In real life you have low chances to find a virgin outside teenagers. And you can't expect them to be good in bed.
Though I can understand the fantasy to have an adult virgin experienced in sex... But like every kinks it doesn't appeal to everyone
Much like the pain and bleeding from ripping the hymen fantasy. If a woman is post pubescent, the chances are her hymen, if she had one at all, would have thinned and ceased to be a barrier long ago. If there is some serious tearing and bleeding, she's probably not finished with puberty, if you get my drift.
Also, penetrating the cervix is not a good thing.
Not wanting your girl to have already been with other guys isn't a kink. It's normal.
In the modern world, it often comes off as a sign of insecurity. There are a number of guys out there who want to make sure their partners have had no other experience to compare their performance too. Personally, I'd rather have an experienced woman like what I'm doing instead of being with someone who doesn't know the difference between a considerate, skilled lover and one who is actually selfish or clumsy.
Yeah, outside of highschool that virginity fixation becomes increasingly ridiculous.
Fine for fantasy, sure. Understandable for inexperienced kids. But an absurd expectation in adult reality.
One reaches a point in their life and it comes off as insecurity.
I think it's a fetish like any other, neither better nor worse. In general, I don't care much if they are or not, although certainly that the LIs are virgin has its positive points and some LIs are more interesting if they are.
In my 40 year sexual history, I've only been with one woman who'd recently been a virgin. I was not her first, but rather her third. She had the vigor of youth, yes, but she wasn't yet very experimental--there were many things she was hesitant to try. All in all, my experience with my more experienced partners was much more interesting.
That your family is like that doesn't mean that it is "normal". There are many people who have multiple boyfriends or girlfriends until they get married (or not). I don't see anything wrong with it.
That was definitely my experience.
Just because something has become less common doesn't mean it isn't normal. You probably won't believe me when I say this, but multiple sexual partners actually destroys a woman's ability to pairbond. Divorce rates among women who have slept around before getting married skyrocket with every additional partner. I know it sounds like double-standard BS, but it just doesn't have the same effect on men.
Where did you hear this? I've never seen this from a reputable scientific source, just from conservative Christians with an agenda to scare young kids into monogamy.
As for the games, I like romance. Unlike a lot of people around here, I actually don't mind non-harem games. Not everyone has to be a virgin, but I don't like MCs who just use women for their own sexual gratification. Honestly, I like it better if the MC is a virgin at the start too. Not a fan of manwhores, but that's sadly the default for most of the games on this site.
Neither do I. I prefer protagonists who show some depth of character--compassion, kindness, empathy. I've dropped a number of the games where I found the protagonist to be little more than a creep.
Again, it's not about shaming people without many sexual partners
I usually see the opposite--conservative voices trying to shame those of us who have had many partners over a lifetime.
If sex is so innocuous that you can have as much of it as you want with as many people as you want with no inherent ill effects, then why is rape so horriffic and traumatizing? If sex really doesn't mean anything, shouldn't it be similar to having your bike stolen or getting slapped in the face? Also, if sex is so trivial that we can throw it around like candy, then why is it illegal to have sex with children? Surely "they're too young to consent" doesn't really matter if the act is so innoculous you can throw it around like it was nothing. I mean, you could argue that a child is too young to consent to rides at an amusement park, but we still take them.
Comedian Rita Rudner once said that she was taught that "sex was something vile and disgusting that you saved for the man you love."
The truth is a lot of people want to justify their lifestyles because acceptance of the reality of what they're doing would break them. That's where you get these silly ideas that sex doesn't matter, but apparently it still matters a whole ton when it comes to kids but not to adults because reasons no one can explain.
You don't understand the concept of informed consent? There are many areas where children are deemed too young and lack the wisdom to give legal consent. Then again, many of the cultures who insist on virgin brides also allow for child brides. Some even support genital mutilation to (theoretically) reduce a woman's interest in sex. Much like the US practice of circumcision originally arose to improve mental health by reducing male masturbation. They believed masturbation caused mental illness.
Your argument reminds me of one of the accusations about atheists--they don't believe in God so that they can get away with their immoral lifestyles.
I know why. Based on our conversation, I doubt you'd believe me if I told you. Long story short (and this affects women far more than it affects men, but that doesn't mean it's okay for men to be manwhores), there are physiological and psychological effects that come with sex. For example, the body produces oxytocin, which is a hormone that strongly bonds people together. The more you create that bond and then break it, it's very similar to tape in that once you pull it off, it doesn't adhere as well the second time, and the more you do it, the less it sticks.
Once again, citation needed for this claim. I know a number of polyamorous women who have no problem forming very strong bonds. Your hypothesis doesn't seem to hold in the real world.
At the very least, this is measurable with divorce rates. Women that were virgins when they married had by far the lowest divorce rates. It more than doubled with the introduction of merely one more sexual partner (from 20% to 50%). It increases with every additional partner (although it dips just a little bit with three compared to two, which is odd).
Correlation does not equal causation.
Before no-fault divorce, and the reducing of the stigma, it was almost a death sentence for women to divorce an abusive husband. When I was growing up, women could not own property or have credit on their own--they had to get the permission of their husband (or father). Women were largely held as property in the early 20th century. Women who are virgins when they marry would most likely come from conservative religious backgrounds where the stigma of divorce is still strong.
