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What bothers me is Alorth getting hit with the stink of that ill reputation when, as far as I know, he keeps working on several projects without missing deadlines or some such. On the other hand, I have no sympathy left for SirD.
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The alternative would be a sort of escrow system where the dev only actually get the money in exchange for the actual update. You would need to have a clear set of guidelines on what is to be expected, people put money into the pot and it's based on a per update thing. Where some objective 3rd party or democratic system is used to determine whether or not the requirements for the money have been met.
Right now it's basically just, "were just going to throw money at you in hopes you eventually get off your ass and do something". With a little parasocial relationship on the side to make you further empathize with the developer, a Discord thrown in so you have some sense of community, as well as a place for your most ardent
The current system heavily, heavily, incentivizes devs to be as slow as they can possibly get away with while maintaining as many Patrons as possible. It's also milking a lot of people for a little money instead of a few for a lot of money. People are far more willing to ignore the $1-$5 a month in exchange for nothing. They might not even notice after a while. Although you could be damn sure if a single person was giving all the money they would be breathing down their necks. So not only does the system incentivise devs being as slow as possible it also distriubtes the cost in a way which means each patron has extremely little actual monetary investment and the cost to them of the devs extremely slow pace is almost nothing.
If you give somone $5 a month, a wallpaper doesn't seem so bad. If you give them $10,000 and get a wallpaper in return, things are going to get very unpleasant very quickly. It is a system which incentivises the worst behavior from devs and the least amount of accountability from those paying them. Which is why this same thing happens over, and over, and over, and over again. And there will always be those who scramble to justify and defend the behavior every time as though it's somehow any different. 99% of the time, the more money a dev makes on Patreon (despite whatever their supporter goals may claim), the slower the update cadence. Past a certain threshold it's almost a guarantee. This behavior has only gotten more common as others see this scenario happen and go "why aren't I doing this!". As long as this payment model is the primary way of financing development and paying devs, this will continue to happen.
But as you said, most of the people who are paying seem to have no problem with being milked to ridiculous degrees and the devs certainly have no problem with it. It's mostly us freeloaders who just want more content and less BS excuses who don't like it. If people didn't absuse the system it would work well for everyone but alas, greed exists and as they say "there is a sucker born every minute"
For all of you hoping for an abandoned tag here is a little insight. An abandoned tag is given after 18 mo. of not posting an update even though he is active with wallpapers and the like.
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It's 18 months with no update or three months with no communication from the dev
Edit - Turns out he hasn't even had any new posts on patreon since August
Don't know about discord tho because I don't have that
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Why do people still support him on Patreon? If someone has discord link can share it.
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Alorth made a post a few months ago whereby he nuked any suggestions that SirD might pause supporter payments. No good rep left after that.
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Going radio-silent 3 consecutive months is the threshold.
Last communication August 11. This is what's got people stirred up.
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It's not only communication on patreon, if a mod directly contacts dammed and he answers, then it won't have the abandoned tag. Only after 18 months of no update but he can just release a "beta" to reset the counter
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I just hope the game continues
And starts getting updated regularly
I have become attached to this story, and I want to see how it ends
And starts getting updated regularly
I have become attached to this story, and I want to see how it ends
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It's fairly common that someone in the F95Zone Staff has inside information regarding any VN.
If an assurance has been given by a Dev that a news flash regarding a specific project is on-the-way, there could be a delay with the Abandoned tag. But only by a few days.
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They're barely active on Discord, as well. Mostly their channels are cat memes and ads for other people's games.
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Nothing is going to change until supporters open eyes and stop support, would be nice to see 75% drop at least that would send message. Last Patreon & SS check no new wallpapers or anything Nov.11 should have been 3 months not sure about other channels
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Just report the OP ---> Other---> As per site rules require abandoned tag.
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Can anyone explain what are the main differences between Pure, Lust and Dark playthroughs? Can you have different playthroughs for different characters, or are your stats affecting everyone?
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PURE-->no incest, otherwise bang who you like
LUST-->incest-related activities ; bang anyone/everyone
DARK-->MC is a complete asshole in all his choices but can still bang everyone ; should be called semi-Dark
shu shu shu gonna betch boy , his xxxx around here gonna give him that tag, shuu gonna bet if that hapen will eat my socks and baskets
so where is the tah ? please make murica ..... abandoned again
Since this is basically abandoned, any similar quality games within the same genre?
I'm currently playing The Two Sides of Love. The renders are a bit lower quality but still not bad. The story is messy but still have some sense. The girls are hot (there are also three daughters as well as other characters). The humor is there and it is not bad.