punisher2099

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How does this poke a hole? These next few chapters are going to be bonus sized. Where does that bonus content come from? The free time I was using to make the What Ifs?. I'm taking a paycut to pull unpaid overtime for the next year and I knew people would still find a way to complain.
Goddamn you jumped on that fast :LOL:...anyway get back to work all the pirates are getting restless:ROFLMAO:
 
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beegemgeege

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So personally I’m not bothered by this and look forward to what’s to come, but boy does this poke a hole in the “what ifs” don’t make the game take longer camp. How many people were arguing left and right that it had absolutely no effect on the main game? Guess all the people telling the whiners to shut up about the what ifs delaying things were 100% wrong. This is kind of a funny little development, shocked that war hasn’t started back up.
For real my dude. Ive got no problem with it either, but trying to get the forum to understand the base logic that time spent on the what ifs was time not spent on the game is a waste of time. They just assume your complaining and not trying to explain basic semantics. Like hell, if it takes longer it takes longer, his supporters are obviously fine with it. But I gave up long ago once I started banging my head against the wall when it comes to basic things like this.
 

beegemgeege

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How does this poke a hole? These next few chapters are going to be bonus sized. Where does that bonus content come from? The free time I was using to make the What Ifs?. I'm taking a paycut to pull unpaid overtime for the next year and I knew people would still find a way to complain.
The fact that getting rid of what ifs adds *bonus content* to the next chapters is the proof in the pudding bud
 

beegemgeege

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No, like I already said, that will have you banging your head against the wall. But... BUT... and hear me out, if you no longer work on the what ifs, thats more free time yes? Free time you can use to go on vacation, eat fancy dinners, or......

OR...

work on the game. What you do with that time is entirely up to you but yes, it does in fact leave more time for things including more content for the main game. Which was the only point any of the sane people here were ever trying to make
 

beegemgeege

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I havent once said you should be working harder. Why do you keep assuming. For the last time: the point made was that IF you spend time on something adjacent to the game, thats time you arent spending on the main game. Geezus. By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.
 
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The fact that getting rid of what ifs adds *bonus content* to the next chapters is the proof in the pudding bud
I have two jobs: one is supposed to be full time and the other one I do very late at night (when I'm supposed to be free). I do it cause I need the money even though it is horribly tiring.

If WWG didn't to the WhatIfs, he would ve resting, going out with his people, watching a movie, whatever you do with your free time, not working on the main game which he already did cause HE IS NOT YOUR SLAVE.

Now, out pure integrity as a creator, he will sacrifice his free time not to earn more money but to continue to add bonus content to the main game so that him and everyone else can feel proud of the final product.

And how on earth do you repay him? With nothing but your incesant complains that only come from a useless ungreatful parasite such as yourself. To be schooled about working shifts by a low life like you... honestly WWG has way too much patience.
 

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I havent once said you should be working harder. Why do you keep assuming. For the last time: the point made was that IF you spend time on something adjacent to the game, thats time you arent spending on the main game. Geezus. By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.
So, you now want to pretend that your entire point was that any time I'm not spending on the game could be spent on the game?

Thanks for the super helpful tip!
 

Fayn Arawn

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I havent once said you should be working harder. Why do you keep assuming. For the last time: the point made was that IF you spend time on something adjacent to the game, thats time you arent spending on the main game. Geezus. By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.
There's a difference between a fact and a point. Example: "2+2=4" is not a point.
 

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So here's the thing. The what ifs were diversions from the main narrative that were different enough because concepts came from Patrons. By now cutting them for more base work on main game it potentially increases the odds of burnout. You can only work on the same thing for so long before you need a break from it.

The main game is his full time job. When you leave work do you go and do the exact same thing when you get home? I drive/deliver for FedEx, once i get home the last thing i want to do is drive anymore. In WWG's case the main game is what he does for 40-50 hours a week. Now he was using his non work hours for what ifs instead of getting away from the computer and doing other things as a thank you to his highest tier patrons. So instead of watching tv, going out, ect... WWG instead used his main skill set for something different.

Honestly I'm kinda worried that instead of getting that break he is going to add those what if hours to main game production. In turn the risk of burnout, creative block or even desire to just stop PV increases exponentially due to it potentially taking up too much of his time. Let's hope that the game doesn't suffer because of his choice. Thanks WWG for the work you've done already and the increased work load you plan to take on to deliver an epic last few chapters of PV.
 

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I just came to see if there's any news and it's suddenly chaotic. Feels like the Summertime Saga thread. Can we go back to being normal and asking "WhEn uPdAtE rElEaSe?" Thanks.
 
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Fayn Arawn

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Same way arguing time semantics on a forum is time not spent somewhere else :PogChamp:
The funny thing is we're not arguing semantics. You're arguing semantics, because you're either making a strawman or you're just slow. The fact that WWG can work extra time on the main game, instead of What Ifs, is not in dispute. This exchange started with uscmiller22's assertion that working on What Ifs slowed the progress on the main game, which is patently false, but you agreed with him. Read it again. That's why we're arguing.

So personally I’m not bothered by this and look forward to what’s to come, but boy does this poke a hole in the “what ifs” don’t make the game take longer camp. How many people were arguing left and right that it had absolutely no effect on the main game? Guess all the people telling the whiners to shut up about the what ifs delaying things were 100% wrong. This is kind of a funny little development, shocked that war hasn’t started back up.
 
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