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There are auto-saves alternating between slot 19/20 every 2,5 mins, unless you turned off auto saves.
You don't need to defeat the dragon, only survive for long enough to trigger an event.
Was the BIG DRAGON not warning enough? There is nothing that forces you to go close to it, and you have the option to save before trying to interact with it.
If you mean the quest of Mira to look for the gate with angel wings in a dungeon, then you need to go to the north dungeon, not the south dungeon.
Yeah, thanks, I got that now. The autosaves really saved me in that case. Good idea to implement them by default!
If I'm right I am supposed to fight against that Dragon once I have some magic weapons and party members capable of wielding them, correct?

Also, is there any kind of stage walkthrough? I don't necessarily mean a step by step walkthrough but maybe some kind of guidance which helps the player to avoid way too strong enemies at the early and maybe middle stage and to finish critical quests and steps that should've been finished before advancing certain critical points of the main story.
I didn't see that in the walkthrough attached to the OP.

Also, my impression is that for the amount of restoring items (especially HP but also MP) that are required to fix up the party after fights they seem to be way too expensive if you try to play without cheating. You only get fairly few coins for a fight compared to the cost of the restoring items. If the cheapest one is already at 300 coins for HP and you only get maybe 400 to 600 coins and you have to fix up each time also the members which didn't actively participate in the fight but still got attacked as it seems, the financial gain simply isn't sustainable. So I have to rely on the taxes to fix up my party. That honestly shouldn't be the case because the taxes are supposed to be used for building up the country and not for fixing up my party.
I'd also suggest to put all party members not actively fighting in the first row into guarding mode where they receive only partial damage. Otherwise find a way to let them participate actively in the fight so that it ends way earlier. Because, honestly, that is what would really happen in such a fight - each party member would actively participate to keep the overall strain on the party as low as possible. Just swapping them doesn't fix the problem here because you are still limited to the four frontline slots for a round. And that limitation needs to be overcome somehow.
Normally I would build up a three layered formation:
- frontline where the actual close range fighters are placed
- second line where the mages and healers are placed
- third line where the long range fighters are placed (bow, crossbow, gun, ect.)
(second and third row could arguably be swapped)
And then simply do just a formation switch where you put them in the front row while the opponents only act according to the overall estimated order.
Well, it's just an idea...
 
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Just a short question: How do I get skillstones? Only through chests or quests or also by doing certain chores/minigames or buying them from certain stores?
 
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Yeah, thanks, I got that now. The autosaves really saved me in that case. Good idea to implement them by default!
If I'm right I am supposed to fight against that Dragon once I have some magic weapons and party members capable of wielding them, correct?

Also, is there any kind of stage walkthrough? I don't necessarily mean a step by step walkthrough but maybe some kind of guidance which helps the player to avoid way too strong enemies at the early and maybe middle stage and to finish critical quests and steps that should've been finished before advancing certain critical points of the main story.
I didn't see that in the walkthrough attached to the OP.

Also, my impression is that for the amount of restoring items (especially HP but also MP) that are required to fix up the party after fights they seem to be way too expensive if you try to play without cheating. You only get fairly few coins for a fight compared to the cost of the restoring items. If the cheapest one is already at 300 coins for HP and you only get maybe 400 to 600 coins and you have to fix up each time also the members which didn't actively participate in the fight but still got attacked as it seems, the financial gain simply isn't sustainable. So I have to rely on the taxes to fix up my party. That honestly shouldn't be the case because the taxes are supposed to be used for building up the country and not for fixing up my party.
I'd also suggest to put all party members not actively fighting in the first row into guarding mode where they receive only partial damage. Otherwise find a way to let them participate actively in the fight so that it ends way earlier. Because, honestly, that is what would really happen in such a fight - each party member would actively participate to keep the overall strain on the party as low as possible. Just swapping them doesn't fix the problem here because you are still limited to the four frontline slots for a round. And that limitation needs to be overcome somehow.
Normally I would build up a three layered formation:
- frontline where the actual close range fighters are placed
- second line where the mages and healers are placed
- third line where the long range fighters are placed (bow, crossbow, gun, ect.)
(second and third row could arguably be swapped)
And then simply do just a formation switch where you put them in the front row while the opponents only act according to the overall estimated order.
Well, it's just an idea...
You don't need better weapons for the fight with the dragon, just a high enough level/equipment to survive until the event triggers.

There is no guide to what level you need for certain areas. There are some tough places to go to when you're early in the game, but that should be easy to realise quickly. And it doesn't take long to get so strong that you don't need to worry about normal enemies anymore.
There is almost no case of an event preventing you to do something else later. You don't need to worry about advancing the main story.

Money and healing items will be way less important and of greater quantity the further you play in the game.

I'm looking into ways to make a bit more use of the in-active party members, but don't expect an complete overhaul of the battle system.

Just a short question: How do I get skillstones? Only through chests or quests or also by doing certain chores/minigames or buying them from certain stores?
You can only get them from events or chests. There is no permanent/unlimited source of skillstones.
 

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It'll still take a while until I get to the time skip, as I need to finish everything in the "current time" before I can start working it.
The current amount of characters in the CG room that could get pregnant before the time skip is over 130, and it'll increase some more before the time skip will start.
The time skip will show you events of what happens during the time skip, so you'll be able to see pregnancy and some of the children growing up a bit.
War with other countries will also become available at that time.
Yes, the hellhound children will be a nightmare. :D
Take your time, good games require time ,you have a gold mine don't end them too quick. I'm still trying figure how to get all toons and you said 130 wow...you know I'm 62 only got like 50 knocked up so far...you could put viagra in store :p
 

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Just a short question: How do I get skillstones? Only through chests or quests or also by doing certain chores/minigames or buying them from certain stores?
you get them random but if you really really need them next to your bed is a cheat book you get 10 per click, yeah I know it's cheating but I won't tell ;)
 

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Yeah, thanks, I got that now. The autosaves really saved me in that case. Good idea to implement them by default!
If I'm right I am supposed to fight against that Dragon once I have some magic weapons and party members capable of wielding them, correct?

Also, is there any kind of stage walkthrough? I don't necessarily mean a step by step walkthrough but maybe some kind of guidance which helps the player to avoid way too strong enemies at the early and maybe middle stage and to finish critical quests and steps that should've been finished before advancing certain critical points of the main story.
I didn't see that in the walkthrough attached to the OP.

Also, my impression is that for the amount of restoring items (especially HP but also MP) that are required to fix up the party after fights they seem to be way too expensive if you try to play without cheating. You only get fairly few coins for a fight compared to the cost of the restoring items. If the cheapest one is already at 300 coins for HP and you only get maybe 400 to 600 coins and you have to fix up each time also the members which didn't actively participate in the fight but still got attacked as it seems, the financial gain simply isn't sustainable. So I have to rely on the taxes to fix up my party. That honestly shouldn't be the case because the taxes are supposed to be used for building up the country and not for fixing up my party.
I'd also suggest to put all party members not actively fighting in the first row into guarding mode where they receive only partial damage. Otherwise find a way to let them participate actively in the fight so that it ends way earlier. Because, honestly, that is what would really happen in such a fight - each party member would actively participate to keep the overall strain on the party as low as possible. Just swapping them doesn't fix the problem here because you are still limited to the four frontline slots for a round. And that limitation needs to be overcome somehow.
Normally I would build up a three layered formation:
- frontline where the actual close range fighters are placed
- second line where the mages and healers are placed
- third line where the long range fighters are placed (bow, crossbow, gun, ect.)
(second and third row could arguably be swapped)
And then simply do just a formation switch where you put them in the front row while the opponents only act according to the overall estimated order.
Well, it's just an idea...
The purpose of cheating is to avoid all the grinding, you know I know and most likely everyone knows you gotta grind for hours and hours and hours,sell items and stuff to get $$ for items. Don't get me wrong I played hundreds of rpg games(I'm 62) grinded a lot but sometimes you just want to see story and try get all scenes/gg toons(that's the hard part).Also follow roads go to places and grab all chests without fighting at least you'll have some stuff before jumping into hornet's nest. For me(played game like 5 times are skill stones)those are rare. Also found out that doing quests gets you exp to lvl faster so fights are easier, and last avoid using potions use your teleport and sleep in bed, but yeah gotta grind. And you right on some things, stuff is expensive if you want lvl your country as always $$ is the problem.
 
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Thanks for all the informations. This is quite helpful to know.

About the in-active members during a fight:
It would already be ok if I could give them some basic orders about what to do during a fight, maybe as sub menu of the formation menu.
During a fight at the beginning of a round check if some protective orders are given (Physical and/or Magic Shield for all party members for example) and apply them in bulk. Then start the actual round of the fight. At the end of the round check if some attack and/or healing orders (healing of all/certain members once a HP/MP threshold is met, physical or magic attacks for example) are given and apply them in bulk. Then continue with the next round of the fight.

About the bad/good path for Irinlia: Do both of them apply when she's already in the dungeon or would the "good" path be to give her to the guards? Just so that I get a grasp of the good/bad path concept.
 
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Thanks for all the informations. This is quite helpful to know.

About the in-active members during a fight:
It would already be ok if I could give them some basic orders about what to do during a fight, maybe as sub menu of the formation menu.
During a fight at the beginning of a round check if some protective orders are given (Physical and/or Magic Shield for all party members for example) and apply them in bulk. Then start the actual round of the fight. At the end of the round check if some attack and/or healing orders (healing of all/certain members once a HP/MP threshold is met, physical or magic attacks for example) are given and apply them in bulk. Then continue with the next round of the fight.

About the bad/good path for Irinlia: Do both of them apply when she's already in the dungeon or would the "good" path be to give her to the guards? Just so that I get a grasp of the good/bad path concept.
best choice(for me) give her to the soldiers then go to prison in begus and talk to her then do some stuff and go back she will be 2nd screen where bookshelfs are,the screen when you come from talking to flora,can't see her when you walking to throne it's just a little to left after you pass 1st screen,I made that choice because in your prison cell only thing you can do is bang her,but other way she can go to another country to get you some points then at night she....(not gonna spoil). Finally got to know how to get the 3 missing maids,1 got her as soon as I buyed the 4 slaves at thief guild didnt know 1 of them changed her name to Yani the other 2 elves are after you do sunsee quest,still have to figure out the one at the port walking around,the other one I know how to get her. If this game was cheatless I prob be grinding still and for dragon I just defended 4 turns and he runs away no atacks, gonna give you a tip that gonna help you when you go to left side country first town you see a lady next to teleporter talk to her and activate that teleport,then all the ones you run into click on them to activate them so you can teleport to more places instead the 4 you already have,I got 19 activated so far. Good thing the Dev is making the game better for future updates, most of them will make them short but like I told him if you got a gold mine grind it. I know you get 1 fertitlity potion in last elf village didn't notice if she can make more will check but since I cheat I gave myself 200 got all pregnant so far still havent gone to left side only 2 quests from going was just grabbing all toons before I go. Gotta tons things to do might go to other side because after the sunsee quest you can finish almost all your toons quests also want to open border but need 100 relantion with that country which I have(cheating).
 
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You don't need better weapons for the fight with the dragon, just a high enough level/equipment to survive until the event triggers.

There is no guide to what level you need for certain areas. There are some tough places to go to when you're early in the game, but that should be easy to realise quickly. And it doesn't take long to get so strong that you don't need to worry about normal enemies anymore.
There is almost no case of an event preventing you to do something else later. You don't need to worry about advancing the main story.

Money and healing items will be way less important and of greater quantity the further you play in the game.

I'm looking into ways to make a bit more use of the in-active party members, but don't expect an complete overhaul of the battle system.


You can only get them from events or chests. There is no permanent/unlimited source of skillstones.
Actually there is one way to buy them but not with money. The Spire of courage sells them for insignias that you get from fighting monsters in most floors of the spire's dungeon that don't allow monster captures.
Edit: this message was meant for walkerjonny . I'm sure you already knew this Ryen
 
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You don't need better weapons for the fight with the dragon, just a high enough level/equipment to survive until the event triggers.

There is no guide to what level you need for certain areas. There are some tough places to go to when you're early in the game, but that should be easy to realise quickly. And it doesn't take long to get so strong that you don't need to worry about normal enemies anymore.
There is almost no case of an event preventing you to do something else later. You don't need to worry about advancing the main story.

Money and healing items will be way less important and of greater quantity the further you play in the game.

I'm looking into ways to make a bit more use of the in-active party members, but don't expect an complete overhaul of the battle system.


You can only get them from events or chests. There is no permanent/unlimited source of skillstones.
Got a question, are all legendary gear/weapons available? Even thou I have them all but would like to know if you can get them in game, just answer yes or no. I like to figure it out to kill time and learn all ups and downs so I can help others. Found out how to get all maids, now for the rest good thing my cheat mod has reduce hp to 1 so i can capture them easy. Since I'm retired now just maybe I'll add a few things to your walkthrough to make it easier for people on how to get content. What I see from my 5-6 playthrough's are lack of skill points, wish they sell them too or just stick with 4 players all walkthrough. Want try game without cheating but still have to learn a couple tricks. For money my thing was to go to map where items spawn going in/out map and sell them if you know an easier way no cheating.
 

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I made a SFW (Safe-For-Work) version of the game. This means that the CGs are censored and dialogs for sex scenes are skipped.
There is no additional content or dialogs for the SFW version!
I want to make a „proper“ SFW version later, for example by adding CGs of naked enemies with clothes on instead of putting a censoring icon on top of her private parts, but it'll take a while before that will be possible. Since some of the original artists don't work for me anymore, it'll require remakes of some of the old CGs.
The missing dialog due to the skipped scenes is also an issue that needs to be adressed. But I don't want to split myself and work on two entirely different versions of the game yet, that's why the current SFW version is rather crude.
The main reason for this SFW version is for people to test it, and check if I did properly censor and skip all questionable parts of the game, so that I can use it for a release of the game on steam.
A patch file to convert the SFW version to the normal NSFW version will be available on an external source.

The trigger for scenes to get skipped is at the start of the game, therefore it'd be necessary to start a new game to test this feature. The censoring of the CGs is applied even in save files.
I'd be very happy, if some people could test a new run in this game version, to check if there is still any questionable content in it.

Other changes:
- Impregnating a girl now gives Ryen +1 happiness. The variable is corrected in save files when you enter the CG room. You can check the value by going to the menu → Status → Ryen → Variables.
There are currently 98 girls that you can get pregnant, so that should be the highest possible value for Ryen's happiness.
- Aborting a pregnancy will now decrease Ryen's happiness by 1.
- Added a change log text file.
- Changed Jessy's and Kiki's face images slightly. The image is zoomed in more, to cut off the nipples, in order to make the images compatible with the SFW version.

Bug fixes:
- Fixed Chiyo's "Diligent Student" skill. The double exp effect wasn't applied, because the status was removed at the end of battle, before the exp was added by the system.
- Fixed Sandra's "Greed" skill for double gold. It had the same issue as Chiyo's Diligent Student skill.

Download:

[The patch files in the download folder are only to convert the new SFW version to the normal NSFW version. They're not update files to upgrade your old game version!]

Got a question, are all legendary gear/weapons available? Even thou I have them all but would like to know if you can get them in game, just answer yes or no. I like to figure it out to kill time and learn all ups and downs so I can help others. Found out how to get all maids, now for the rest good thing my cheat mod has reduce hp to 1 so i can capture them easy. Since I'm retired now just maybe I'll add a few things to your walkthrough to make it easier for people on how to get content. What I see from my 5-6 playthrough's are lack of skill points, wish they sell them too or just stick with 4 players all walkthrough. Want try game without cheating but still have to learn a couple tricks. For money my thing was to go to map where items spawn going in/out map and sell them if you know an easier way no cheating.
Yes, all legendaries that you can see in the walkthrough are available in the game.
 

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I made a SFW (Safe-For-Work) version of the game. This means that the CGs are censored and dialogs for sex scenes are skipped.
There is no additional content or dialogs for the SFW version!
I want to make a „proper“ SFW version later, for example by adding CGs of naked enemies with clothes on instead of putting a censoring icon on top of her private parts, but it'll take a while before that will be possible. Since some of the original artists don't work for me anymore, it'll require remakes of some of the old CGs.
The missing dialog due to the skipped scenes is also an issue that needs to be adressed. But I don't want to split myself and work on two entirely different versions of the game yet, that's why the current SFW version is rather crude.
The main reason for this SFW version is for people to test it, and check if I did properly censor and skip all questionable parts of the game, so that I can use it for a release of the game on steam.
A patch file to convert the SFW version to the normal NSFW version will be available on an external source.

The trigger for scenes to get skipped is at the start of the game, therefore it'd be necessary to start a new game to test this feature. The censoring of the CGs is applied even in save files.
I'd be very happy, if some people could test a new run in this game version, to check if there is still any questionable content in it.

Other changes:
- Impregnating a girl now gives Ryen +1 happiness. The variable is corrected in save files when you enter the CG room. You can check the value by going to the menu → Status → Ryen → Variables.
There are currently 98 girls that you can get pregnant, so that should be the highest possible value for Ryen's happiness.
- Aborting a pregnancy will now decrease Ryen's happiness by 1.
- Added a change log text file.
- Changed Jessy's and Kiki's face images slightly. The image is zoomed in more, to cut off the nipples, in order to make the images compatible with the SFW version.

Bug fixes:
- Fixed Chiyo's "Diligent Student" skill. The double exp effect wasn't applied, because the status was removed at the end of battle, before the exp was added by the system.
- Fixed Sandra's "Greed" skill for double gold. It had the same issue as Chiyo's Diligent Student skill.

Download:
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[The patch files in the download folder are only to convert the new SFW version to the normal NSFW version. They're not update files to upgrade your old game version!]


Yes, all legendary that you can see in the walkthrough are available in the game.
Cool gonna be Daddy of 98,nice for legendary now to figure them out.Also if I haven't told you I'm retired got all the free time and right now this game is my priority too many stuff to figure out. Tried to play a game without cheating but too little gold drops so gave up on it,same with skillstones, maybe would be easier to get 1 skillstones per lvl-up. And I can test for you just send me private, also will stay between you/me not giving away spoilers, also not holding my tongue when giving feedback, I'm hard but fair, I know what people want(at least most of them). One thing we all don't want is a short game, milk this game it has great potentials, take your time but do things right. Also if you haven't decided on last battle could give you some tips you might like(not gonna spoil here).Downloading it will get to it. I don't understand why you want censored it for stream there's game there not censored like my top 1 city of broken dreamers, your game isn't that much hard core, besides people know what they getting into when they play these games.
 
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Cool gonna be Daddy of 98,nice for legendary now to figure them out.Also if I haven't told you I'm retired got all the free time and right now this game is my priority too many stuff to figure out. Tried to play a game without cheating but too little gold drops so gave up on it,same with skillstones, maybe would be easier to get 1 skillstones per lvl-up. And I can test for you just send me private, also will stay between you/me not giving away spoilers, also not holding my tongue when giving feedback, I'm hard but fair, I know what people want(at least most of them). One thing we all don't want is a short game, milk this game it has great potentials, take your time but do things right. Also if you haven't decided on last battle could give you some tips you might like(not gonna spoil here).Downloading it will get to it. I don't understand why you want censored it for stream there's game there not censored like my top 1 city of broken dreamers, your game isn't that much hard core, besides people know what they getting into when they play these games.
There is a channel on the Renryuu discord server for test versions, where I sometimes post stuff before the public release to get some feedback and let people help me find bugs before I upload the new content everywhere. Most of the time it's just shortly before the public release. I don't like to hold back content for no reason, so the updates are quite frequently, but that's always all I have. :D
The game will be in development for several more years. You don't need to worry that I'd put a quick end to it.

While the game might get away with less censoring on steam, I don't want to take any risks. There is some questionable content, and I was already banned on patreon.
I think of steam mainly as a new option for people who don't want to use SubscribeStar to support my work.
 
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There is a channel on the Renryuu discord server for test versions, where I sometimes post stuff before the public release to get some feedback and let people help me find bugs before I upload the new content everywhere. Most of the time it's just shortly before the public release. I don't like to hold back content for no reason, so the updates are quite frequently, but that's always all I have. :D
The game will be in development for several more years. You don't need to worry that I'd put a quick end to it.

While the game might get away with less censoring on steam, I don't want to take any risks. There is some questionable content, and I was already banned on patreon.
I think of steam mainly as a new option for people who don't want to use SubscribeStar to support my work.
I'll check discord,so far all good with your censor game. Finished getting all my team and finished upgrading everything,doing their quests but so far with the 3 encounters I had they were censored. Wish I knew about programming to give you a hand but in my days there was no pc or internet. only thing I can do is test and help the forum to keep them here hooked on game.
 
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