Master of Puppets

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The problem with that sort of leadership style is that sooner rather than later you are going to piss off so many people that, even if you do manage to kill them all as they rise up against you, you'll end up with no people left to enslave.

The trick to a long and prosperous rule is to be both loved and feared in equal measure. And that in turn requires restraint of both ones mercy and ones appetites.
That or being a dragon. There's not going to be a revolution overthrowing a ruler who doesn't need an army.
 
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QQP_Purple

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That or being a dragon. There's not going to be a revolution overthrowing a ruler who doesn't need an army.
The overall setting seems to disagree with you. What with there seemingly being an organization or church hell bent on killing all dragons, there being no other dragons around etc... Yea.. killing dragons is apparently easier than we'd like to think.

And either way, humans are dumb. They'll try even if they can't win. And no matter how hot our fire we can't kill them all. And even if we could, what than? Ruling in hell is all well and good, but when it's a hell of our own making complete with nothing but charred corpses but nobody alive to enslave things get rather dull rather quickly.
 

Mr.Hide

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Dragon is the same as human ruler. [except great military might]
We need underling like the Kobolds who loyal to us but the make them great, we need proper likelihood for them.
If the dragon is invincible why do they want to rule over humans? It means the dragon has something that can't and needs someone to serve.
[Except we see them as toy not servants]
 
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QQP_Purple

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It's basic economics really. You want food, drink, sex and other pleasurable things. To get them you need servants. After all, even if you wanted to do all the work your self you can hardly plow the fields, feed the animals, tend to the orchards and grape plantations and generally do all that work at once. Especially not with giant dragon hands. That's what serfs are made for.

Now, issue is those serfs have needs too. They need to eat and drink, they need shelter and protection from both bandits and foreigners. And the people providing those needs have needs of their own. So even a small demand like a good roast pig suddenly becomes a giant logistical problem once you add it to all your other demands.

Now, the traditional way to get around this is to pay for the finished goods and just ignore the supply chain making it someone elses problem. But we are a motherfucking dragon. WE ain't giving our loot to nobody. So kingship it is.
 
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Master of Puppets

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The overall setting seems to disagree with you. What with there seemingly being an organization or church hell bent on killing all dragons, there being no other dragons around etc... Yea.. killing dragons is apparently easier than we'd like to think.

And either way, humans are dumb. They'll try even if they can't win. And no matter how hot our fire we can't kill them all. And even if we could, what than? Ruling in hell is all well and good, but when it's a hell of our own making complete with nothing but charred corpses but nobody alive to enslave things get rather dull rather quickly.
An organisation bent on wiping out dragons are already the enemy regardless of what kind of ruler he is. Witches and elite hunters have no bearing on the idea of a popular uprising. And a few morons fucking around and finding out will very quickly get the rest to keep their heads down. 'Humans will try even if they can't win'? Humans are attached to breathing. Most people won't try, a few people will and them getting torched or eaten won't turn the kingdom into a barren wasteland, he'd have to really go out of his way to do that.
 

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An organisation bent on wiping out dragons are already the enemy regardless of what kind of ruler he is. Witches and elite hunters have no bearing on the idea of a popular uprising. And a few morons fucking around and finding out will very quickly get the rest to keep their heads down. 'Humans will try even if they can't win'? Humans are attached to breathing. Most people won't try, a few people will and them getting torched or eaten won't turn the kingdom into a barren wasteland, he'd have to really go out of his way to do that.
Dragons don't do half measures.
 

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An organisation bent on wiping out dragons are already the enemy regardless of what kind of ruler he is. Witches and elite hunters have no bearing on the idea of a popular uprising. And a few morons fucking around and finding out will very quickly get the rest to keep their heads down. 'Humans will try even if they can't win'? Humans are attached to breathing. Most people won't try, a few people will and them getting torched or eaten won't turn the kingdom into a barren wasteland, he'd have to really go out of his way to do that.
Problem thing about those dragon killers is that they are quite zealous and suicidal, so even if they are just a small numbers of people does not mean they aren't extremely dangerous. Not just that but if they have experience in killing adult dragon that might live up to thousand years then our dragon boy better prepare for the worst case possible, and beside them I'm not surprised if lot of countries later will focus and put him as a world ending threat that need to be deal with and will join forces to do so
 
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What's that got to do with anything? Killing anyone who challenges him and leaving those who don't alone isn't 'half measures'.
You just don't get it. Think of it this way. You're a motherfucking dragon. A giant flying beast of doom and power incarnate. The chose incarnation of the sun (in this setting, apparently). Or to put it another way the physical embodiment of a hyperbole.

So can you really imagine your self oppressing your people but only a bit? Enough that a few rise up but not that all of them decide death is less miserable than serving you? Like, just enough to be evil but not too evil so that history only remembers you as "mean".

Well frankly that would be embarrassing and emasculating, now wouldn't it? You'd basically be a lamo like Superman who has all this power but newer does anything decent with it. He only like stops bank robberies and stuff but does not like say enforce world peace or conquer the world or anything.

No, my friend. You don't want that. You're a motherfucking dragon. You have a reputation to uphold if not for your sake than for that of your species. So whether you choose to be good, bad or just plain ugly you're going all in. Because that's the right thing to do.

And if that means setting fires. Well we'll just have to watch the world burn.
 

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You just don't get it. Think of it this way. You're a motherfucking dragon. A giant flying beast of doom and power incarnate. The chose incarnation of the sun (in this setting, apparently). Or to put it another way the physical embodiment of a hyperbole.

So can you really imagine your self oppressing your people but only a bit? Enough that a few rise up but not that all of them decide death is less miserable than serving you? Like, just enough to be evil but not too evil so that history only remembers you as "mean".

Well frankly that would be embarrassing and emasculating, now wouldn't it? You'd basically be a lamo like Superman who has all this power but newer does anything decent with it. He only like stops bank robberies and stuff but does not like say enforce world peace or conquer the world or anything.

No, my friend. You don't want that. You're a motherfucking dragon. You have a reputation to uphold if not for your sake than for that of your species. So whether you choose to be good, bad or just plain ugly you're going all in. Because that's the right thing to do.

And if that means setting fires. Well we'll just have to watch the world burn.
I think this is what Ravager will be in the future, because conquering a country is 1 thing but rule it effectively are another. The dragon so far have show that he was a great conqueror, but will he be a great ruler? That would depend heavily on us players to shape him up and make him to become either a merciful king or a tyrant, which in return to make the whole continent prosper or leave it in ruins. You are a motherfucking dragon alright, but you too need to know how to not just use brute force to make people obey but how to be flexible and even taken a few steps back to win over not just the people but every fractions within his court. I'm not surprised in the long run every once loyal allies he made before will slowly betray him or tie with the rebels to fight back when their benefit got harmed
Oh! Not just with that but if Dev truly want to show a bit more realistic then the dragon had to deal with foreign matters, how to be friendly with potential ally countries and deal with threat from bigger empires. Just be a dragon alone can only put our boy as far as possible so I really want to see how 4MinuteWarning will develop chapter 5 and beyond in the future
 

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Not just with that but if Dev truly want to show a bit more realistic then the dragon had to deal with foreign matters, how to be friendly with potential ally countries and deal with threat from bigger empires. Just be a dragon alone can only put our boy as far as possible so I really want to see how 4MinuteWarning will develop chapter 5 and beyond in the future
Yeah I want to see how the pale convocation Reacts. Especially considering in my playthrough I got Valzira, Heloise, Maelys and just to put the cherry on top Got Malice too. I feel like relations wont be good But I'm all for it! A lot of cool stuff that can come from this. The elf characters are going to get some awesome moments from this. I Hope the non-elf characters get their moments too. I feel like Malice is going to be the most interesting part with the pale convocation. Excited to see how it plays out!
 

Master of Puppets

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You just don't get it. Think of it this way. You're a motherfucking dragon. A giant flying beast of doom and power incarnate. The chose incarnation of the sun (in this setting, apparently). Or to put it another way the physical embodiment of a hyperbole.

So can you really imagine your self oppressing your people but only a bit? Enough that a few rise up but not that all of them decide death is less miserable than serving you? Like, just enough to be evil but not too evil so that history only remembers you as "mean".

Well frankly that would be embarrassing and emasculating, now wouldn't it? You'd basically be a lamo like Superman who has all this power but newer does anything decent with it. He only like stops bank robberies and stuff but does not like say enforce world peace or conquer the world or anything.

No, my friend. You don't want that. You're a motherfucking dragon. You have a reputation to uphold if not for your sake than for that of your species. So whether you choose to be good, bad or just plain ugly you're going all in. Because that's the right thing to do.

And if that means setting fires. Well we'll just have to watch the world burn.
What the fuck is wrong with you?!? Can you seriously not see that wanting to rule everything and wanting to destroy everything are two completely different things? Talk about 'not getting it'. Why the hell would a dragon who wants to rule over everyone randomly decide to kill them all for no reason at all?
 

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What the fuck is wrong with you?!? Can you seriously not see that wanting to rule everything and wanting to destroy everything are two completely different things? Talk about 'not getting it'. Why the hell would a dragon who wants to rule over everyone randomly decide to kill them all for no reason at all?
You seriously need a cool transfusion. Go listen to some 80's power metal or something.
 
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neverthy

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Imagine making a game about literal dragon having every girl and then adding NTR/Sharing to it :KEK:
Ok, conspiracy theory time, whenever there is a game with dominant male MC, the cucks will join the patreon and deliberately ruin it. I have no any other explanation as to why almost every game like this turns into cuck fantasy.
 

kurohyo

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You know, just to be a devil's advocate here. there a porn meme for that. If someone wishes to take away my wife then I just need to make them my bitch as well. (I mean that is an option in game, in a way)
 

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This has been an especially busy month for us. That applies to our team, who have prepared about 150 pages of new content for the next release - but also to our support. August has seen the biggest boost in signups we've ever had, which is amazing. It's allowed us to smash our coveted $4kpm goal, and allowed me to underwrite a whole bunch of new resources. So thank you, everyone, for making that possible.
Do It To Julia has joined the team to work with me in editing, which frees up a key bottleneck in getting new scenes completed - without sacrificing quality in the process. And our beloved voice actress Marina (voice of Adeline, Chia, Marie-Anne, Mina, and Naho) is recording once again, so you can look forward to more of her work in the weeks to come.
Of course, a lot of eyes are on the upcoming major release, on the 3rd September. We're in the final stretch - our coders and playtesters are working furiously to get everything in, tested, and polished in time for then. This is our first release that will be twinned with , which is as exciting as it is terrifying.
It's not too late to wishlist us, or to subscribe at Dreamweaver rank for your free Steam key. I've talked about our reasons over in , and they still apply: our final Act is an enormous undertaking, and I want to complete it in a timely and awesome manner.
Speaking of, I should get back to work. Stay awesome, dragon fans - I'll speak to you again soon.
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This is our first release that will be twinned with , which is as exciting as it is terrifying.
Does that mean Steam release is 3rd September?
 

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This has been an especially busy month for us. That applies to our team, who have prepared about 150 pages of new content for the next release - but also to our support. August has seen the biggest boost in signups we've ever had, which is amazing. It's allowed us to smash our coveted $4kpm goal, and allowed me to underwrite a whole bunch of new resources. So thank you, everyone, for making that possible.
Do It To Julia has joined the team to work with me in editing, which frees up a key bottleneck in getting new scenes completed - without sacrificing quality in the process. And our beloved voice actress Marina (voice of Adeline, Chia, Marie-Anne, Mina, and Naho) is recording once again, so you can look forward to more of her work in the weeks to come.
Of course, a lot of eyes are on the upcoming major release, on the 3rd September. We're in the final stretch - our coders and playtesters are working furiously to get everything in, tested, and polished in time for then. This is our first release that will be twinned with , which is as exciting as it is terrifying.
It's not too late to wishlist us, or to subscribe at Dreamweaver rank for your free Steam key. I've talked about our reasons over in , and they still apply: our final Act is an enormous undertaking, and I want to complete it in a timely and awesome manner.
Speaking of, I should get back to work. Stay awesome, dragon fans - I'll speak to you again soon.
Support the game! , or
Join the discord!
Thank you for share us another great news, so excited because only 3 more days for the next release. I'm happy for them to found another editor to help them with their project and very nice to hear that Marina finally resumed her voice acting again
 

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Irrelevant Art has been working hard, and has a whole crop of gorgeous new character art for inclusion in this weekend's update. I'll be sharing them with you over the next few days - first up is a refreshed design for our swaggering scoundrel, Rhyll.
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