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I can see the reasoning behind his choice to put any further updates behind a USD2000 paywall and of course any developer can do what they like with their product, but this is still the wrong way to go about it.

Games like Being a DIK are big not just because of the quality but the reputation built with their past games.

Quality will always eventually come through, but if you destroy your reputation by essentially pouting and abandoning your game, you'll never get anywhere. Sometimes you just have to pull through a drought and come out successful on the other side.

I'd be your patron. You deserve it. But not like this.
 

somebodynobody

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Maybe someone could recommend it to be in the game front page slider of F95.

I agree with most people the game looks great, I would say it is probably top 5 in scene composition.

However without him doing way better marketing, and trades with other devs, etc. He will never hit that goal. Also he shouldn't be throwing his whole life out the window to make the game, he should be taking time for himself, an extra few weeks or month on an update so he isn't killing himself making it alone.
 
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I guess I know the reason of the poor grade of the game.
I just compare the results of "primal instinct" and "unleashed", and found that the sponsorship of "unleashed" exceeded 1K. Comparing the two games, the progress of the game is similar and the quality(Including character design, character art) of the game is similar. In terms of plot, "Primal Instinct" has more depth. Why are the scores so different? I think that's because the plot of Primal Instinct unfolds too slowly. Especially in the beginning with Meghan, there was so much ambiguity. This has led to the loss of many players.
 

Wutzel

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After long time I forgot that I played this one and I see "ahhh upd:D", I started it from beginning because I dont know after the time what is going on. Then I forget that ugly piece of shit "BLAKE" :mad: that I hated "it" so much, when this fuckers has say that shit to me at the airport to my mom, sister and me I have only say one more word and you will never walk and eat and drink out a feeding cup till your damn end of youe loosy life. The next scene was upset me bit is with that whore "Hannah" she look realy cute, but this piece of garbage is guilt that a wonderfull caring person like the sister get on a very awful path, like in rl what happend with one of my school friend, what ends with total addict of drugs. She has to be much more spine and tell her a few things, but want work for her right now how she is in that l:love:vely innocent girl. But I hope that "my" sister turn her around on the good way to a nice caring female person again, and I hope not the other way happend to "my" adorable sister:sneaky:.
 

Sorrow85

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Billing for July has been paused. Which means current patrons won't be charged at the beginning of next month.

There is no option to turn charge upfront off for potential new patrons. So if anyone decides to pledge after the next update drops, treat it as a pledge for the work that's already gone into the project, knowing that further development on the project depends on if there's enough support.

The update will be out soon-ish.
 

Sorrow85

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everything has been pretty much elaborated here regarding his decision to let it all down the drain.
Although I dreamed of but hopefully sometimes continue to develop.
The next game wouldn’t have a wife/or serious relationship right at the beginning.

Like Where It All Began game with miru but in that case it was good to be able to resign from her.
For some reason, my moral compass doesn’t let me act otherwise.
And this of course depends on the game, if I don’t care about the story or the characters, I just fuck everything that moves
 

Ayhsel

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Although I dreamed of but hopefully sometimes continue to develop.
The next game wouldn’t have a wife/or serious relationship right at the beginning.

Like Where It All Began game with miru but in that case it was good to be able to resign from her.
For some reason, my moral compass doesn’t let me act otherwise.
And this of course depends on the game, if I don’t care about the story or the characters, I just fuck everything that moves
Thing is the hit mark he set up. The example you mentioned, Where It all Began, is not making $2000. In fact, Ocean had to get another job to pay for the taxes/administrations fees related to regulations bla bla bla that those less than $2000 dollars a month implied in his status as a independent worker (don't remember the details, something like a re-categorization and bla bla bla).
The point is that even in another setting it is very probable he would not make $2000. I mentioned several times that I don't understand this market, with terrible stuff making fortune (like, really out of the world shit) and real gems barely getting supported. He is very talented and I am convinced that he can make a VN to live on this, but it is not a realistic expectation to assume it will be the case, unless you know exactly what kind of VN the market wants. Some seem to have a better sense for that, apparently.
Besides, he needs to get a reputation for himself. Badik is not doing as well as it is doing by its own merit, it is the reputation earned in Acting Lessons that pushed it in the beginning.

Long story short: most devs can only think about this as a hobby. If his mindset is this as a job, having a more conventional job is a better choice almost always, specially without reputation.
 
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I have some issues:

1. Our honeymooners are boring to follow. All the dialogue between them is sexual innuendo, which would be fine if this was a normal bang-the-babes-simulator, which it clearly isn't.
I know nothing about these people to begin with, I couldn't describe either of their personalities without it sounding generic. Usually the characters in these games are set up this way so that the player's varied choices can have satisfying result without making the MC too inconsistent.
During their parts I was also constantly on alert for signs of rape, corruption or cheating since that seemed to be the general vibe here, Misha and Samara scenes in particular. A lot of this is simply the baggage that is what we have come to expect from these NSFW VNs but that should be taken into account when making these games. Which leads me into...

2. Where all this is going was made very unclear, and when it comes to fetishes the importance of clarity rapidly increases proportionally to how much investment is expected on the part of the players.
When we're spanking the monkey we can simply skip or opt out of our turn-offs, but now you want us to care about characters, to be personally and emotionally invested in them, you want us to judge them and like them.
We can tolerate each other's kinks here in the interest of politeness, but in reality the difference in kinks represent an irreconcilable difference in fundamental philosophy and values; what this means is that by a character engaging in a certain kink you've just made that character completely unrelatable to many.
Considering how wild and varied the shape of kinks, tags won't be enough, which leads me to...

3. The incredible lack of choices. I get that this is more a novel than a game, but adding small dialogue choices would not only give you a chance to foreshadow where the story might go, but also allow the player to exert some control over what kind of person the MC is, but here we have virtually no options but a standard blank slate MC. The end result is that the player feels like a passenger to a catatonic driver. The MC is commonly written like an avatar for the player in these games, hence the POV and features like renaming the MC, but in this game not only did the player not have any control, but it didn't seem like the MC himself had any more agency himself.
In the end, it's harder to care if you can't make choices and the protagonist makes choices you don't agree with.
Options could have been aesthetic, serving to demonstrate personality or sense of humor rather than being integral to the plot or game-changing in any way.

4. Too much wood, too little fire. I don't mind slow-burns, but smaller arcs and dilemmas to resolve while you build up your story helps keep the player invested when the main plot is still just a seedling whose biggest mystery is what will sprout from it.
It als feels like this game takes place during the wrong time in the MCs life, as what has happened so far could be whittled down to one or two paragraphs in the opening title of the mystery game to follow or in the first part of the third act of a bittersweet romance game. Segway to...

5. Who are all these people? The game starts right away with several characters dealing with either drastic changes in their lives or identity crises, which would be great if we had any sense of what foundations are being rocked or what kinds of wounds or scars have been torn up, an acceptable way to deal with this is having characters interact with each other and letting their dynamics and changes therein reflect what's going on in their heads.
So far I only like Hannah, which says a lot since I generally despise slutty or decadent characters, but since she is the only character whose situation I can understand, she is the only one I have the slightest empathy for.

About the characters:

Hannah feels, and more terrifyingly, is unloved by everyone, including the ones who love her. Her persona is entirely built on rebellion, and while it is a very unrealistic expression of rebellion for her character, I can at least empathize with what she feels and why.

The Newlyweds have, as mentioned above, no personality beyond sexual innuendo and sub-par banter, and no visible conflict to face. All their problems can be resolved by moving honeymoon, but that will resolve itself naturally since their only problem is an ominous atmosphere mainly visible to only the player, and a very creepy hotel owner who has taken an equally creepy and inexplicable interest in the newlyweds. The one personality trait we have seen from the newlyweds is that they are a normal monogamous couple with, relative to porn, vanilla tastes. One would expect them to politely decline Misha's invitations based on his many red flags, but oh well, we don't care much about them anyway since their relevance to the plot is just as dubious as everyone else's.

Alex, Alex, Alex. Are you a lamb or a lioness? Does it matter? So far her brother who she loves has left her and she's not dealing well, like, at all with it. But that might just be an excuse to set her on a corruption path thinly veiled as 'discovering her sexuality', since I have no idea what she was like before this change. She gives me the distinct impression of a patsy, someone who goes along with anything. Weak-willed and no foundational values, does not a likeable person make, which further underscores the importance of showing what she was like before the MC left.

Sandra is lonely, fair enough we've all been there, but I think her screentime could have been better utilized to show the issues affecting her kids, allowing their arcs to establish themselves and develop. At some point there the fires will be too numerous and you just decide to let it all burn.

Big Sister, I don't really know or care.

Blake, don't like him, I suspect I will like him less in the future. I also suspect that the MC will be far more forgiving than I would be after Blake's inevitable redeeming moment.


You'll notice that my complaints are singular in focus, that's because this is a beautiful game. I have no doubts that this dev is highly competent and talented and I'm keeping an eye on this game for the next years.
I hope my critique comes across as constructive as intended, I'm obviously no writer myself.
 

New Kid

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What, the game can't end yet, they didn't even get to play truth or dare or spin the bottle yet!!! This just isn't right!!!




Lol, seriously now, I'm sad to see this game die so prematurely, it had a lot of potential but I guess the REALLY slow burn doesn't appeal to most of the people, and the fact that the MC is isolated from a lot of other potential love interests probably doesn't help either.
 

yoshkine

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Second pic is just exemplary. Visualized puffiness and skin are intriguing shameful. A real organ to satisfy.. Hard.. I mean it must've been a hard work. Thank you dev, now I believe in 3d
 

DrakteisckyG

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Dec 8, 2018
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I just discovered this game... and now I am very sad.

Yes the story should be more focused on what it want to tell but some ambition is what most of the games on this forum lack.
I also can see a problem in the fact that there are few choices and the relation between the MC and Meghan is so loveable that this it's more like a romantic novel than a porn game... but I loved it.

The writing is solid and the renders are some of the best I ever seen. Whatever the Dev decide to do in the future I hope we will not lose his talent.
 
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