I dont realy get it...is this a new game, or a total rewamp of the game we already know? Soit wont be a base secure game but instead a ship base survival thing?
Unreal Engine Project Extermination: Operation GroundZeroes [Phase 2 - 2023-07-16] [MATEYDEV]
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Exactly, he need be tossed a cold bucket of reality, i want to clear, he is a huge talented dev if not the best i ever know when working in a game of such quality near by himself, but the reality in open worlds in indie games is dire when competing with AAA games (funny they either arent having their best time) and near all of them end in the one dollar indie package in winter sales.
We understand due rules in his country, patreon and Steam or whatever platform he uses to release his project he needs to adjust to them, creating a base game without Adult content is fine but:
1.- this isnt anymore the thing it was promised at the beginning to patreons who supported financially his game.
2.- " but he is going to separate the game from the Porn content to avoid legal issues when releasing the game" i agree with this, is a great move to avoid legal problems however..
3.- He is vaguely giving us an understanding he stopped completely the Adult development to be added as Mod later but correct me if im wrong: There has been no confirmation that he will personally create the mod, but implying that others (modders and fans) are the ones who are going to make the adult content (very unlikely).
All this "drama" could have been avoided if he or his team showed some adult content of the mod to be released in the future, like "hey look guys this is a preview of the Adult content which i am working to be released as a mod when the game is released" he dont need to post it on patreon to avoid the porn label, but in discord/twitter or other platform.
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At the start, he wanted to make a porn game, but he's a beginner in game development industry, and so he asked for help in game developers community but he got rejected by many developers because of his will to make a porn game and they don't want to involve in his game development. After that, he tried to get help from the NSFW game developers community but this community isn't as big as the normal one, so he decided to make a game like Skyrim, and when the game is finished or nearly finished to start the NSFW alternative content as mods or let other people develop it.
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I know I'm going to sound like a hysterical psycho when I say this but this is known as a "bait and switch." Maybe the dev had no intention to do it, but it's a bait and switch. IMO he either should have finished what he started or he should have refunded his supporters their money and given them the option to give their support for his change in direction.
Imagine what would happen if CIG announced that Star Citizen was no longer going to be an immersive space sim but a standard MOBA like LoL or DOTA after years of fund raising.
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If Mato still intends on adding NSFW content himself, then he really needs to drop this whole "Just look at Skyrim and Fallout" crap he's been pushing.
"Modders will fix it" is supposed to be a joke, not your plan for game development.
I've read a few of his responses to the comments on the recent Patreon post. I don't know if he has his terminology right or not. The NSFW content won't be a mod but 'a DLC'. Are we paying for the NSFW part now? I can't imagine anybody so concerned with if their game will sell well or not on Steam is completely unaware of the implications of calling something a 'DLC' and not a 'mod'. DLC usually implies a cost. Mod does not.
I mean, 'Just look at Skyrim and Fallout,' people make NSFW mods not NSFW DLCs.
I don't want to dogpile him if he's just using the incorrect terminology, but it's confusing as shit and lends credence to the 'bait and switch' and 'scam' accusations.
"Modders will fix it" is supposed to be a joke, not your plan for game development.
I've read a few of his responses to the comments on the recent Patreon post. I don't know if he has his terminology right or not. The NSFW content won't be a mod but 'a DLC'. Are we paying for the NSFW part now? I can't imagine anybody so concerned with if their game will sell well or not on Steam is completely unaware of the implications of calling something a 'DLC' and not a 'mod'. DLC usually implies a cost. Mod does not.
I mean, 'Just look at Skyrim and Fallout,' people make NSFW mods not NSFW DLCs.
I don't want to dogpile him if he's just using the incorrect terminology, but it's confusing as shit and lends credence to the 'bait and switch' and 'scam' accusations.
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What the hell are you talking about? He said that he will do all the content, including NSFW one (just after finishing the core part of the game) as separate DLC in case if someone might wanna stream the game or smtn. He never said that he's going to make some unfinished piece of shit and it's up to modders fix that. He just want to make game somewhat as big as Fallout or Skyrim + actual mods support. I mean it's ambitiuous, but from his posts on Patreon looks pretty real so far.
Then he chose a bad comparison with Skyrim or Fallout, lol
'I want the scope/scale to be like that of Skyrim/Fallout, a big, studio-sized release. We're also planning for official modding tools so people can add their own mods,' he says, while comparing his game to two of the most infamously janky/buggy games that people commonly say to 'fix with mods.'
So, again, is it a DLC or is it a mod? One assumes a price, one does not. If the plan is for it to be a free addition post-release, then we really should be sticking with calling it a mod or a patch.
If the intention is to label it as a DLC, then people are going to assume there will be a purchase involved.
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Ever heard a term "Free DLC"? No? Feels like not.
No one holds you by the throat that you must buy this game. So why you so mad about it? When it comes in some playable form - download it from here for free. If it's good - it's up to you to buy it or not. If it's easier for dev to compare his game with Skyrim of Fallout rather than MGS V (actually to which it's looks more similar btw), then he means that it's gonna be a big mostly seamless world with a lot of stuff to do. I doubt that he meant what seems to be the only thing you expecting from this game for some weird reason - a broken mess that needs fixing.
Btw, English is not his native language as far as I know...
Neither, it will be a sequel. Completely different genre, like colony-sim or RTS with isometric perspective, open for funding on Patreon. Just like the game before... And the game before the game that was before... Ehhh, this multiverse of corrupted hard drives makes my head spin.
But honestly, considering the track record of a dev, who didn't finish a single game he started due to "mysterious circumstances", I'm surprised people took the bait of another "AAA" level game that is destined to A: Be a milking cow; B: Become abandoned the moment people stop paying for it :/
Ever heard the word 'disingenuous'? No? Feels like not.
Find me a list of people who's first thought is 'free' when they hear 'DLC' and i'll find you a much, much longer list of people who think 'paid' when they hear 'DLC'. First impressions are important, and using a word that is synonymous with 'spend money' is going to turn people away, even if it's meant to be free.
Get outta here with that lmao
Yeah i'm just gonna take the L on this one and move on. When an internet argument devolves into 'why you so mad about it', nobody looks good.
Do agree with some of the other commenters here, though. If the NSFW part of the game is genuinely still being worked on, teasers, WIPs, something, would go a long way for keeping people interested. Especially considering the forum we're on.
What a game starts out as and what it ends up being upon release may not necessarily be the same thing, ideas evolve and/or are abandoned either due to impracticality, "artistic differences" or other reasons.
Not to make a false equation for this game compared to say... Fallout 4 [I mean, it works for earlier FO games but I digress], it's a complete [opinions differ here, boo] game but I've got it modded six ways till sunday and some of them include nsfw mods.
There's a whole host of variables at play sure [ie: Bethesda being a known quantity as well as the IP itself] but a game can survive and thrive as a 'dubiously' SFW game and also be mod-friendly enough to lewd that absolute heck out of it.
EDIT: After reading Matey's latest progress post I see I've unwittingly parroted much of what he said himself, while I am disappointed that the game will be quite light on the NSFW a much longer time than previously anticipated ---the base game itself has lots of potential, though the "story" seems to fit a similar vein to either Grounded or Subnautica in that there's no 'overarching plot' per se other than your own individual experience and, in the latter case, working on getting a ship constructed to get off planet which was fun the first time though I haven't replayed Subnautica since so idk what the replayability will be like for this game.
Not to make a false equation for this game compared to say... Fallout 4 [I mean, it works for earlier FO games but I digress], it's a complete [opinions differ here, boo] game but I've got it modded six ways till sunday and some of them include nsfw mods.
There's a whole host of variables at play sure [ie: Bethesda being a known quantity as well as the IP itself] but a game can survive and thrive as a 'dubiously' SFW game and also be mod-friendly enough to lewd that absolute heck out of it.
EDIT: After reading Matey's latest progress post I see I've unwittingly parroted much of what he said himself, while I am disappointed that the game will be quite light on the NSFW a much longer time than previously anticipated ---the base game itself has lots of potential, though the "story" seems to fit a similar vein to either Grounded or Subnautica in that there's no 'overarching plot' per se other than your own individual experience and, in the latter case, working on getting a ship constructed to get off planet which was fun the first time though I haven't replayed Subnautica since so idk what the replayability will be like for this game.
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Me: Patiently waiting for the Steam release, and link to the naughty expansion/mods. ^_^
[x] I am in this picture and I don't like it.
dont worry! alket and tomwhoever will leave wonderful comments defending him! dont worry! hes the best dev ever! dont worry! just keep sending money and say nice things and in 10 years, he will finally release a porn game!
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Here we go again, another game following the same path as Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft
He said welcome to the game development world where AAA game took 5 to 10 years to finish.
In the same time we got Japanese releasing indie NSFW games yearly that plays better than so called "AAA" he mentioned.
He said welcome to the game development world where AAA game took 5 to 10 years to finish.
In the same time we got Japanese releasing indie NSFW games yearly that plays better than so called "AAA" he mentioned.
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Thx for pointing it out..so i can ignore the thread..
not bcs hes korean..but cos nothing "good" will happen for this game.
Steam is full of Asian fakeR18 clickbait games.
They should ban mosts asians devs from using the sexual content tag
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The last game ProjectElimination was a side scroller that looked and played very well, the H component worked great, but he broke the disk and cancelled it, very much in vain
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Yo, sorry if I don't answer some question, but I've muted a bunch of people and just now that DustyX has quoted (thanks for that, I guess...) I see that there was a trolling rant going on and I will not be bothered to read it.
I've already said and transcribed here all that you need to know regarding development, all the latest progression updates are free on Patreon for anyone to see, refer to those if you have doubts or ping me with meaningful questions if you can't find answers and can't be bothered to join Discord.
TLDR: he hopes to launch the Steam page by the end of the year, release a mostly SFW version for the large distribution and have all porn nested into a mod to avoid bullshit and bans from platforms, nothing has changed from that.
On a different note: potential legal and global distribution concerns aside, Matto decided to move away from adult community because of how much he was pressured and harassed by F95 users (both here and on Discord), if you want to know why he decided to tone down those themes, look in the mirror, he doesn't want to interact with these communities any more than he needs to.
He might come off as petty to u, but I understand him completely, I've almost reached my own limit of tolerance on many occasions and I'd like to avoid wasting my time.
I've already said and transcribed here all that you need to know regarding development, all the latest progression updates are free on Patreon for anyone to see, refer to those if you have doubts or ping me with meaningful questions if you can't find answers and can't be bothered to join Discord.
TLDR: he hopes to launch the Steam page by the end of the year, release a mostly SFW version for the large distribution and have all porn nested into a mod to avoid bullshit and bans from platforms, nothing has changed from that.
On a different note: potential legal and global distribution concerns aside, Matto decided to move away from adult community because of how much he was pressured and harassed by F95 users (both here and on Discord), if you want to know why he decided to tone down those themes, look in the mirror, he doesn't want to interact with these communities any more than he needs to.
He might come off as petty to u, but I understand him completely, I've almost reached my own limit of tolerance on many occasions and I'd like to avoid wasting my time.