VN Ren'Py Ravager [v5.1.9] [4MinuteWarning]

[jsmitth529]

Yeah, the size and other physical details of the dragon are wildly different between scenes. The inconsistency of the art is one of this game's major down points in my opinion. I've been hoping it would improve now that they have a single artist going back and remastering scenes, but they've already introduced a new artist who is apparently 'close enough' to the first one's style, and that's making me think they'll have the same problem going forward. Then there's this splash artist who obviously has a very different design for the dragon in mind sending that sought after consistency firmly down the drain.

For some reason, apparent by how many people negatively responded to the initial post on this page, tons of people get butthurt when you point this out, despite it being very easily observable. I mean, I get it, Ravager is a good game. It's also sad to see it get weighed down by an art team who isn't on the same page as each other, and anyone who can't see this is either an idiot or willfully ignorant. Either that or they don't know what very basic context is and they misunderstood the first post, though that also just points to them being idiots. Or they could just be a bunch of trolls looking for attention.

 

[F1forhalp]

Yeah, the size and other physical details of the dragon are wildly different between scenes. The inconsistency of the art is one of this game's major down points in my opinion. I've been hoping it would improve now that they have a single artist going back and remastering scenes, but they've already introduced a new artist who is apparently 'close enough' to the first one's style, and that's making me think they'll have the same problem going forward. Then there's this splash artist who obviously has a very different design for the dragon in mind sending that sought after consistency firmly down the drain.

For some reason, apparent by how many people negatively responded to the initial post on this page, tons of people get butthurt when you point this out, despite it being very easily observable. I mean, I get it, Ravager is a good game. It's also sad to see it get weighed down by an art team who isn't on the same page as each other, and anyone who can't see this is either an idiot or willfully ignorant. Either that or they don't know what very basic context is and they misunderstood the first post, though that also just points to them being idiots. Or they could just be a bunch of trolls looking for attention.

i think it's called the Whiteknight syndrome. don't quote me on that, though.

on the other hand, i've been reading somewhere about dragons able to shapeshift, so one couldn't entirely rule out that some dragons could use that and try to change their size.. just some thought. this behavior hasn't been mentioned in Ravager.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

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god damn did the dragon's tail grow long. i honestly was expecting something more size of his own body. the way the dragon is angled, guessing the size of his body based on head size, that tail looks like around double the body length.

edit: it looks good otherwise i guess. or at least mayles does.

 

[someonebody42]

My reaction watching you commenting shit that i wont bother read
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i notice you havent sent this to everyone
i suspect you didnt send it to the poster based of a rulet wheel
if its true and you dont obesssively gamble out every action in your life then you had a motivation to send it to them
meaning you either know them personaly
or read the post

 

[DipYourFingersOnMyAss]

i notice you havent sent this to everyone
i suspect you didnt send it to the poster based of a rulet wheel
if its true and you dont obesssively gamble out every action in your life then you had a motivation to send it to them
meaning you either know them personaly
or read the post
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What

 

[BoredGuy1812]

I haven't played in awhile. Have the developers added anal content for Darja? I remember never getting an option to fuck her when I put her on that path last time.

 

[Tosk]

I haven't played in awhile. Have the developers added anal content for Darja? I remember never getting an option to fuck her when I put her on that path last time.

Oh wow you have been gone a while. That content was added a long time ago

 

[BoredGuy1812]

Oh wow you have been gone a while. That content was added a long time ago

Yeah it's been awhile. Thanks!

 

[Hese_1]

My reaction watching you commenting shit that i wont bother read

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

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Nice art!

 

[Artix0]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but are the devs planning to add any H content in the style of the character art/portraits/sprites? Or will it always be a different art style?

 

[Nafto56744]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but are the devs planning to add any H content in the style of the character art/portraits/sprites? Or will it always be a different art style?

It won't happen.

 

[4MinuteWarning]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but are the devs planning to add any H content in the style of the character art/portraits/sprites? Or will it always be a different art style?

I am not planning to, no. It does get asked now and again, but it's not something I can reasonably cater to:

Our character design was done by 6lushy, which has been ably taken over by Irrelevant Art. Both Irrelevant and Lubbio are working at full capacity to keep up with the rate of development we have, and I'm very happy with their work.

Changing the art style for our scenes would require replacing upwards of 500 images: I would consider it an elaborate form of dev-suicide. It is not going to happen.

 

[Cerneu]

Changing the art style for our scenes would require replacing upwards of 500 images

I don't think anyone's asking to replace all of the images. Or to replace any at all. This doesn't have to be a binary choice. He's not asking you to fire the current artist and trash his images.

He was asking about adding images. That is, giving us a choice to perhaps toggle between different styles.

 

[Jman9]

He was asking about adding images. That is, giving us a choice to perhaps toggle between different styles.

For purposes of developing the game, this difference is all but meaningless. 4MW would still need to 'replace' all 500+ images for the 'character art mode'.

 

[muschi26]

I am not planning to, no. It does get asked now and again, but it's not something I can reasonably cater to:

I understand that it’s not possible for this project, but in the event that you ever go on to make another game after Ravager, I would like to say that I also would have preferred H content in the same art style as the character portraits.

 

[DipYourFingersOnMyAss]

I don't think anyone's asking to replace all of the images. Or to replace any at all. This doesn't have to be a binary choice. He's not asking you to fire the current artist and trash his images.

He was asking about adding images. That is, giving us a choice to perhaps toggle between different styles.

Damn if only drawing and replacing 500 images was as easy as when bully said they will fuck your mom jokes i bet 4MinuteWarning will do it already

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I don't think anyone's asking to replace all of the images. Or to replace any at all. This doesn't have to be a binary choice. He's not asking you to fire the current artist and trash his images.

He was asking about adding images. That is, giving us a choice to perhaps toggle between different styles.

So are you going to pay for all the extra hundreds of images?

Seriously it is quite absurd the nonsense ideas some people here still have about gaming development.

 

[F1forhalp]

So are you going to pay for all the extra hundreds of images?

Seriously it is quite absurd the nonsense ideas some people here still have about gaming development.

it's not exactly nonsense, it's more or less a matter of affordability.
adding different versions to existing images, adding the choice and followup scripts, takes either a huge amount of extra time, or additional hands who have to be paid.
some few games do come with a part solution, like keeping the old assets during a transition to new art stye as long as that transition isn't complete; mostly they don't have large amounts of images if the style change happens during earlier stages of development.
if a game doesn't have a big enough team to timely handle the extra work, it's unlikely to happen.

seen in games like Harem Collector and similiar, where i did like the old style, and now have to deal with the new one because i still like the game, as game.

*edit* found a typo, now it's mine.

 

[Artix0]

I am not planning to, no. It does get asked now and again, but it's not something I can reasonably cater to:

Ah fair enough, and no worries re catering to it, as I agree with what everyone's saying from a dev perspective it'd be impossible at this point.

Agreed with what muschi26 said, for any future projects it'd be fantastic to see everything illustrated in the same art style as it helps keep that feeling of 'these are the same characters' (and also just because the portraits have a great art style in general!)