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Looking forward to seeing how you develop this idea. I really liked the early versions idea of Anal slut but still virgin, was kinda fun and it looks like we currently can push her towards that orally. So basically 3 tiers, Virgin doesn't do anything, Big Deal only for bf/special occasion, no big deal plays with Simon, relieves Steven, indulges Matt, bargains with GM etc.
Yes.

Non-virgin: With only boyfriend or someone she loves. She can break up with him later and continue vaginal encounters or can do them while with him - cheating. If Simon is very good to her and he grows on her, MAYBE she can give it to him (Honestly, I have no definete plan for this yet. We'll see where it goes. There was a choice in the truth or dare game :) If she likes the type who knows what can happen?) She can be a non-virgin but still prefer anal.

virgin: She has no special person in her life or she is not sure if he is special. She can discover other forms of sexuality. I can't confirm or deny the relationships with the other characters you mentioned :)
 

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Well, I've played it for the first time this weekend, I had never seen the game before. After finishing this build, I played the raunchier, previous version. I feel like I giving a feedback, hopefully spoiler-free, especially given the fact the dev reads this thread.

The first thing I've noticed: Your writing style improved A LOT between the games, including, and especially, the pacing of events. I liked both your games, though the current version is really an improvement of the first. It feels a lot more natural now. Congratulations, @paperwork!

About this game: I love the character model, I feel most of the events are justified by the previous events, I really, really like her wit, it makes the game much more enjoyable for me. I like to play female MCs in exhibitionism games, and this game nails it. I felt a vacuum after Valentina's Story was abandoned, but Project Sage feels much more realistic than that game to me. I like that there are options to achieve/get things by just teasing and showing off instead of necessarily fucking/sucking people. Also, I like how the characters were built and the conflits they face. Great job building them!

The only two things I thought could be changed were:
- The lack of blowjobs thing, and it was kind of reinforced after I played the previous version, where she was very enthusiastic about them.
- I feel like she should be able to open up to situations while sober too (though I admittedly still haven't replayed the game). Though I agree she should be hornier after using drugs, she should be able to do naughtier stuff while sober. I think this is more influenced by the first abandoned version of the game, but, still, I think I should mention it.

I'm sorry about the wall of text, thank you for your great work and I'm looking forward the next version!
 

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Your knowledge about college is abysmal and yet you judge it.
1.) Its general knowledge that its much harder to apply for university for foreign students .
Something similar happened to one girl from my highschool. Whole 4 years in highschool she didnt shut up about going to university in USA (like her elder sister), but in the end she failed, cause that year her chosen college (slightly) changed enrolment requirements for foreign students and she found out too late. She was forced to wait one whole year.

2.) Some universities have similar basic studies for the first 2 terms (one year) and people end up choosing specialisation only after enrolling in 3rd term (2nd year). So those people who have no clue what they want to do, they dont have to choose their field of study before aplying for college.

3.) You complain about her disliking her work?? Really?!! Many people dislike their own work. Yet despite that they still end up doing it (especially foreigners who dont have many choices).

1. Yeah and she found info on it after searching for what? 15 min? She couldnt do that before moving there or when she arrived?
2. I know that but you would think she would have a less vague idea then what she mentioned, i forgot what they were now though.
3. Except she has modeling, restraunt and tutoring forced on her, and clearly with Kathy there, she is not going to get far if she focused on it.
Guess im just biased since the Modeling just seemed like more money and no bitch queen around.
 
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I wonder which sandbox game requires thinking while playing it?
That's a pretty naive question. Certainly not visual novel games. Many QSP, Unity, and RPGM games (and some non-VN Ren'Py games) require strategy and thinking. Here are a few off the top of my head on this site:

Girl Life
Family Life
Jack-o-Nine-Tails
Damsels and Dungeons
 

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That's a pretty naive question. Certainly not visual novel games. Many QSP, Unity, and RPGM games (and some non-VN Ren'Py games) require strategy and thinking. Here are a few off the top of my head on this site:

Girl Life
Family Life
Jack-o-Nine-Tails
Damsels and Dungeons
Ok, I get it. You are talking about management. I had played girl life. That was a game with a lot of content and I liked it. It felt incomplete and unplanned, probably because of interrupted development. I didn't enjoy JoNT although I know that's a milestone in that genre.

I'll try Family Life and Damsels and Dungeons when I have time. Thank you for the reply :) I agree that this is not your type of game. But, visit us time to time :) You can find stuff you enjoy. And I'd like to hear your thoughts about the future releases.
 

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How do you go about getting the Matt Shower Event?
or day 11 beach scene with the girl and 2 guys?
or the beach event on day 4 where shes topless?
or topless on the model stage on day 3?
 

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How do you go about getting the Matt Shower Event?
or day 11 beach scene with the girl and 2 guys?
or the beach event on day 4 where shes topless?
or topless on the model stage on day 3?
Right now you can't get event with Matt in shower. Maybe in future.
Don't trust little boys on the beach.
Refuse to help Chris + yellow bikini.
You can't get those topless scenes, count them as bonus for curious ones.

is there a path where she loses her virginity yet?
Not yet.
 

Seipherwood

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Does masturbating change anything besides the first time cleaning the neighbors house?

How do you go about getting the extended train scene on Day 7?
 

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Does masturbating change anything besides the first time cleaning the neighbors house?

How do you go about getting the extended train scene on Day 7?
1.Technically yes. It increases some stats, but currently they are not used, maybe in future updates. Current game usually plays around arousal level, it can open some new scenes or dialogues. For example, you can watch nice masturbation scene, but on the next day you will have insufficient arousal level for some other scene. Or opposite, because you are not masturbated you can miss some dialogues.
So it's hard to say what and when to do, game not so linear. =)

2. Try to convince mr Miyagi on the first meeting with him. ;)
 
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Does masturbating change anything besides the first time cleaning the neighbors house?

How do you go about getting the extended train scene on Day 7?
One other time it's important is after she does her second modeling job. It will be used to determine how she feels about exhibitionism.
 

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The one where she is like it excites me or its just business?
The second one where she is able to walk around then drink, or calm down, or she concentrates. I believe she starts in a dress and ends up in a babydoll that she takes off and is wearing matching panties and bra. The bra has exposed nipples.
 
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This is a visual novel, however the author could add some RPG elements into it. Most of the stats in the game aren't currently being used:

astrength
aknowledge
afit
aagility
amusic

The author could add, for example, one time period per day that is considered "free time" or "skill development". The player could choose to work on fitness, music, strength training, studying, etc. The author could then add a few "bonus" scenes based on these stats or even have different outcomes based on the stats.

Example 1:
Beach volleyball - If the player has a good afit and aagility skill the player helps to win the match.

It could even be made into a "high stakes" match. The MC and her friends are playing beach volleyball and some rough guys come over and take over the game. If the MC loses they have to do some sexual favors for them. If the MC and her friends win, the rough guys have to pay them $20 each and leave them alone from now on.

Example 2:
The MC is very pretty and attractive. Add a few scenes based on this. A couple of drunk guys in the bar start forcing themselves on the MC. If her astrength and aagility scores are high enough, she is able to escape, otherwise she ends up injured or in need of rescue.

MC is out late at night for some reason and gets groped by a low life (one or more). If the MC's aagility score is high enough she manages to kick the low life in the balls and gets away, otherwise she gets stripped and robbed (loses money).

Example 3:
MC spends a lot of time studying and gets on the honor roll at college.

Different choices generate different outcomes, even though they may be small one scene changes. The game doesn't have to be overhauled in order to add a bit more freedom and player interaction into the game. This would also greatly increase replayability (different choices, different outcomes). Replayability is very low with visual novel type games.
 
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No.. Please no stats grinding shit that ruined already many other games for me and multiple others here..
Let this amazing VN stay as it is...



No, it's not.
It is with grinding bullshit and free-roam mess games though.
Who said it has to be a grind? The player simply has additional options on developing skills. Like I said, once per day the MC can work on ONE skill. No grind here.

You have a clear opinion here. Please allow me to have mine.
 

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Introducing such RPG skills will be a grind. Different stats will give different scenes.
It is a grind. It forces to replay multiple and multiple times.

How can you say it's not a grind when you even say yourself once a day she could work on ONE skill? Lol.
That's just stupid.

RPG elements don't belong into ren'py games and they don't belong into a VN at all either.
I like some RPGM games as well, but the majority are garbage because of such stats that introduce a grind.
 
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