kjj308

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Radiant: how to turn a "father connecting to his daughters" story into the most cliché, boring, ridiculous Gary Stu fappy go happy visual novel you can think.

-Lost trio of daughters grieving with mother's death to cancer-> 2 days later they want to fuck daddy out of the blue.
-Virgin mother (no, not talking about the one that was smart enough to call her son the son of god... to avoid giving other explanations) decides she no longer wants to be a virgin...
-Wife of cliche obviously infertile douchebag suddenly also wants to be a mother..
-Random waitress thinks the best way to get a good tip is to surrender to your cock...
-Pretty sure I am forgetting a lot of them, like the soon to be fucked mother of the guy I killed... what a better way to cure your grief than to fuck the guy that kill your son?

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Simple answer, my Gary Stu friend: its called bad writing!

Anyway, I just needed to get that out of my system. Still think the triplets are among the most beautiful girls and game graphs and technical attitudes are good, but the writing.... the writing just betrayed the first chapter soo much.
And somehow the one character I'm really interested in, Mira, is taking her sweet ass time...
 

Alorth

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I will just say it out bluntly but the dev is a fkin idiot. He himself is like a sloth and that shows when all you get is one update in a year and instead of improving it, he goes on to make animations for games of other devs just like he is doing rt now for Blue Otter Games (Matrix Hearts). This great human specimen did wonders there too by delaying their update . BOG told on his patron page and on his forum that the reason the update for his game isn't coming out for a while is bcuz this RK studios still hasn't finished animations and everytime BOG asks for it ,he says they are almost done but in reality no shit has happened.

My advice is stop doing great deeds for others and rather work on your game and pace.
I normally avoid this forum, but I got asked about this matter on discord.
This is pretty much a blatant lie. Since RK studio doesn't work for other developers. It's only function is working on the project Radiant.
Alorth "studio" on the other hand, which consists of a bigger team of artists and animators, accepts animation requests from third parties since January this year.
While we do get various commissions, "Blue Otter Games" is not one of them and we also have nothing left to deliver to any other third party.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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I normally avoid this forum, but I got asked about this matter on discord.
This is pretty much a blatant lie. Since RK studio doesn't work for other developers. It's only function is working on the project Radiant.
Alorth "studio" on the other hand, which consists of a bigger team of artists and animators, accepts animation requests from third parties since January this year.
While we do get various commissions, "Blue Otter Games" is not one of them and we also have nothing left to deliver to any other third party.
Thank you for taking the time to call this 'user' out for the lie.

He and some of the lemmings will attack Radiant no matter what and, in this case, you might have been the only person to be able to legitimately refute this lie.

So again - thank you!
 

Dogorti

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after the alpha version comes out the full version usually takes a month or so to come out, while they fix bugs and put up renders it can take a while... and considering that this dev team isn't the fastest in the world (as they themselves said) ) it is obvious that they were going to take a little longer. Whoever thought this was coming out a week after the alpha is delusional
 

walker188

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Radiant: how to turn a "father connecting to his daughters" story into the most cliché, boring, ridiculous Gary Stu fappy go happy visual novel you can think.

-Lost trio of daughters grieving with mother's death to cancer-> 2 days later they want to fuck daddy out of the blue.
-Virgin mother (no, not talking about the one that was smart enough to call her son the son of god... to avoid giving other explanations) decides she no longer wants to be a virgin...
-Wife of cliche obviously infertile douchebag suddenly also wants to be a mother..
-Random waitress thinks the best way to get a good tip is to surrender to your cock...
-Pretty sure I am forgetting a lot of them, like the soon to be fucked mother of the guy I killed... what a better way to cure your grief than to fuck the guy that kill your son?

View attachment 2515440
Simple answer, my Gary Stu friend: its called bad writing!

Anyway, I just needed to get that out of my system. Still think the triplets are among the most beautiful girls and game graphs and technical attitudes are good, but the writing.... the writing just betrayed the first chapter soo much.
What you're describing is called 'pacing'. It's a problem for a lot of writers in non-porn as well.

Basically, the protagonist of your story has wants and goals. Assuming you find his quest to achieve those goals interesting, you want to see him fulfill them, so YOU are invested as he is working on them. But it's easy to lose interest, especially if the writer struggles with making the journey as compelling as the destination.

So (especially in porno, where the we feel a biological urge to reach the 'destination') poor writers will have the character get what he wants waaaaay to fast. And then you're left with the problem of well, what do you do now? Other less talented folks will drag things out, offering no progress and stringing us along rather than just advancing the story.

Amazingly Radiant does both (it's not amazing, many incest stories fall into this trap). Let's be honest, you're here for the trips. They're on the cover. You don't even know all the other girl's names! But instead of pushing them girls forward, we stall and delay and work on other, non consequential girls.

Which leads to further problems. Now the there's so many women after the MC's cock it feels silly. And it doesn't solve the original problem. Pacing.

A much better version of Radiant would be one where the MC advances with all the daughters (let's say they start showing signs of sexual attraction). Then advances again (now, because they are all so tempted, they agree to see each other naked, shower together, etc but adopt a no touching rule), then maybe something happens (let's say their little friend shows up and bursts their bubble and they admit what they are doing is kind of weird and wrong) and things get worse (they decide to stop seeing each other naked). This string of events increases the tension, does it again, then does it a third time EVEN as it removes some sexiness options.

Then things start escalating once again. After all the urges haven't gone away, they've all just tried to repress them. Better yet, now we have the opportunity to use divergent gameplay. MC advances with just one daughter (let's say the blonde if it's lust path, the redhead if it's love path) They blow past their agreement, kiss in the shower and then mutually masturbate each other). They both agree to keep doing it, but for now they also agree to keep it a secret, FURTHER increasing the tension.

Then another girl falls (whichever one you didn't just get) but she doesn't WANT to keep a secret from her sisters, she's happy with you. She doesn't want to hide it. So now you have to either convince her, or 'convince' her, opening up dark path options. Add to that, gaining the second sister, causes the brunette to feel left out and withdraw into herself. More dark path options where you can lower her self esteem and gaslight her or try and draw her out in a healthy way.

And so on and so on. One of the girls sleeps in your bed after sex OR because she had a bad dream and a different girl almost finds out.

One of them has a pregnancy scare and you find out they don't want to be a mom, you can accept this or sabotage their birth control.

The brunette finds out about you and wants in/threatens to have you arrested based on your overall relationship. You counter based on love lust or dark options.

The story basically writes itself and best of all, it FEELS like it has direction and purpose. Whereas our current iteration is meandering and lost.

Anyway, ill wait here for the Dev team to send me their accrued cash from supporters and then use my clearly superior ideas.
 
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Jorjor69

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What you're describing is called 'pacing'. It's a problem for a lot of writers in non-porn as well.

Basically, the protagonist of your story has wants and goals. Assuming you find his quest to achieve those goals interesting, you want to see him fulfill them, so YOU are invested as he is working on them. But it's easy to lose interest, especially if the writer struggles with making the journey as compelling as the destination.

So (especially in porno, where the we feel a biological urge to reach the 'destination') poor writers will have the character get what he wants waaaaay to fast. And then you're left with the problem of well, what do you do now? Other less talented folks will drag things out, offering no progress and stringing us along rather than just advancing the story.

Amazingly Radiant does both (it's not amazing, many incest stories fall into this trap). Let's be honest, you're here for the trips. They're on the cover. You don't even know all the other girl's names! But instead of pushing them girls forward, we stall and delay and work on other, non consequential girls.

Which leads to further problems. Now the there's so many women after the MC's cock it feels silly. And it doesn't solve the original problem. Pacing.

A much better version of Radiant would be one where the MC advances with all the daughters (let's say they start showing signs of sexual attraction). Then advances again (now, because they are all so tempted, they agree to see each other naked, shower together, etc but adopt a no touching rule), then maybe something happens (let's say their little friend shows up and bursts their bubble and they admit what they are doing is kind of weird and wrong) and things get worse (they decide to stop seeing each other naked). This string of events increases the tension, does it again, then does it a third time EVEN as it removes some sexiness options.

Then things start escalating once again. After all the urges haven't gone away, they've all just tried to repress them. Better yet, now we have the opportunity to use divergent gameplay. MC advances with just one daughter (let's say the blonde if it's lust path, the redhead if it's love path) They blow past their agreement, kiss in the shower and then mutually masturbate each other). They both agree to keep doing it, but for now they also agree to keep it a secret, FURTHER increasing the tension.

Then another girl falls (whichever one you didn't just get) but she doesn't WANT to keep a secret from her sisters, she's happy with you. She doesn't want to hide it. So now you have to either convince her, or 'convince' her, opening up dark path options. Add to that, gaining the second sister, causes the brunette to feel left out and withdraw into herself. More dark path options where you can lower her self esteem and gaslight her or try and draw her out in a healthy way.

And so on and so on. One of the girls sleeps in your bed after sex OR because she had a bad dream and a different girl almost finds out.

One of them has a pregnancy scare and you find out they don't want to be a mom, you can accept this or sabotage their birth control.

The brunette finds out about you and wants in/threatens to have you arrested based on your overall relationship. You counter based on love lust or dark options.

The story basically writes itself and best of all, it FEELS like it has direction and purpose. Whereas our current iteration is meandering and lost.

Anyway, ill wait here for the Dev team to send me their accrued cash from supporters and then use my clearly superior ideas.
"Superior ideas." Indeed!

...or these might be in some form already in the authors' heads, and you've just intelligently pieced them out together from what's already hinted at and given with a sharp inductive mind. ^^ The only trouble is that said authors got lost in the unprecedented support and moolah the game did garner, and so "meandered" fondly to further extend the game's juicing powers.
 

walker188

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"Superior ideas." Indeed!

...or these might be in some form already in the authors' heads, and you've just intelligently pieced them out together from what's already hinted at and given with a sharp inductive mind. ^^ The only trouble is that said authors got lost in the unprecedented support and moolah the game did garner, and so "meandered" fondly to further extend the game's juicing powers.
But that's my point. It's not about the ideas. It's about the speed and manner in which they are delivered. The game is faltering because it's going wide instead of deep, and in doing so slowing down instead of speeding up.
 
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MiG80

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I like this game! Made a few bad choices, like starting relationship with Brooke before knowing that she has a baby, but I really enjoy this and waiting for continue!
 
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With the speed the dev is making this game, just switch over to 16 Years Later. It is the same basic plot except the MC has been in prison most of his daughters lives. That game started after Radiant and are already on 9 updates and the 10th is out soon.
 
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MiG80

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With the speed the dev is making this game, just switch over to 16 Years Later. It is the same basic plot except the MC has been in prison most of his daughter's lives. That game started after Radiant and are already on 9 updates and the 10th is out soon.

Thank, I will try this!
 
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