Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[The Senior Perv]

do you know the name of the other games that are referenced

Big Brother, A Foot of the Mountains and Being a DIK.

 

[Joey's Conscience]

Yes, I could spend those overtime hours on the main game. Same way every salary worker could put in 50% more hours per day for no benefit. My goal as a one-man team is to find a work/life balance that is sustainable. The What Ifs? stretch me thin but I do them because I'm passionate about exploring new concepts in my work and they are a breath of fresh air to me.

Well, you're not exactly a salary worker in this case, you're more of an enterprenour, and everything regarding your product has repercussions, either positive or negative. If you stopped with the what ifs, it would have some effect on your earnings, and so would releasing main updates in 4 months instead of 6 (if you spent those extra hours working on the main game). Which one would be more beneficial to you, thats another discussion.

In the end of the day, it comes down to what I said before, you say working 9 hours on the main game would burn you out, while 6 hours in the main game + 3 hours on what ifs doesn't because you enjoy it more.

But "people need this explained" because it's pretty much the same work, and therefore there's not much reason why the main game would be taxing enough to be considered "work time", while the what ifs are "free time". But If the different script somehow makes it more enjoyable for you to work on what if, then it is what it is, I'm not gonna pretend to be able to read your mind.

 

[panzermaster]

THe WHAT IF? are getting better and better and this one is the BEST... Really loved the crossover at the end. I was hoping for Ophelia to go visit Linda from Milfy City but of course, the dev cannot make crossover with every popular porn game on patreon.

What? Why? Games If you ever see my message, just be aware that right now with the crossover, you have a tool in your hands. You have endless possibilities of making parodies about other games.

Because right now we are reaching the next level : we used to have NTR porn games that are parodies of major franchise in pop culture, big budget doushinji. But Now... we are getting NTR parodies of porn games and this is simply perfect.

You did an amazing job wth this What-if 8, I am as much excited about those than I am about the main game. See you in january.

 

[fisquinhox2]

I like the crossover ideia, but futa naah...

 

[harsha_26]

I don't know why people need this explained, but here's a mock-up of my schedule:

If I work six hours a day, seven days a week on the main game(assuming eight hours of sleep), that gives me ten hours of non-allotted time per day.

Now, during periods where I have a lenient schedule, if I devote three of those ten hours to What Ifs? as a form of overtime, how is that delaying development of the main game?

Yes, I could spend those overtime hours on the main game. Same way every salary worker could put in 50% more hours per day for no benefit. My goal as a one-man team is to find a work/life balance that is sustainable. The What Ifs? stretch me thin but I do them because I'm passionate about exploring new concepts in my work and they are a breath of fresh air to me.

People like to throw around the term "milking", but understand that if my patrons want me to stop doing What Ifs?, then they'll just be getting less content on the same schedule because I'm not spending more than 42 hours a week on a creative job that pulls in manager at McDonald's money at it's peak. If you average it out with the first two years where I made employee at McDonald's money and the 15 thousand in computer equipment, it's laughable to expect more.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is my update schedule. And my update schedule of 6-7 months per chapter is absolutely fair. For the amount of content in it and compared to other developers. When you factor in the What Ifs?, you can see how much of my time goes to pumping out content for my patrons. Chapter 11 has been scheduled for January for months on my end whether the What Ifs? exist or not.

Well, you explained well. But, can you please also respond on his "render count of all what Ifs between chapter 10 and chapter 11 compare to the update coming in January" Argument? Is that update (without bad ntrs) going to be huge compare to all what ifs combined? Particularly & most importantly, lewd renders.

 

[dartred]

Well, you explained well. But, can you please also respond on his "render count of all what Ifs between chapter 10 and chapter 11 compare to the update coming in January" Argument? Is that update (without bad ntrs) going to be huge compare to all what ifs combined? Particularly & most importantly, lewd renders.

That's not fair. The what ifs are meant to be fuck fest and less story. You want something that's made with instant gratification to be compared to something that has an erotic scene every 2nd or 3rd scene.

probably not exact, but if we got by ratio, 80% the content for this what if was someone blowing Ophelia, trying to blow Ophelia or fucking Ophelia. While maybe 40% of the main games update is sex.

The main game is going to be developing story. The two games have different goals in mind.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Well, you're not exactly a salary worker in this case, you're more of an enterprenour, and everything regarding your product has repercussions, either positive or negative. If you stopped with the what ifs, it would have some effect on your earnings, and so would releasing main updates in 4 months instead of 6 (if you spent those extra hours working on the main game). Which one would be more beneficial to you, thats another discussion.

In the end of the day, it comes down to what I said before, you say working 9 hours on the main game would burn you out, while 6 hours in the main game + 3 hours on what ifs doesn't because you enjoy it more.

But "people need this explained" because it's pretty much the same work, and therefore there's not much reason why the main game would be taxing enough to be considered "work time", while the what ifs are "free time". But If the different script somehow makes it more enjoyable for you to work on what if, then it is what it is, I'm not gonna pretend to be able to read your mind.

You seem to have understood the work/life balance argument, but you may have missed the economic one. Think about it: Patreon developers don't get paid by the hour, and they don't get paid based on delivery of their product. What is the incentive to rush development?

The salary worker analogy is perfectly apt. It's like an unwritten contract where the patrons expect a certain amount of value after a certain amount of time. As one of those patrons, I'm willing to wait (and pay) as long as I feel I'm getting fair value. And as a middle-aged adult with other things to do, 6-7 months wait is not the end of the world for me. (Insert rant about young people and instant gratification here.)

If WWG were to put out more frequent updates, they'd almost certainly be smaller and lesser in quality. This would more likely risk losing supporters (like myself) than gaining them, as well as risk burnout which would also affect quality. I've seen too many games put out frequent, tiny, boring updates, and I don't support them.

 

[harsha_26]

That's not fair. The what ifs are meant to be fuck fest and less story. You want something that's made with instant gratification to be compared to something that has an erotic scene every 2nd or 3rd scene.

probably not exact, but if we got by ratio, 80% the content for this what if was someone blowing Ophelia, trying to blow Ophelia or fucking Ophelia. While maybe 40% of the main games update is sex.

The main game is going to be developing story. The two games have different goals in mind.

So, in a way, if we calculate all the what ifs and main story combined & make a overall content. Then, It means, NTR fanbase got more lewd all over to fap with all the main Lis, while non ntr fanbase has to satisfy with heavy story, particularly with Ophelia along with some lewds. Okay. Very fair lol. Thankyou.

 

[SuperPerv96]

Could somebody please tell me if i'm right to assume that the girl circled in red its the MC's mom, and the girl circled in blue its the MC's sister?

 

[Rabbit6605]

Could somebody please tell me if i'm right to assume that the girl circled in red its the MC's mom, and the girl circled in blue its the MC's sister? View attachment 2194349

RED IS MOTHER
BLUE IS SISTER
THE GUY IS GRANDPA
PINKISH SWIMSUIT AUNT

 

[Avaron1974]

Could somebody please tell me if i'm right to assume that the girl circled in red its the MC's mom, and the girl circled in blue its the MC's sister? View attachment 2194349

Correct.

He also has another sister who doesn't seem to be in that pic and a cousin who's the one poking her face through next to his mother.

 

[jond2760]

I thought that What If 8 was pretty good. Not the best ever, but still really good. I hope they keep playing around with more weird premises.

 

[crazyhorsebraz]

Correct.

He also has another sister who doesn't seem to be in that pic and a cousin who's the one poking her face through next to his mother.

The last one is not his sister. She is his cousin.

 

[Avaron1974]

The last one is not his sister. She is his cousin.

Corrected it the second I posted it. Did it that fast I didn't even get an edited post tag.

 

[jond2760]

Well, that What If was great. I hope Chapter eleven is that good.

 

[capicoli]

That foot of the mountain joke had me rolling. Worst grind I have ever seen and it wasn't exaggerating. Good thing I play enough porn games to get all the references. Since I'm a part of the 1.5% of people that enjoy Futa and NTR this was my favorite what if so far.

 

[crazyhorsebraz]

I don't know why people need this explained, but here's a mock-up of my schedule:

If I work six hours a day, seven days a week on the main game(assuming eight hours of sleep), that gives me ten hours of non-allotted time per day.

Now, during periods where I have a lenient schedule, if I devote three of those ten hours to What Ifs? as a form of overtime, how is that delaying development of the main game?

Yes, I could spend those overtime hours on the main game. Same way every salary worker could put in 50% more hours per day for no benefit. My goal as a one-man team is to find a work/life balance that is sustainable. The What Ifs? stretch me thin but I do them because I'm passionate about exploring new concepts in my work and they are a breath of fresh air to me.

People like to throw around the term "milking", but understand that if my patrons want me to stop doing What Ifs?, then they'll just be getting less content on the same schedule because I'm not spending more than 42 hours a week on a creative job that pulls in manager at McDonald's money at it's peak. If you average it out with the first two years where I made employee at McDonald's money and the 15 thousand in computer equipment, it's laughable to expect more.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is my update schedule. And my update schedule of 6-7 months per chapter is absolutely fair. For the amount of content in it and compared to other developers. When you factor in the What Ifs?, you can see how much of my time goes to pumping out content for my patrons. Chapter 11 has been scheduled for January for months on my end whether the What Ifs? exist or not.

I'd love to play the chapter 11, especially after the great chapter 10. But I also love the What If series. When I read that Ophelia will be a futa, I inicialy thought it was a bad choice. But after starting to play, I concluded that I couldn't be more wrong, thanks to your fantastic imagination and your incredible sense of humor. Anyway, I would like to say that you did and you do a great job, whether in your working hours or during your hobbies. Thank you for all this.

 

[SuperPerv96]

RED IS MOTHER
BLUE IS SISTER
THE GUY IS GRANDPA
PINKISH SWIMSUIT AUNT

Correct.

He also has another sister who doesn't seem to be in that pic and a cousin who's the one poking her face through next to his mother.

Thanks for your help to both of you, could you also answer me one more question please? it the MCs mom a Futa? bc in this scene it looks like it

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Thanks for your help to both of you, could you also answer me one more question please? it the MCs mom a Futa? bc in this scene it looks like it
View attachment 2194389 View attachment 2194390

No, she's not a futa in the main game. She's only a futa in What If #8, which is a non-canon alternate universe.

 

[RedGlow]

I personally do not like FUTA at all. Concept was very good but it would be 200% better if the antagonist was a male character. (I am speaking for what if chapter 8 ofc)