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TamaMountain

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Just found out about this game and played it despite knowing it was abandoned.

Gotta say it has some of the hottest asians in a 3D game i've played so far. Lawan especially but Mei is hot too.

Any recommendations for games with asian hotties :giggle:?
 

Look-see

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Aug 19, 2018
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Just found out about this game and played it despite knowing it was abandoned.

Gotta say it has some of the hottest asians in a 3D game i've played so far. Lawan especially but Mei is hot too.

Any recommendations for games with asian hotties :giggle:?
hard to think of something right off the bat. but "Elysion" has one and renders are above average/good. still early in development. i'll be honest though i remember it easier compared to other games since i became a patron for that game so i might be biased.
 
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TamaMountain

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hard to think of something right off the bat. but "Elysion" has one and renders are above average/good. still early in development. i'll be honest though i remember it easier compared to other games since i became a patron for that game so i might be biased.
thanks for the quick reply! looks to me that the asian girl is the one with short hair?

will have to check it out :giggle:.
 

Look-see

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thanks for the quick reply! looks to me that the asian girl is the one with short hair?

will have to check it out :giggle:.
yup dark hair and runny make up on previews. scenes change a bit depending on choice. seems like a good first release.

aaaaand that's probably all i can say here before comment gets deleted for being in the wrong thread:sneaky:
 
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seekin4porn

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It's a shame this game was abandoned but the dev has another project in the oven so we might see some more of his stellar work in the future
 

manman232

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Feb 19, 2018
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OH LOOK he updated the production. so he does listen. That's at least a good sight. at 300 a month 15 days will be production in that month. Though it does say that if there is little interest it will be cancelled again. Sooooo that's unfortunate. Though the patreon is close to 200 atm IDK how much production that will be. Primal was still a missed opportunity.
 

yihman1

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May 11, 2017
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This games saga saddens me. It wasn't perfect, no game is perfect, but it was a great game. The story was original. The renders were beautiful, and the characters were interesting and diverse. The pacing was not bad either. It branched and had variables and wasn't buggy nor was it in engrish.

I think the main reason why it did not get the sort of support that it could have was mainly due to three things. Two in game elements, and one real world element.

Real world element: Covid Shutdown... People are broke and the porn budget isn't at that high on the list when they need food and shelter, but the government is like "No, you must close absolutely everything and wear a face diaper indefinitely because grandma might get sick!"

In game element 1 : The fact that half of the female love interests are not on the same continent as the protagonist other than saying goodbye at the start of the game to them. I know the story revolves around that fact and eventually they would reunite and eventually kinky fun would happen with them, but because they are so far away they dont' feel like they are a part of the main plot no matter how much they are on the phone or in a dream.

In game element 2: The game is written more so for an "intelligent player" than for a "coomer". If you want to sit down and spank the monkey this is probably not the best game for that in spite of the nice renders and some good sex scenes. The subtext elements are very deep and make you think a bit plus it has this aura of mystery that get you more thinking than horny. I'm not saying this is totally a bad thing, but I think some of the writing goes over too many people's heads so they can not fully appreciate the game. If it was dumbed down a little bit then I think it would have been more popular.

The fact of the matter is that the market is not always fair when it comes to adult games. Dark Cookie makes Summertime Saga which is a fine game indeed, and I'm not going to knock that game. Yet Dark Cookie alone is making more money (over three times more money) than Eva Kiss, Mr Dots, Decent Monkey, Lust & Passion, and RK Studios combined (Creators of Dating my daughter, sunshine love, Radiant, a wife and mother, fashion business, good girl gone bad, our red string, melody and maybe some other game I missed?) Is there anyone out, even the most die hard Sumemertime Sage fan, that would say that this game is better by more than 3 times than all of these other games combined... doubt very many would agree to that.

The Invisible Hand of the Market is largely luck based, and can be rather cruel to some while rewarding others. The man who invented the pet rock made millions of dollars. It's a fucking rock... he didn't even super glue googly eyes on them or anything and just put them in a box and made millions of dollars.

It just so happens that this creator did not have good luck on his side. He rolled the dice and he lost. It can be very expensive in assets, hardware, electricity, and opportunity lost creating a game. 99% of game creators would be better off flipping burgers if they want to make a few bucks. Sad fact of the business.

I do appreciate that the developer has been upfront and honest about his dissatisfaction with a lack of support, and I'm sure if you asked the vast majority of game developers they would think that they are not making enough money, and that I'm sure is one of the main reasons why games are so often abandoned. So, I applaud the man in being genuine and honest, but at the same time I think to myself... Dude that's suicide from a marketing perspective. People will take his protest in not getting adequate pay as greed when he admits his game was being made at a loss. He will come off as "entitled" for wanting to make a few bucks creating something. People will take it as "You are holding the game ransom".

If your goal is 2,000 and you are making $300 a month you don't go "I need 2,000 now or I'm taking my ball and going home!" You put that bar to 500 then get it to there then you maybe bump that up to 1,000 then when you get there you bump it up to 1,500 or maybe even 2,000. It's like he was trying to take too many steps at once. Finess it up a little bit at a time step by step baby steps.

So people are going to shit on the guy, and the guy is probably not going to get much support but at the same time keep in mind it's a struggling industry that barely makes any money except for a few of the lucky ones at the top, and the time and skills that go into making a high quality game are great.

I wish the guy luck, and it would be awesome if he eventually came back to complete this game but it doesn't look good.
 

HueyFreeman32

Member
Jun 3, 2018
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This games saga saddens me. It wasn't perfect, no game is perfect, but it was a great game. The story was original. The renders were beautiful, and the characters were interesting and diverse. The pacing was not bad either. It branched and had variables and wasn't buggy nor was it in engrish.

I think the main reason why it did not get the sort of support that it could have was mainly due to three things. Two in game elements, and one real world element.

Real world element: Covid Shutdown... People are broke and the porn budget isn't at that high on the list when they need food and shelter, but the government is like "No, you must close absolutely everything and wear a face diaper indefinitely because grandma might get sick!"

In game element 1 : The fact that half of the female love interests are not on the same continent as the protagonist other than saying goodbye at the start of the game to them. I know the story revolves around that fact and eventually they would reunite and eventually kinky fun would happen with them, but because they are so far away they dont' feel like they are a part of the main plot no matter how much they are on the phone or in a dream.

In game element 2: The game is written more so for an "intelligent player" than for a "coomer". If you want to sit down and spank the monkey this is probably not the best game for that in spite of the nice renders and some good sex scenes. The subtext elements are very deep and make you think a bit plus it has this aura of mystery that get you more thinking than horny. I'm not saying this is totally a bad thing, but I think some of the writing goes over too many people's heads so they can not fully appreciate the game. If it was dumbed down a little bit then I think it would have been more popular.

The fact of the matter is that the market is not always fair when it comes to adult games. Dark Cookie makes Summertime Saga which is a fine game indeed, and I'm not going to knock that game. Yet Dark Cookie alone is making more money (over three times more money) than Eva Kiss, Mr Dots, Decent Monkey, Lust & Passion, and RK Studios combined (Creators of Dating my daughter, sunshine love, Radiant, a wife and mother, fashion business, good girl gone bad, our red string, melody and maybe some other game I missed?) Is there anyone out, even the most die hard Sumemertime Sage fan, that would say that this game is better by more than 3 times than all of these other games combined... doubt very many would agree to that.

The Invisible Hand of the Market is largely luck based, and can be rather cruel to some while rewarding others. The man who invented the pet rock made millions of dollars. It's a fucking rock... he didn't even super glue googly eyes on them or anything and just put them in a box and made millions of dollars.

It just so happens that this creator did not have good luck on his side. He rolled the dice and he lost. It can be very expensive in assets, hardware, electricity, and opportunity lost creating a game. 99% of game creators would be better off flipping burgers if they want to make a few bucks. Sad fact of the business.

I do appreciate that the developer has been upfront and honest about his dissatisfaction with a lack of support, and I'm sure if you asked the vast majority of game developers they would think that they are not making enough money, and that I'm sure is one of the main reasons why games are so often abandoned. So, I applaud the man in being genuine and honest, but at the same time I think to myself... Dude that's suicide from a marketing perspective. People will take his protest in not getting adequate pay as greed when he admits his game was being made at a loss. He will come off as "entitled" for wanting to make a few bucks creating something. People will take it as "You are holding the game ransom".

If your goal is 2,000 and you are making $300 a month you don't go "I need 2,000 now or I'm taking my ball and going home!" You put that bar to 500 then get it to there then you maybe bump that up to 1,000 then when you get there you bump it up to 1,500 or maybe even 2,000. It's like he was trying to take too many steps at once. Finess it up a little bit at a time step by step baby steps.

So people are going to shit on the guy, and the guy is probably not going to get much support but at the same time keep in mind it's a struggling industry that barely makes any money except for a few of the lucky ones at the top, and the time and skills that go into making a high quality game are great.

I wish the guy luck, and it would be awesome if he eventually came back to complete this game but it doesn't look good.
Excellent statement and thought piece here. We need this to be laminated or put into a thought museum. This was very informative and refreshing to read . Hopefully everyone who enjoyed this game and the creator themselves see this
 

JB08

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Aug 6, 2016
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Dev has a new game hes working on according to his patreon post. But he wants 600 bucks for V1 release, 1200 for V2 release, 1600 for V3 release and 1600 bucks for V4 and all future releases until completion.

:sneaky:
 

myuhinny

Devoted Member
Sep 7, 2017
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Well I doubt that one will ever get made. I wonder if they are going to walk in bright sun studios foot steps? Upload a game if it doesn't make what they want abandon it upload a new one and repeat till everyone gets tired of it and then start making alt accounts and uploading more games.
 

manman232

Newbie
Feb 19, 2018
83
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As everyone was telling him from the start, changing the project won't help him get more supporters. What gains supporters are updates and interactions. Now his patrons are slowly decreasing. It's almost $150 now. I still hope he revives this project before all his patreon goes away for good. And if he could stop making too much of a demand for updates that would be an amazing redemption story.
 

Euron13

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Apr 7, 2019
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This should be a wake up call for him, but I get the impression he’ll continue to be obstinate. He truly believes he’s putting out the best quality adult game out right now, which...maybe visually he’s up there, but as storyteller he’s incredibly flawed and that’s why Primal Instinct didn’t catch on as quickly as he wanted.
 

manman232

Newbie
Feb 19, 2018
83
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This should be a wake up call for him, but I get the impression he’ll continue to be obstinate. He truly believes he’s putting out the best quality adult game out right now, which...maybe visually he’s up there, but as storyteller he’s incredibly flawed and that’s why Primal Instinct didn’t catch on as quickly as he wanted.
I do agree that visually the renders are pretty good. The writing is at least deeper than most games. Pacing was nice, the game is not just "pick a pervy answer and get rewards" or pervsim as some people call it. The setting I think is a very big problem. I think 3 or 4 people that you can have sexual relations are on different countries. which really limits it. I still think communication is a huge part. I have been following a game called Monster Girl Dreams since the patreon was only $100 I think. The best thing about that game is that the Dev had a discord where players shared their thought on how to balance the game. New ideas, now storylines or character development. even an amazing mod community that the Dev helps with. Even for just a simple text-based game. With the communication and updates and seeing what fans want he is now at $1700 a month and uses it to commission art and music for the game. I just hope that kind of work structure was with this kind of game.
 
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