VN Ren'Py Abandoned Project SAGE [Act 1 v0.19d] [Paperwork]

[Evilko]

putting my dick into a paper shredder

Hmm... i think i found a new fetish for me

 

[Ignazzio]

I never said it will be midway. Don't worry, @Ignazzio

So there's nothing else but to wish you luck. Tbh by that time maybe something better will come up. DAZ is extremaly inefficient. There is no game with DAZ with even half of choices and branching you have. But it has certainly potential in a future.

 

[Evilko]

There is no game with DAZ with even half of choices and branching you have.

I think it is not a problem of DAZ, but of developer.
paperwork is just too good, or insane, or both

 

[atlas114]

i can only imagine what he would be able to create if he was able to do this full time.

 

[Latecomer]

I now understand the reasons for why he wants to do it, they make sense to me in context, and that's coming from someone who hates daz

I recommend not discussing this topic any further because it will take a long time before it will become relevant and because it doesn't have any direct impact on the game as we know and love it

Trust me on this one

 

[Nelythia]

Well, I will stay worried until we actually see the first release of the DAZ version in 2+ years. But I trusted paperwork so far and will continue to do so. I just don't want to be disappointed, because this is seriously my favorite game on here and I have seen other great games fail miserably when they decided to do something that changed everything around the game drastically.

 

[partywatch]

yeah, 2+ years in the future, its a long time.
the last render is good, and it will not be the last one, there will be more until its as good it can be, Amy v2.0
if Daz/Blender/Etc are needed to progress the story, I will not try to say no, sometimes we need to change to be able to move forward, even if it means obstacles.
and about renders, in 2 years the gpu will be twice as fast as the one we have now.

Just wonderful this mess! Four times paperwork waist his time for . Your advice " to change sometimes and be able to move forward ? Sounds like a turtle to change his direction in 2 years".

1. If you know the games for a PC and there engine not only " porn-games", then you " maybe" know we get a new game next year but the latest Win10 can´t play this because there behind this new engine, but it will add soon in windows. Forecast 2 years, you can say anything like a turtle, I´ll run for it.

I hope that paperwork spend his time for the story and update 1.8. Give this forum a rest to recover from DAZ images.

Or another 10 or more images appears and we have the " Never ending story " game here.

You and The Bloody-Nine can make a FAN-PAGE as other great games. To keep peace hereor a DAZ Fan page.

 

[Creeping Death]

It's the lack of detail, it's what people will think if you aren't specific about why such a shift is taking place. It's the doctor walking in the room and saying they've scheduled you for surgery but without telling you why beyond a "trust me." Reason could be good but skepticism is warranted because of the way they're doing it.

The problem is I shared the images send by paperwork to his patrons. So this whole discussion and bad vibes are my fault.

I should have known better since discussions here on f95 always become toxic earlier or later (enough threads show that). So I will not post any more progress update on the Daz Amy model here to keep the discussion on his patreon site.

I don't want to see the dev in this thread here justify himself for this and that, which led in many other threads to one point. The dev is not around any longer! If PW says his vision for Ch.3 cannot be achieved with HS and he needs to switch because of technical reasons I believe him, he got more than enough credit! So better get helpful, helping him with constructive feedback to create the best possible Amy in Daz!

 

[EdPokol]

I should have known better since discussions here on f95 always become toxic earlier or later (enough threads show that).

Noticed that too. Would that be because of people feeling safe behind their anonymous identity? Irl toxicity easily fires back.

I feel every dev is free to create what they want, justification is never needed. That is how we get many different creations (and beauties like Amy and delicious games like Project Sage).

 

[ray3dave]

Hmm... i think i found a new fetish for me

Be warned, you can not do this very often, and if you get addicted you will suffer heavily!

 

[BeardedJack]

Still loving the daz model, the only small concern for me is that she doesnt remind me of Amy, maybe its just the hair color thats too dark, idk. Anyways im sure when the moment will arrive you'll figure out everything.

 

[BruceLee73]

This is happening again...Whenever a DAZ image is shared here, the talks about a backfire, losing support and my intentions about earning more money is brought up. I am spending nearly all my free time on this and have a plan. The last act will be in DAZ. Because it will be worth it. You can believe me or not. I just want to share what story I have in my mind for Amy. Please stop judging my intentions. It's rude.

I feel like hugging you. I know how tiring it feels when (numerous) people criticize stuff they havent even seen yet or ignore already shared information. Its stressfull.
One could also say these people simply fear losing something they really came to care about (and we know fear makes people go really nuts sometimes, especially on the internet)

Try to focus on the stuff that helps you improve and try to ignore the rest. And please dont forget YOU are your first customer! Your game has to please you first, storywise just as much as art/design. Go for it.

As for myself, I am impressed by the new MC-Version. I am waiting in anticipation for the new thing.
Of course I also see some potential to improve, but I also have no doubt these improvements will come anyway (in one way or another).

YOU are doing GREAT WORK and you are on the brink of a really fantastic upgrade. Continue !!!

 

[iainmore]

Changing engines= bad idea. Game dev was slowed because he made changes already. It is no way to get and keep Patreons.

 

[Locamenteloco]

This is MK 19, so the model I'll actually use will be MK 50 or something like that. Hair, make up and facial expressions change how the model's face look a lot in DAZ. At least, most of us agree that the body resembles HS Amy. The last 3 iterations were focused on her face. I'll be working on that. Regardless, later, I'll share her with hair looks like the on in PS and we can compare her features better.

As for her butt, I couldn't make it fuller in HS without making it significantly bigger (Although, I tweak it time to time. It got bigger since the first release). So, DAZ Amy will have a "fuller" butt.

When I eventually switch to DAZ, I don't think you will think like you do now about the engine change. We have a long way there, it won't happen soon and abruptly. I'm not done with the HS Amy yet.

About the number of images: I am anxiously waiting to see how 2x 3080ti's will perform in DAZ.

Can you please share some spoilers of V0.18?

 

[junkanon]

Spoiler: MK 20

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I think Amy is incredibly good looking in this new version, but she looks less smart and fun than before. I don't know exactly how to change this. Is there an image where she's more upright, paperwork?

I think her face is too thin, HS Amy's is kinda rounder. Like, her DAZ cheekbones are too pronounced, I guess.

One thing that I think should be kept the same is her tiny nipples. It's not proportional or anything, but it's really Amy's.

 

[Zangief86]

I think Amy is incredibly good looking in this new version, but she looks less smart and fun than before. I don't know exactly how to change this. Is there an image where she's more upright, paperwork?

I think her face is too thin, HS Amy's is kinda rounder. Like, her DAZ cheekbones are too pronounced, I guess.

One thing that I think should be kept the same is her tiny nipples. It's not proportional or anything, but it's really Amy's.

Good point. I would also take a look at the skintone. I believe Amy in HS has like perfekt rimplefree skin, while the DAZ version tries to imitate pores and stuff. That way the skin looks more realistic but also older. Is there a way to reduce the destortion of the skintone even more?

I think a lot of her charisma will change, when the hair is getting brown and pigtailed. And her Eyes are getting bigger. in the MK20 version she has sleepyeyes. really erotic, but not playfull courious like Amy would look.

 

[partywatch]

Whatever you try with DAZ you can´t get Amy back from HS and her face, we all fall in love during the game, otherwise you don´t have this great feedback.
You want to make her perfect butt bigger? We have enough gym girls in any game. The new Amy give already this impression to be one of many other girls with DAZ engine.

It´s NOT AMY how makes me worry about this change in MK20 or later. It´s all actors and the hard-core scene include the details of dick´s and pussy you have to change. No one will looking the same as before, you think we get the same feeling as before, wrong !

Maybe I see to many DAZ engine when the body´s start action´s. I prefer the h-scene from HS there is something " wild " in these animation and taboo22 show this in his games. With DAZ you belong to 1000 h-scene we seen already, but with HS you not seen all animation yet. We are in the same story with DAZ but never in the game with all new actors. The best Dev can´t sale these changes to be honest with him self.

The most important question left !
WHY ??? is this game bad NO, time left NO, looks everybody bad NO, to give a real view NO because you make unreal with new actors.
Then WHY ?? this competition between DAZ or HS or others engine ?

When it´s advertising or business then why in this game, there are better places to discuss this.

 

[nandesta]

Whatever you try with DAZ you can´t get Amy back from HS and her face, we all fall in love during the game, otherwise you don´t have this great feedback.
You want to make her perfect butt bigger? We have enough gym girls in any game. The new Amy give already this impression to be one of many other girls with DAZ engine.

How can you be so sure about it ? Are you presenting most of f95 netizen ? I bet you already done your own research about this sir . smiley face

Krappa

 

[baka]

its our right to say what we think but,
me? I think Daz is superior HS in render quality and diversity. the only concern that I have is the workload Daz will have compared to HS to make as many renders.
but, that doesnt matter much if Paperwork want to use Daz for act 3 and its final.
the only constructive way here, is to support his decision and make the best out of it.
give him good feedback and also trust in him.
I will give as much feedback possible for the models he will use, as of course I also want a good daz-amy.
is it impossible? of course not, Daz is superior but its not easy to make it look like her in HS, not only because its hard to match, but also because Daz is better and will show more details and with that make it look different. to make daz-amy like Hs we need to use a filter to smooth her body and thats ridiculous to do, but what we can do, is to make a daz-amy that is as good possible.
when we have that, I believe the Daz-Amy will be great.
after that, we will see, its +2 years in time so hard to predict anything, and I will try to not do that, instead focus on act 1.

so, again, to argue that Paperwork is doing wrong or bad decision will not change anything expect being rude to him and his work and his plans. he will not change because you are telling him that he is wrong, he already explained the reason. if you want to support Project Sage you should definitely understand that and give constructive feedback and believe in him.

 

[partywatch]

its our right to say what we think but,
me? I think Daz is superior HS in render quality and diversity. the only concern that I have is the workload Daz will have compared to HS to make as many renders.
but, that doesnt matter much if Paperwork want to use Daz for act 3 and its final.
the only constructive way here, is to support his decision and make the best out of it.
give him good feedback and also trust in him.
I will give as much feedback possible for the models he will use, as of course I also want a good daz-amy.
is it impossible? of course not, Daz is superior but its not easy to make it look like her in HS, not only because its hard to match, but also because Daz is better and will show more details and with that make it look different. to make daz-amy like Hs we need to use a filter to smooth her body and thats ridiculous to do, but what we can do, is to make a daz-amy that is as good possible.
when we have that, I believe the Daz-Amy will be great.
after that, we will see, its +2 years in time so hard to predict anything, and I will try to not do that, instead focus on act 1.

so, again, to argue that Paperwork is doing wrong or bad decision will not change anything expect being rude to him and his work and his plans. he will not change because you are telling him that he is wrong, he already explained the reason. if you want to support Project Sage you should definitely understand that and give constructive feedback and believe in him.

I don´t know that paperwork decide already to use DAZ for act 3. I agree 100% then to your points and my points make no sense anymore. I can´t help paperwork with DAZ engine, but I´m sure you get her close to it, include her body.

You think he get all actors close as well?? With all details,faces and body parts? Mr. Wilson and "Henry in Devin " both have huge dick´s and playing this part, in a funny way right now.
I´m worry that Patreon doing the same as there done with " College Life " that´s to big " The Dev have to change all images back in the game from DAZ, that isn´t funny! I don´t understand why there do this on DAZ and not here Wilson and Henry´s dick there much larger. Maybe Patreon don´t care now ?

I quest that´s not important at all and some other details. We can judge later after we see the experience of paperwork, to learn something.