QQP_Purple

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Just test it. U can see that first paragraph not possible now
I got them both playing the second to last update (so 4.2.0) just fine. I abducted her first than crashed the party as he said. But I took a nap in between. So if a bug exists it's in the latest version.
 
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Wish devs would make it easier or give options to unlock the gallery freely...

Updated: Gallery unlock for v4.2.1 (same as v4.2.0).
Just drag folders into root folder of game.
Gallery unlock doesn't work, it just hides the previously grey option in my case
 

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Wish devs would make it easier or give options to unlock the gallery freely...

Updated: Gallery unlock for v4.2.1 (same as v4.2.0).
Just drag folders into root folder of game.
If you look through the gallery you'll eventually find an image of a Kobold on the bottom right. Clicking on them gives you the option of unlocking the entire gallery immediately, so mods that do so, at least currently, are now redundant. Not sure if it's gonna stick around in the future though, but such mods may very well now be obsolete if it does.
 
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If you look through the gallery you'll eventually find an image of a Kobold on the bottom right. Clicking on them gives you the option of unlocking the entire gallery immediately, so mods that do so, at least currently, are now redundant. Not sure if it's gonna stick around in the future though, but such mods may very well now be obsolete if it does.
It'll stick around. He'll just move pages and positions between each version.
 

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That's neat, so yeah, no more need for a gallery mod. What would be neat is a mod that allows you to manipulate your stats more easily than using another program to gain access to console commands, because I have a dumb and they've started locking content out of power fantasy.
 
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That's neat, so yeah, no more need for a gallery mod. What would be neat is a mod that allows you to manipulate your stats more easily than using another program to gain access to console commands, because I have a dumb and they've started locking content out of power fantasy.
They've started locking content out of power fantasy?! :oops: I don't want there to be any misunderstanding, I'm only courious but, are you sure. :unsure: When did this start happening? :rolleyes:
 
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They've started locking content out of power fantasy?! :oops: I don't want there to be any misunderstanding, I'm only courious but, are you sure. :unsure: When did this start happening? :rolleyes:
Dev getting paranoid about players using the console was sometime last year
https://f95zone.to/threads/ravager-v4-2-1-4minutewarning.26476/post-4184626

Power Fantasy tweaks was in v4.2.1 changelog
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  • Stat and Morale checks in Pale Rock will auto-succeed if you’re in Power Fantasy mode.
 
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If you look through the gallery you'll eventually find an image of a Kobold on the bottom right. Clicking on them gives you the option of unlocking the entire gallery immediately, so mods that do so, at least currently, are now redundant. Not sure if it's gonna stick around in the future though, but such mods may very well now be obsolete if it does.
Cheers, OP adjusted
 

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They've started locking content out of power fantasy?! :oops: I don't want there to be any misunderstanding, I'm only courious but, are you sure. :unsure: When did this start happening? :rolleyes:
I think, you can only miss the bad endings that are behind some stat checks and of course power fantasy does not have those stat checks.
There're two interactions with Malice, after raising her, that are only available on Dark Fantasy mode. They have to do with taking your current consort away, so it was taken out of Power Fantasy, but I honestly I like those two interactions a lot more than the one it otherwise defaults to. One has really good character development between Malice and her father, and the other is just the 'she turned out bad' path, which involves you dicking her and her asking to be your consort after the assault. There are no stat checks involved, the three 'paths' Malice can take are determined purely from dialogue options.

Considering which path Malice takes will most probably have a huge impact on the story later, it makes sense that these initial scenes being locked means a lot of her content down the line will only be available on Dark Fantasy, hence my suggestion that a mod that does what Power Fantasy does without the content lock may be very useful. At least, I'd appreciate it a whole ton. I suppose I can just use that program that unlocks console commands, but I have a big dumb.

I grabbed my earlier post explaining further.
Yeah, there's three outcomes, but only on dark fantasy. On power fantasy you're locked to only one. Stats don't matter.
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I am aware that Heloise is recruitable my issue was that in the initial interaction, if you screwed up by getting hypnotized the game ends, when there's potential for an entire separate storyline, maybe one with her as some sort of conqueror with your character reduced to little more than a mind-slave, or maybe she'll just join you in the hope to "corrupt" you into serving her in some kind of challenge/pet project.
I also agree getting brainwashed resulting insta game over is not a good game design, but the limit has to be drawn somewhere. Perhaps a few saving rolls would make that situation less insta game over but then that is up to devs do they want to redesign earlier parts of game again instead of adding more content.
I am unlikely to implement full arcs that are based on you meeting a sexy bad end. I don't think there's anything wrong with them as an idea (and perhaps, later on, the mod community will step in to fill that gap) - but it's not our tonal focus for the game. Which is being a badass.

How do I get the new scene with Sabetha and Inej that the changelog says is in?
Visit Sabetha & Inej a few times. You'll need the Incest flag enabled.

Dammit i want to see Sabetha and Inej get fucked why it takes so long to implement it in game.:unsure:
We can't commission art until the scenes have been written, for causality reasons, and my policy is to include everything that's finished when it's time to issue a release. So new scenes will initially appear without dedicated art.

Yeah i also wonder why does the dev keep going forward without completing its previous work, it leaves it unfinished and just progresses the story. So we just have to replay it continuously or wait till the whole game is done
My experience is that if you focus on side arcs, you will get complaints about the main plot not moving forward. If you focus on the main plot, you will get complaints about the side arcs not being finished. If you do a bit of both (which is what I do), you'll get complaints about both.

4MinuteWarning Cool game, really liking the concept (and execution lol)! Couple of questions:

1) How does the fourth tier on Substar work? Is one-time payment enough for one suggestion and how likely is it for the suggestion to get through? Should you be consulted about the idea's chances before subbing?

2) Some girls (such as Mina) are bottomed out in vaginal penetration while some others are able to take the full length. From lore/gameworld design perspective, are those bottoming-outs due to definite limit or could the limit be forcibly expanded with high enough cruelty for example?
Our high-tier patrons get to suggest prompts for new content in the game, which is voted on every month by the other high-tier patrons. These are the scenes marked as 'Dreamweaver choice' in the changelogs. Which prompt wins is down to them, so I can't realistically estimate how likely a suggestion is to win - but they're rolled forward month-to-month, for as long as you're subscribed.

They've started locking content out of power fantasy?! :oops: I don't want there to be any misunderstanding, I'm only courious but, are you sure. :unsure: When did this start happening? :rolleyes:
I originally imagined that Power Fantasy players wouldn't appreciate the other consequences of those paths. But I stand corrected! The next update will no longer force you along the 'better' route if you're in Power Fantasy.

I'm honestly just waiting for Naho to be available as a consort.
A man of culture! Naho will indeed be consort-able. But consort arcs take a while to develop, so I am going to have to ask for your patience.
 

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A man of culture! Naho will indeed be consort-able. But consort arcs take a while to develop, so I am going to have to ask for your patience.
Man, I can honestly say that out of pretty much every adult game I've played, I'd put the writing in this one at least in the top 5. If I wasn't a NEET on disability, I'd happily throw a few quid your way.

I'm just kinda sad I won't get to have a naga that way, because lord knows I'm not letting a world-ending demon be raised by a mother who is a resentful slave.
 
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I originally imagined that Power Fantasy players wouldn't appreciate the other consequences of those paths. But I stand corrected! The next update will no longer force you along the 'better' route if you're in Power Fantasy.
I misunderstood the situation o_O I thought people where being punished for playing on easier difficulties. It hadn't occured to me that they may have been talking about the stat check content but now it seems so obvious :cautious: I enjoy a bit of a challange, makes the rewards feel sweeter IMO and I enjoy playing the game on dark fantasy mode. I've always seen the two modes as 'Novel' mode and 'Game' mode. I should have known better :) You've continuely impressed me, both the game content and your behaviour as a devolper. (y)
 
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I originally imagined that Power Fantasy players wouldn't appreciate the other consequences of those paths. But I stand corrected! The next update will no longer force you along the 'better' route if you're in Power Fantasy.
I misunderstood the situation o_O I thought people where being punished for playing on easier difficulties. It hadn't occured to me that they may have been talking about the stat check content but now it seems so obvious :cautious: I enjoy a bit of a challange, makes the rewards feel sweeter IMO and I enjoy playing the game on dark fantasy mode. I've always seen the two modes as 'Novel' mode and 'Game' mode. I should have known better :) You've continuely impressed me, both the game content and your behaviour as a devolper. (y)
What's most probably the case is that Power Fantasy players are less interested in playing an actual power fantasy and more interested in just not having to deal with stat checks, at least that's what I use it for. It seems less a mode to play on if you want to have a power fantasy and more a mode to play on if you just want to sail through the game more easily. The game is essentially one huge power fantasy anyway, and that's one of its major draws, being a huge, awesome fucking dragon. Content being locked out of the 'easy mode' of sorts doesn't make me feel more powerful, it just makes me feel kind of lame for being lazy and playing on that mode. You also didn't misunderstand anything, Jim, as I wasn't talking about stat checks at all, but content that is decided based on dialogue choices you make, choices that have absolutely nothing to do with your stats. In fact, as far as I know there isn't any failed stat check content, at least nothing that triggers a scene, so I have no clue what those people are talking about other than like, certain characters dying in the most recent update if you fail a stat check, or so I've heard, which I wouldn't really count as content. Nevertheless, my points aside, I still thoroughly enjoy the game, as it is truly amazing, just to make sure that hasn't been misunderstood. Looking forward to more of Malice, and that Naho content you mentioned. Aside from Naho being an adorable doggo, Malice is one of my favorite characters, which is why I felt sad being locked out of some of her potential content because I was being lazy and playing on the wrong mode.
 
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For my part I have zero problems with the stat checks. But what kills me is the army morale system in stage III. So I just cheatengine my self 100 treasure and bribe everyones morale up.
 
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I am unlikely to implement full arcs that are based on you meeting a sexy bad end. I don't think there's anything wrong with them as an idea (and perhaps, later on, the mod community will step in to fill that gap) - but it's not our tonal focus for the game. Which is being a badass.
Why not to implement a sexy bad ending then? It would be a nice addition to have a different game over screen depending how you lost, in this case Heloise treating MC like a bad puppy.
For my part I have zero problems with the stat checks. But what kills me is the army morale system in stage III. So I just cheatengine my self 100 treasure and bribe everyones morale up.
The morale is not the problem but lack of tooltips and system interface. Renpy engine simply wasn't meant to be used like a strategy game but instead of dating simulator with options. The problem with targets and assaulting them are that: 1) you don't know requirements how high morale you need 2) you don't know the reward you will gain either by pillaging or sparing, and what the consequences are when ignoring target 3) once you began losing, you can easily spiral morale down to 0 and be unable to increase it.

In other words to make conquest not frustrating and manageable you have to savescum a lot to gain understanding the system, and I am sure the game wasn't meant to be played in this way.
 

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I am unlikely to implement full arcs that are based on you meeting a sexy bad end. I don't think there's anything wrong with them as an idea (and perhaps, later on, the mod community will step in to fill that gap)
It's interesting that this topic of how to continue a story after our character has been hypnotized/brainwashed has come up. I myself get annoyed when being hypnotized leads to a bad end and there is nothing after it, but it can be really hard to write a compelling story when your story can be derailed by being turned into someone else's slave. It's one of the reasons why, if you are going to have mind control in your game, it has to be planned ahead. If you don't it causes the author to have to write a whole separate story just for the mind control.

Thus far I have thought of three ways to make this happen.
1. The mind control is part of the main storyline.
Your character is going to be hypnotized and controlled by the enemy, there is no way out of it. You might find a way out of it near the end, but for the most part your character being mind controlled is going to be part of the story.

2. Your character can complete the main storyline working for the protagonist faction, or working for a hypnotic mind controlling antagonist faction
In this case, something is happening that both the protagonist faction and the antagonist faction want to prevent/control/ect.
Let's say there is an evil god that is trying to open a portal to your world that will cause the end of the world. You are the chosen hero who can stop it. There is another cult that wants to stop the end of the world and use the powers of the evil god to take over. If you stay with the protagonist faction, you get the standard good guy ending. If you fail a certain side quest, or a main quest with the evil cult, they capture you and brainwash you into working for them. Now you have the exact same goal of stopping the evil god, but you also have the added goal of helping the cult take over the world. Some of the cult related side quests can even involve capturing your former team mates and hypnotizing them as well.

3. You character is hypnotized by an NPC who has little or nothing to do with the main plot, but needs you to complete your original mission anyway.
Let's go with the previous end of the world example. Your character just happens to be going along and runs into a NPC who finds a way to hypnotize your character. The NPC either knows the importance of your character and their quest, or finds out after your character is their mind controlled slave. Either way, in order to save themselves, they order you to continue on your mission while still serving them. This could range from something as simple as acting as their enforcer for criminal activities all the way to lewd acts. After the main quest is done, and you are no longer needed to save the world, the NPC either keep you as a spy in your original faction or brings you over as a full time slave for them.

Depending on how much work you want to put into the story, you can have it as a simple loyalty swap and they obey the enslaver without question or you can have how the main character reacts to being mind controlled as part of the story. Are they fully aware that they are mind controlled and actively trying to fight it or find ways to escape? Are they more like a sleeper agent, where certain key phrases or images trigger them to fall back into trance were they become completely obedient to the orders they are given? Is it a slow process where the control is deepened over time and the more orders the player has the character obey, they further under hypnotic control they go?

Anyway, just a minor rant from me on the topic. I'm enjoying this game thus far and look forward to the next update.
 
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