each need to be downloaded separately, and they each need the patch added to them individually.
 
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I know i know its a dumb question but where the hell should i put the patch file bz i put it in the game folder and it still doesnt do shit and when tried to patch it from joiplays option it doesnt recognize the patch file
 

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I know i know its a dumb question but where the hell should i put the patch file bz i put it in the game folder and it still doesnt do shit and when tried to patch it from joiplays option it doesnt recognize the patch file
the file patch.rpy must be placed in "Game" folder (eg. C:/PowerVacuum/Game), and the game must be started from the beginning, if you load a save, the patch doesn't work.
 
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the file patch.rpy must be placed in "Game" folder (eg. C:/PowerVacuum/Game), and the game must be started from the beginning, if you load a save, the patch doesn't work.
Thanks bro such a stupid mistake by me, its been quite some time that i have started patch and shit so muct have overlooked
 

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the file patch.rpy must be placed in "Game" folder (eg. C:/PowerVacuum/Game), and the game must be started from the beginning, if you load a save, the patch doesn't work.
why not just put the file "patch.rpy" into whatif-7 become a full game as whatif-1~6 ?
Origin whatif-7 doesn't work anything without "patch.rpy"
 
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Thats how the "non canon" content affects the main story, the NTR in this game just makes the LIs feel like even more of an NPC than in the main route.
not once in the whole main route have an LI outright rejected Hunters pursuit or noticed that theres something stinky going on with that well stinky old man.

At this point you can call every LI in this game walking naive holes when it comes to every other male than Sterling, because you bet that if Sterling is not there to save them, theyre gonna get fucked and oh boy they will enjoy it. To the point that they forget all about what Sterling means to them just from the sheer pleasure, they have no say in the outcome of Hunters pursuit.

The only one that can prevent it is MC himself and the only way to solve the conflict is to remove Hunter from the house because as I said the LIs dont have enough willpower to stop themselves from getting raped.

It creates an effect that makes the LIs come out as extremely hypocritical because they have deep complicated personalities that Sterling need to breakthrough little by little in the main route, but become one dimensional cumsluts when it comes to any other pursuer instead of Sterling.

one of the main selling point of this VN is the unique personalities of the family-members and how Sterling is interacting with them to ensure the best outcome, but you see in the bad ending it all falls apart just to get to sex.

When it comes to the interactions with Sterling the girls can be witty, smart, funny, emotional, tragic. but with Hunter.... well... they are just HORNY and nothing else. for me it breaks the whole immersion for the whole story going forward.

I would offer a solution for that is to make the choices for the bad endings come from the LIs and not from sterling.
The reason why the girls get corrupted so easily by people like Hunter is because he uses certain emotional baggage or slimey situations to manipulate and get what he wants. And once he gets them, they're his. He also uses drugs sometimes lol, soooo....

Sterling doesn't take advantage of any of that and instead tries to actually build trust with the girls. But you can't deny that once Sterling gets a girl they become a cumslut for them too. It just is more effort from the player's perspective because Sterling has to build that connection rather than take it.

So sure. The girls are easy once they submit. But this isn't unrealistic. People manipulate others to get them to do what they want all the time. People like Hunter exist and do in a way take "shortcuts" to getting what they want with manipulation rather than through genuine connection.
 

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I feel like you're overlooking the difference in HOW Sterling and Hunter win over the women. When Sterling gets together with them, it's because he's taken the time to build a relationship and earn their love and trust. The reason it seems like they turn into horny mindless playthings with Hunter is because Hunter is actually doing things like dosing them with mind altering substances, hypnotizing them, tricking them, or otherwise coercing them to eliminate their existing willpower as a factor and make them uncontrollably horny. Saying that it makes them seem like they secretly are just "naive holes" because of what Hunter does is literally slut-shaming women that have been drugged, raped, and brainwashed. Of course it looks different when Hunter gets them, because his methods are completely different from Sterling's and are designed to break the girls' minds. It wouldn't be a "mind-break" if they were sluts to begin with.

"not once in the whole main route have an LI outright rejected Hunters pursuit or noticed that theres something stinky going on with that well stinky old man."
They don't notice, because he's being sneaky and underhanded, and he's been practicing that for decades. The reason they don't outright reject him is because they don't know what he's up to. No normal person anticipates their father or grandfather doing things like Hunter does. They can't reject him if they don't know he's after them.
But where do you put the line?
For chapters 1-7 I would 100% agree with you on that (80% alcohol to ophelia, dropping substance in the soup etc.)

But as for the latest chapters (8-10) I would argue that the LIs are as much drugged in their interactions with Sterling as they are in the interactions with Hunter in the bad end.
In fact I would say that if they werent drugged by Hunter in the first place none of the naughty stuff with Sterling wouldve happened at all, not even close.

one example I can give is in CH 9 in the bad end with Cath and Amber, theres no emphasis on Hunter drugging them extra to get into their pants, in fact theres much more emphasis again on drugging Sterling to get him out of the picture so Hunter will be the one that satisfies them.

But still in the dialog theres far more inhibitions put up from the LIs when it comes to Sterling compared to Hunter scenes.
For example Amber shames Cath for having sex with her Brother but none of that comes up with Hunter which is still incest.

Another example in ch. 10 ophelia is as much drugged from the wine with Sterling but still only lets him fuck her in the ass while Hunter goes from 0 to a 100 real fast.

Edit: I wanna add that we both can agree that IRL girls that have been drugged are extremely far form how its presented in this game, we all know that girls that have been drugged and raped IRL lose the ability to speak think and see clearly and most of them certainly dont enjoy the experience (not even talking about carrying the baby of the rapist), while here the girls clearly know what theyre doing, so saying that im slut-shaming based on my takes on the game doesnt hold any weight according to that.


Can you still say that the difference in approach by the two characters is the only factor that decides the outcome of each scene?
 
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