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Notice him facepalming my and that user's posts.
Probably think he can ratio them like Reddit.
lol yeah, I noticed. :KEK:
It's started following me around to other threads and facepalming me, too.

lol look at the little
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I think someone's a bit upset.
 
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The people that treat this game and Bully like it's a Ted Talk have me wondering if there needs to be better parental controls on their internet access. :FacePalm:

It's just a game people. The kinks in these two games aren't super appealing to me, but that doesn't mean I need to think the dev is trying to propose public policy through his game. It's a fantasy. "Raceplay" is in the tags, because that's what this is. Using racially charged instincts as a kink to get off. If you can't wrap your head around that, I guess feel free to completely miss the point and brag here about it.

While I say the raceplay kink isn't super appealing to me, I do like playing through these two games from time to time. The submissiveness of the main character and the way he's treated by those around him can be a turn-on. One thing I'm very not into is the hairy pussies, but I'm not here to bitch about that, I'm just trying to provide feedback in case Jobeo ever comes back to this, or another game. I think it's clear though that he's creating the games for his own enjoyment, and will make them how he likes.

One other piece of feedback about my own preferences is that I'd like to see more forced gay, sissification content. But I'm sure there are many who think that's over-represented in porn games anyway.
 

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Will you do two steps forward now?
I returned to pornography and have been riding an edge and haven't orgasmed in a few weeks. I feel horny. I've been reading a number of cuckolding text stories. Each one has elements I like but they also feel lacking. The pacing is very interesting to me. Some go very fast but some go incredibly slow and never end up anywhere.

I think this is one of the challenges I always had when making games... trying to get the pacing right. But I always seemed to end up painting myself into a corner. Both Bully and Reparations end up in places where you think "How the hell could you ever make another chapter"
 

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I returned to pornography and have been riding an edge and haven't orgasmed in a few weeks. I feel horny. I've been reading a number of cuckolding text stories. Each one has elements I like but they also feel lacking. The pacing is very interesting to me. Some go very fast but some go incredibly slow and never end up anywhere.

I think this is one of the challenges I always had when making games... trying to get the pacing right. But I always seemed to end up painting myself into a corner. Both Bully and Reparations end up in places where you think "How the hell could you ever make another chapter"
I guess so, but you just have to keep going.
 
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I returned to pornography and have been riding an edge and haven't orgasmed in a few weeks. I feel horny. I've been reading a number of cuckolding text stories. Each one has elements I like but they also feel lacking. The pacing is very interesting to me. Some go very fast but some go incredibly slow and never end up anywhere.

I think this is one of the challenges I always had when making games... trying to get the pacing right. But I always seemed to end up painting myself into a corner. Both Bully and Reparations end up in places where you think "How the hell could you ever make another chapter"
Your issue with "how can i go further" is that all the characters in both games are the same or the fall into the same group so you would end up repeating yourself each chapter.
In Bully, you had a dominant white girl in the form of the MCs girlfriend. You had a dominant white girl as the head of the BNWO at the school. the MCs sister starts off dominant and then falls into the compliant/submissive role. the MCs mother is submissive and all the other female characters are either dumb or submissive. Theres no variety there for you to explore. Most people would probably be happy to see literally the gangbang scene that was teased at the end of bully and be happy with how it went.
Then you go to Reparations, the MCs girlfriend is actually submissive to her white boyfriend in chapter 1, experimental BBC slut in chapter 2 and then Queen of Spades in chapter 3. The pacing on Natalie is ridiculous, she went from 0 to warp 9 in no time. The MCs sisters are even weirder storywise. One literally went from incest lover in chapter 1 to BBC slut in chapter 2 to bestiality whore in chapter 3 (starting from dogs and escalating to horse as teased). You actually have 2 characters in Alanah & Tatiana who have the most to offer the series to be fair. With Alanah you could have gone the route of her being ostracised by the school for siding with the MC and not going down the black route. You could have had her being corrupted into a BBC slut by the other teachers, students, the principal.
Now with Tatiana, she was brought in as a teacher. Why didnt she actually teach? Instead of having her only milk a black guy or encourage the MCs gay route, why isnt she teaching the white girls how to be actual BBC sluts? You could have had a variety of white girls in her classroom trying to deepthroat a 10in black dildo and seeing some of them struggle, some accomplish it and some who are just complete naturals. Every white female student behaves like theyve been BBC sluts for 20 years and they are only **cough cough** 18. I wanna see prissy, shy, petite girls struggle. I want to see them struggling to take BBC inside them. Seeing how the get there is what would make the series, rather than jumping straight to the end.
 

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Your issue with "how can i go further" is that all the characters in both games are the same or the fall into the same group so you would end up repeating yourself each chapter.
thank you for your feedback. What I meant was that the stories each escalate in such a way that they end up in very extreme places. The next chapter is such an escalation over the previous that it becomes difficult to top it. For instance, Reparations leaves off where the girl will be fucked by a horse. What is next from there, aliens to come down from space and breed her....

This is all likely my fault because I get bored of the story progressing sideways. If you look at Dating my Daughter... that is a game where they are happy with it just meandering all around, repeating all the same concepts, just scene after scene of the same thing. This is likely because the dev is trying to avoid what I did, where you climb so high on the ladder you can't climb down from it.

The biggest mistake I think I made in Reparations was pointed out by my old buddy dunloprobert where instead of the MC being reluctant like in Bully the MC in Reparations really seems to want to go along with it. Really this was not a conscious decision I had just never spent much time thinking about the difference between these two perspectives. The idea of a "reluctant cuck" who is being forced to go along with it. There are definitely nuances to cuckolding and I'm not sure I've been able to explore them because the story goes too fast.
 
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thank you for your feedback. What I meant was that the stories each escalate in such a way that they end up in very extreme places. The next chapter is such an escalation over the previous that it becomes difficult to top it. For instance, Reparations leaves off where the girl will be fucked by a horse. What is next from there, aliens to come down from space and breed her....
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This is all likely my fault because I get bored of the story progressing sideways. If you look at Dating my Daughter... that is a game where they are happy with it just meandering all around, repeating all the same concepts, just scene after scene of the same thing. This is likely because the dev is trying to avoid what I did, where you climb so high on the ladder you can't climb down from it.
Well in that example, if you use yourself as the developer whos pacing is at 200mph, then the DmD dev is the opposite. Thats my issue with that game, the pacing is very slow and as you say, the sex scenes is just the same thing over and over again. I would say that in terms of pacing and variety from a developer, then i would say Faerin with Man of The House is by far the best example any dev can use for inspiration. It paces well (other than the building of rep points) and the sex with all the chars is varied in action, tempo and extremity (the irony ofcourse that the MCs younger sister is the daughter from DMD).

The biggest mistake I think I made in Reparations was pointed out by my old buddy dunloprobert where instead of the MC being reluctant like in Bully the MC in Reparations really seems to want to go along with it. Really this was not a conscious decision I had just never spent much time thinking about the difference between these two perspectives. The idea of a "reluctant cuck" who is being forced to go along with it. There are definitely nuances to cuckolding and I'm not sure I've been able to explore them because the story goes too fast.
I wouldnt say its the biggest mistake, i think its just that its never REALLY explained why hes so "enthusiastic" to do literally anything he can to keep Natalie happy. You, as the MC, are thrusted into the same world as Bully (i think the president is referenced in Bully) with frankly a super hot girlfriend who probably no one can fathom as to why shes with him as shes WAAAY out of his league. Atleast in Bully, the MC is relatively rich so Tiff using him made sense in the beginning.

I think you just need to storyboard it tbh. You want to start here and end with "???" and try and see how to get there. Also dont close off your non cuck/ntr routes so early. i know you want to create a cuck/ntr game but seeing alternate endings would be good filler for chapters that just dont have enough content. The sisters lust for bestiality is an example of good filler to use.
If you need an example of how to branch stories. Go on Chyoa and find a story called "Descent into Debauchery". Briefly, late 20's white husband and wife couple who want to experiment with their sex life and story branches include Wife slave to Muslim patriarch, wife becomes BBC slut to black neighbour. husband wants wife to get knocked up by black guy(s), white wife/black bull but theres also white guy/black submissive girl and wife cucking husband. Hes only been writing the story since the end of March and theres a lot still to write.
 
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