TundraLupus

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It's just a lot of people talking about how short my game is. Compared to games that are worked on by several people on powerful computers and expect the same from me. I really hate to see you doing your best every day to be told WTF SO SHORT?
I get it, sorry if it sounded that way.
 

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I have only good things to say about the game, the renders are good, the Mc doesn't act like a horny teen, the story seems interesting and funny, and the seeing things from outside the Mc's perspective, although not my favorite thing in games, is very well done.
 

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Short update? Can I ask how many renders I have to make so people don't think the episode is short? There were over 450 renders in this episode. I made renders every day for a month (no weekends). Some scenes took a very long time... like the bathtub scene. Every render in this scene took me about 3 hours (and still mostly looks like shit).
This update realy wasn't shot if anything the first release was a bit short.
The best first release i have seen in a long time was Reunion.


if you want to know what I consider a good/long update, look at The Deluca family, or Being a Dik, of course, those take way longer to launch updates, as games like Corrupted kingdoms, Champion launch and WVM(before the dev personal problems) launch updates weekly but with less content, so, it isn't a bad thing that it was "short".
Some of these games may have much content in each update but and this is just my opinion waiting for too long for every update is not my thing so i won't even play them bevor got many updates/are finished. Most of my favorite games got updates in a 4 to 8 week cycle at least before the world collapsed.
 

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I see you have put alot of work into the game Red Rocket and I do want to recognize it and say thank you for that. Alot of your wit and humor comes through and I absolutely didn't appreciate that at the end of Ch1, before the RedRocket scene, now after Ch2, I absolutely appreciate that more. It's a fun game and I'm interested as hell in finding out more about/corrupting Roxana and Victoria.
Your last line got me curious, what is corruption to the dev? And to us?

Like corrupting someone for me would be, for example, changing the character completely from who they were and what they believed, but I see that in many games corruption is used as a way to say: accept your feelings and your true nature and don't be ashamed of it.
 
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Your last line got me curious, what is corruption to the dev? And to us?

Like corrupting someone for me would be, for example, changing the character completely from who they were and what they believed, but I see that in many games corruption is used as a way to say: accept your feelings and your true nature and don't be ashamed of it.
Right, the corruption tag was there since first release I think, but there wasn't anything to be considered corruption yet. I wonder what the dev has in mind for it. I was thinking maybe it's the MC who will get corrupted, rather than the girls. Maybe he lost his soul already when making the deal with Bob. Also, what the company does with the extracted souls will probably be a main driving point for the plot.
 
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Right, the corruption tag was there since first release I think, but there wasn't anything to be considered corruption yet. I wonder what the dev has in mind for it. I was thinking maybe it's the MC who will get corrupted, rather than the girls. Maybe he lost his soul already when making the deal with Bob. Also, what the company does with the extracted souls will probably be a main driving point for the plot.
That would be rather interesting, but that would also possibly take away the control from the player, so I hope not, or maybe you choose how you are gonna be corrupted, but from what we know from the Mc's past, he didn't have a very clean soul, to begin with, not that he was a bad guy.
 

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That would be rather interesting, but that would also possibly take away the control from the player, so I hope not, or maybe you choose how you are gonna be corrupted, but from what we know from the Mc's past, he didn't have a very clean soul, to begin with, not that he was a bad guy.
Yea, a forced corruption of MC wouldn't be right in this case. I can see a scenario where his state of being after being resurrected or just working with the company slowly exerts corrupting influence on him, whether supernatural or otherwise. Players determine if he falls or fights off the corruption. Corrupted MC would lead to doing more hardcore things with people he should protect, such as the Daughter and her friend. While fighting off the corruption would lead to some romancy stuff. The MC being morally grey lends itself to such storytelling I think.

I also agree that corruption should be when someone's base ideals and values change, rather than someone just embracing their desires. This is usually, but not always, achieved by external forces such as mind control, drugs, training, etc. Maybe there is room for some manipulation of the girls via soul shenanigans, but I think the current set up more readily leads to corruption of the MC who then does corrupted things to the girls. The girls would mostly go along with it to fit MC's persona since from a porn game perspective, we wouldn't want them to be depressed and horrified the whole time lol.
 

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Yea, a forced corruption of MC wouldn't be right in this case. I can see a scenario where his state of being after being resurrected or just working with the company slowly exerts corrupting influence on him, whether supernatural or otherwise. Players determine if he falls or fights off the corruption. Corrupted MC would lead to doing more hardcore things with people he should protect, such as the Daughter and her friend. While fighting off the corruption would lead to some romancy stuff. The MC being morally grey lends itself to such storytelling I think.

I also agree that corruption should be when someone's base ideals and values change, rather than someone just embracing their desires. This is usually, but not always, achieved by external forces such as mind control, drugs, training, etc. Maybe there is room for some manipulation of the girls via soul shenanigans, but I think the current set up more readily leads to corruption of the MC who then does corrupted things to the girls. The girls would mostly go along with it to fit MC's persona since from a porn game perspective, we wouldn't want them to be depressed and horrified the whole time lol.
Yeah, I'm not into the mind-control, drugs, or even training normally, some games Did right though, with it being you surfacing peoples desires for example, or when it was accidental, but I still prefer to avoid the use on love interests, no problem on enemies though.

I mostly agree, although I would prefer if depending on whom the Mc becomes some of them leaving because it would make sense, it is rare in this games for that to happen, I really like the idea of the Mc being corrupted though, and even if unpreventable if it was just you choose if he will become, for example, a horndog, a murderous bastard, a cynical bastard, and maybe have the option to interact differently with love interests and the rest of the world, but it would be a lot of work.
 
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I mostly agree, although I would prefer if depending on whom the Mc becomes some of them leaving because it would make sense
The way I see it, the only "pure" girls are the daughter and her friend so far. Zalda is essentially a succubus who will likely be one of the corrupting influences on the MC. Secretary is... well... a very hot submissive slut already lol. Who else is there. If the ex comes back, it would almost certainly be a revenge fuckfest. So all the other girls pretty much already fit the bill of becoming corrupted MC's playthings so far.

The daughter is a sweet normal girl. But we know how much she cares about MC. Last update also planted some seeds of desire in her. I can see how she sticks around in order to save him at first, but a mix of lust, love, affection, fear, and dependency grinds down her defenses and ends up being corrupted by the MC at the very end.

Violet is crushing hard on the MC and has a rocky family life. She is a blank canvas for the MC to paint imo. She would melt under some love and affection that she probably lacked at home, but would also be very amenable to some hardcore stuff on the corruption path.
 
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Kitchentable

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Red Rocket, don't let the anonymous internet bully you into changing YOUR creation!!!!!

I mean no one in their right state of mind would go and tell vanGogh to paint his sunflowers not yellow but pink.

And there will always be folks who complain.
 

ArturiousDesign

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I don't give two flying fucks if y'all face palm my post. I think y'all are being big babies over a girl who wasn't even yours and making a big deal out of nothing. So what if she was sucking Bob's Dick, she didn't even know you yet. And let's not be confused, she's a demon; She is naturally promiscuous, and she is sent as an extension of Bob's will.
Also, Maybe she is forced as Bob's sex slave? Bob is probably this world's Lucifer. Lastly, I think it is very Fucked up you guys are pressuring the Dev to change a simple scene and change his creative vision. And for what? Your fragile ego? Kuz all the girls must be yours? Women are not possessions.

So pull that stick out your ass, stop pressuring the Dev, and enjoy this very interesting game.
 
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ArturiousDesign

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Red Rocket, don't let the anonymous internet bully you into changing YOUR creation!!!!!

I mean no one in their right state of mind would go and tell vanGogh to paint his sunflowers not yellow but pink.

And there will always be folks who complain.
For Fucking reals! Preach!
 

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Called it! There will always be people who complain. People complain about the scene, people complain that you can't avoid the girl and now people complain that people complain (those are the worst)
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I don't give two flying fucks if y'all face palm my post. I think y'all are being big babies over a girl who wasn't even yours and making a big deal out of nothing. So what if she was sucking Bob's Dick, she didn't even know you yet. And let's not be confused, she's a demon; She is naturally promiscuous, and she is sent as an extension of Bob's will.
Also, Maybe she is forced as Bob's sexy slave? Bob is probably this world's Lucifer. Lastly, I think it is very Fucked up you guys are pressuring the Dev to change a simple scene and change his creative vision. And for what? Your fragile ego? Kuz all the girls must be yours? Women are not possessions.

So pull that stick out your ass, stop pressuring the Dev, and enjoy this very interesting game.
What kind of argument is this? Just because you didn't know her yet, it means that you have to like her and don't care what happened? (btw I didn't give a shit about that scene) It's stupid argument that leads nowhere. And don't act like people forced dev to change it, because at the end of the day, it's his decision so if he didn't want to change it, he wouldn't.
 

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The MC is already corrput he's a shyster for crying out loud. :p
Even more obvious would only be politican or investment banker. :ROFLMAO:

Not to mention he took care of the abusive parents and he wants
to deal with his attacker alone and doesn't talk to the police about it.

Ya don't need a psychology minor to figure out that he might be sociopathic.

And I like this moral ambiguity of his. Caring dad for his adopted daughter on one side
and ruthless and unscrupulous on the other as seen with the parents.
 

TundraLupus

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The MC is already corrput he's a shyster for crying out loud. :p
Even more obvious would only be politican or investment banker. :ROFLMAO:

Not to mention he took care of the abusive parents and he wants
to deal with his attacker alone and doesn't talk to the police about it.

Ya don't need a psychology minor to figure out that he might be sociopathic.

And I like this moral ambiguity of his. Caring dad for his adopted daughter on one side
and ruthless and unscrupulous on the other as seen with the parents.
Yeah, that was kind of what I meant too, and hey, I'm okay with being a sociopath.
 

TundraLupus

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What kind of argument is this? Just because you didn't know her yet, it means that you have to like her and don't care what happened? (btw I didn't give a shit about that scene) It's stupid argument that leads nowhere. And don't act like people forced dev to change it, because at the end of the day, it's his decision so if he didn't want to change it, he wouldn't.
I think they meant more that some people screaming NTR have the thought process of "She is mine, and mine only, she can't do stuff without me telling her to, she is mine" and not that you had to like her.
 
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