yeah 17a is under control and aware
mean of under control is MC manage situations which encountered
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mean of under control is MC manage situations which encountered
well, there is a scene in 17a, quite at the beginning, where she falls asleep on a couch and could get raped with a cucumber even under the most conservative decisions, you can make for her and finally, she doesn't even realize, what happened. That is far from self aware and under control but rather totally naive. (I'm personally glad, that he left out this scene in 19d).
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I like a lot of scenes. As man above, Andrew and Paul, Paul exhibitionism scene, teasing in cafe... Old 0,17 has very revealing scene in cafe, where 2 clients groped Amy. Very sorry, rhqt new 0.19 version dont reach this point...
Nice scene on a beach with girl and 2 men, when they touch Amy.
And very hot scene on far beach with boys (day 14), when they put lotion/massage Amy and then she cuddle with them naked, agreed with touching...
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Bro,you false thinking.because if mc drink enough,dont raped with cucumber.options change everything.for example in 17a billiard scene look options.thats include for horny or for refuse.Other example to carry furniture want help from kids,in this scene MC clearly express yourself,exhibition hers tits the kids.In a word,everything under control of her.EVERYTHING HAS A PRICE
I also two scene which you said about,i loved but bro I think in beach scene i hoped seeing group sex but in19d unfortunately MC shy and irresolute,that kids also shy and coward
I just replayed it with the most lewd options for Amy, and that scene is inevitable (2nd scene with the boys on the couch. I don't count here the decisions of the guys you have to make, as those are not Amys). If it is for her personality, I would rather say, in 17a she is naive and more extrovert in the beginning. The decisions you make are all about how much sexual experiences she make (some are inevitable), but the overall personality doesn't change much. In 19d she starts rather thoughtful and shy. But she can make a transformation of personality to a more open person. That's why the game needs so long to come to lewd scenes. Your decisions don't change only the amount of her sexual experience, but also her personality, what is needed to get her on a rather lewd way or not.
But I think, there are also some continuation errors in both version in particular when you make more conservative decisions. In a quick conservative playthrough from 19d, I just got to a scene, where I put off an anal plug out of the blue (at least, I can't remember that it was put in, but I was running through really fast). In 17a there is definitely a continuation error, where she wakes up with the cucumber in her ass no matter, whether it was put in or not.
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Bro you are looking adverse.if you noticed that,MC doing doggy in front of their.in 17a mc is a slut characther.this event under control of her.mc want it,the boys do it.MC prepare that substurecture with person relatives.i think also gradually showing up her personality.last example is MC showing tits to carring furniture for kids but that kids want have sex with her or blackmail for exhibition in metro or bus.
Everything Under control of her because MC provide basis like this conditions.
Yeah i wanted double penetration ,3vs1 hardcore sex.maybe we can see in the next versions
The paths are very clear. First of all you can not compare 0.17 or 0.17 with o.19, because at 0.17 you have to give up a version that the artist has developed further. the old veriosn was simply stronger and there was not a big decision that gave auhc more possibilities basically 0.17 a simple yes no sole of the mc to have easy or not the weares already in .19d remak one should maybe still To say that the whole thing goes a little deeper with yes no maybe, so the route where you have to have yourself is not implated in the latest version, I think the developer wanted the game to deal with the game and everything an alternative route has also been seen by the donors, the players and those who are only too happy to have an opportunity this is like such a hit. And what difference is there between a battle and a game of luck? a fight is a fight and the personal ego gives many a challenge to win. Project sage is not a sipelel prone game where it's all about chasing the MC from one fuck scene to the next, regardless of whether the MC is female or male.
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Different routes,different choices.I liked this game.I think if its be male protogonist,this game wouldn't get that much attention
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Fem-pro is always the better!
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this is the same in 17a
but I like porno games... in the 19d the developer followed to much the donors suggestions and result was that he abandoned this game and the 17a is the complete story of Amy as the Paperwork inspiration...
The result was:
Paperwork has lost the donors and the enthusiasm to continue this story because does not reflect his original inspiration.
he has repleyd to me in the OLD GAME thread .. that was one of the latest post from him ... it very interesting
So I'm sure the "old game" and this "new one" are the same about the story... but the donors you are talking about abandoned him.. s the story in the 17a maybe is less elaborate but it absolutely the same because the last scene in the 17a explain well the sentiment of Amy and of course also the developer sentiment..
I have poste the pics of he last scene in 17a here
I'm sure, if PW proceed to 0.20 and made enough content, in couple of months patrons will raise. And I will be in first line.
Actually, Paperwork was the one who wanted the remake because He/She did not like how they were telling the story. It wasn't a donor issue. *Edit* also donor suggestions were never demanded. on patreon people said what they liked and PW wanted to give people what they enjoyed as long as it fit into His/her story. PW would poll many options and let people pick which events they were most interested in. Either option would fit into PW's plan for the game. PW was a great designer.
Secondly, PW lost donors because he went about a year without producing anything. He/She had real life personal stuff which caused him/her to stop working on it. It wasn't losing donors which lead to Paperwork losing enthusiasm it was personal stuff.
Thirdly, if PW returned and came out with a .20 and a .21 a good chunk of people would resub. that i have no doubt.
Agree. It was Paperwork himself who did not like who Amy became in .17. And he was right, by the way, just another cumslut ready for any dick available. .19 was incredibly engaging because of how complex Amy's choices and personality were. And it was, by all means, way closer to what Paperwork want it to be. It was not the reason why he withdrew, at all.
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I agree when you say "Paperwork was the one who wanted the remake" but I stop here to agree with you.. PW liked very much the Old game because the real Amy spirit is there.. and the story in the "new" one has the same craziness and pornographic story about a romanian girl that has lost her mom prematurely.
He directly replay to me about 1 year ago (i think one of the latest post from him/her in this site)
PW said:"You are right, this is the real spirit of Amy
She'll find herself in the new game too, don't worry. Just come back after 6 months and you'll start to see the spirit."if you want read the full post with my question quoted there is a link in the previous page.
The poll was made very bad because the result was always in favour to avoid completing sex scenes in order to made slowburn (but slow burn is a non sense for teen girl with that past)
maybe this was the error he made... or the was someone who push him/her... (maybe in his private life?)
....in any case this is not the point for me I', just focused to the story...
The result is clear to everyone now... He have lost the will to continue this story maybe because the story was almost complete in the old game and the new was going to far with nonsense
she started school late and doesn't want to miss the year. from the beach scenes it seems clear it's almost summer ... so school should finish in a few months or maybe weeks.)this is a nonsense point.. she must hurry with the sex skill to achieve her goal: She can't miss a year of school (this is clear in the new and the old version) she wants be popular and a university college successful independent girl. She doesn't want to be a maintained girl by a man who holds her as a slave oror become an illiterate girl who has to sell her body to survive.
Yeah! you are right again in "He/She had real life personal stuff which caused him/her to stop working on it" You're right, it's not the donors' fault
But the reason why he/she have lost enthusiasm he was trapped in the results of the polls he made! He is not only a great designer he has a great story in his hands, the story is in the OLD GAME!
And almost all the enthusiastic comments from the old game thread (not only in this site) made him believe that the donors would vote for the extreme sex choices in that poll... because this is the real Amy spirit.
The result put him in a position of no return and it was real delusion.
Of course the life is not so easy sometime... and surely there were also personal problems that caused his decision to stop writing ...
But I do not want talk or speculate about this private things... I'm just talking about the story... and the story of Amy is well written and very interesting.
Agree AGAIN!
I was a real PW supporter and in plus I started to support him the first time this gane was declared abandoned for many months.. but unfortunately was to late for the poll
check out this link
https://f95zone.to/threads/project-sage-act-1-v0-19d-paperwork.9895/post-3702404
and I for sure will support him when he/she will start again with just one message.
I can't wait to do that
I usually support the stories that tells about women freedom.
In this story there is a wonderful girl that use her beauty in a great way to achieve her goal .. she love to have sex sometimes in a wild wrong way but she is so smart she will learn how to do that better!
She uses the weakness of men who cannot resist her beauty to reach her goal .. maybe when she is 25 she will fall in love with her prince ... but for now she is 18 and chooses to take an independent position for become a woman that all men would like to have ... but she will choose only the right one!
I love Amy story and her strong will to improve her social standing to be a successful independent woman.
She must be the winner! (and in this new game is not clear if she will be the winner)
The story is very well written in the old game! The last dialog is a masterpiece of the real sentiment of a girl that want have success in the life..
If a boy make sex with many girls acting as an asshole he is the hero!
If a girl do the same to achieve her goals SHE IS A SLUT!
I hope PW has the will to back in this great story... because Amy is an heroine that deserve a full series of games with many episodes. (instead have too much nonsense routes in just one game is better to have more episodes focused on max 2 paths)
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Dude you assume too much about what is the "real spirit of Amy". Might I remind you that you are not the author. And in v0.19, there are many available paths for Amy in that the player has the freedom to choose for her NOT to be a slut. Who's to say that that is not "the real spirit of Amy" as well?
Throwing lines like "maybe this was the error he made..." and "But the reason why he/she have lost enthusiasm he was trapped in the results of the polls he made!" shows you assume too much about what Paperwork's real intentions with Amy are. I get that you prefer the V0.17 of this game but you shouldn't assume that v0.19 is not what Paperwork intended the game to be as well.
I think we all get the message by now that you REALLY like the old V0.17. Nothing wrong with that. We can all like different things. But be careful with the way you word it because currently it does sound like you're undermining what other people like and what other people's interpretations of Amy. Your version of Amy is only one of many. It is valid but so are others'.
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I'm not sure you have read the text of this and old game-
I just write the same is already written in the dialog...
Amy is a romanian girl and she comes in japan in due to the fact that her mother is dead!
But all right! Your are free to think in a different way.
I just reading the story from the MC perspective.