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Wish the devs stop bending the knee to little snowflakes this meant to be a adult site right. If you can't handle mature content then go back to the kiddie table and play with ur care bears stop ruining it for the rest of us .
I don't want to sound like an ass or that I don't agree with you at all, at least in this case... but some people can get triggered to the "mention" of "rape" whether we see it or is just mentioned in the text of the game doesn't matter, we don't know what shit anyone has been in and sometimes its better to stay clear of certain things.
I personally don't like rape in games and I admit in this game I did not really mind it because that was supposed to be for valid reasons story-wise, though when it comes to such things the line of "valid reasons" story-wise or not is very very very thin.
 

Spfjolietjake

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I don't want to sound like an ass or that I don't agree with you at all, at least in this case... but some people can get triggered to the "mention" of "rape" whether we see it or is just mentioned in the text of the game doesn't matter, we don't know what shit anyone has been in and sometimes its better to stay clear of certain things.
I don't see how that should be the dev or any devs concern. If a person is that easily triggered they shouldn't watch TV, read any books or do anything that might crumble their sensitive mind.

That kind of thinking would have ruined a lot of classic stories. We should not burn any books to spare the weak minded.
 

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I don't want to sound like an ass or that I don't agree with you at all, at least in this case... but some people can get triggered to the "mention" of "rape" whether we see it or is just mentioned in the text of the game doesn't matter, we don't know what
I don't comdend rape at all no one should have to go through that. This is an adult vn and it will have things people don't like such as rape ntr etc... should the dev remove it just because some people find it of putting i not trying to bash people kinks . I Don't like ntr as long as its avoidable i don't care. I don't go yelling at the devs to remove it. this is the devs story we just along 4 the ride. if the dev keeps remove something you don't like then dev will stop making the vn then everybody losses then
 

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I don't see how that should be the dev or any devs concern. If a person is that easily triggered they shouldn't watch TV, read any books or do anything that might crumble their sensitive mind.

That kind of thinking would have ruined a lot of classic stories. We should not burn any books to spare the weak minded.
I won't call someone that has gone through that shit or something similar happening to a friend a weak minded people, while I did agree and could care less about that content being removed or not in the game I do understand why some people can get triggered and the dev makes a game for people, if many people don't like something is normal that they will try to please their fanbase, they are the ones supporting them or are you going to tell me you will pay all the money they lost? and even if is not about money any dev will rather have a happy fanbase and all people to enjoy their game, lets not be condescending here, being a dev also means adapting to the times and your fanbase ( incest is censured in patreon and yet they mostly have adapted with paths or mod relationships).



I don't comdend rape at all no one should have to go through that. This is an adult vn and it will have things people don't like such as rape ntr etc... should the dev remove it just because some people find it of putting i not trying to bash people kinks . I Don't like ntr as long as its avoidable i don't care. I don't go yelling at the devs to remove it. this is the devs story we just along 4 the ride. if the dev keeps remove something you don't like then dev will stop making the vn then everybody losses then
I dont think for something so minor as that text they will stop, people love this game (me included). I dunno the reasons to remove that (it may have been changed so all people enjoy more the game). You guys talk like this is something new, this not only happen in vns, there is a lot of movies, games and books that changes things and even remove content.
And btw this Vn will never have ntr ;)

If the mere mention of the word rape triggers someone so badly then they are weak minded and need help. I have friends that sadly have lived through it. They all have some issues but none of them go crazy at just the mention of the word.

For someone to think their own issues are the most important in the world has hard lessons to learn a head of them. That said Censorship is never a good thing.
I dunno if you don't read my post and just reply to whatever you think or what but I'm not going to explain all that again, if you can't understand what I wrote, is all well but don't mislead my post.
And no one here is saying they hate the mere mention of the word, we are talking of something that happened to a character in the game so is very different from just mentioning rape, but whatever, I don't agree with you. So let's move on.
 
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Spfjolietjake

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I won't call someone that has gone through that shit or something similar happening to a friend a weak minded people, while I did agree and could care less about that content being removed or not in the game I do understand why some people can get triggered and the dev makes a game for people, if many people don't like something is normal that they will try to please their fanbase, they are the ones supporting them or are you going to tell me you will pay all the money they lost? and even if is not about money any dev will rather have a happy fanbase and all people to enjoy their game, lets not be condescending here, being a dev also means adapting to the times and your fanbase ( incest is censured in patreon and yet they mostly have adapted with paths or mod relationships).
If the mere mention of the word rape triggers someone so badly then they are weak minded and need help. I have friends that sadly have lived through it. They all have some issues but none of them go crazy at just the mention of the word.

For someone to think their own issues are the most important in the world has hard lessons to learn a head of them. That said Censorship is never a good thing.
 

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I don't know if I would call people weak minded because they don't like when a story has rape, even if it's just as a backstory. We all look for different things in these games, and some people use these games as a form of escapism. So I get why people wouldn't want that stuff in the games they play. I personally am not a fan of that stuff either. That being said I also understant why Spfjolietjake and other people would be concerned with the dev changing the character's backstory. Yes the dev needs the support of people to be able to continue making the game, but there has to be a balance between what people don't like/want in the game and the vision the dev has for his game. Changing the story every time someone has a problem with it, in my opinion, it's not a good path to take.
 

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What I disliked about the rape backstory is the unrealistic way it was brought up. That is such a personal thing that I can't believe why she would tell the MC about it on just the first date. It is part of what makes porn games unrealistic, especially if they don't depict passage of time between events. If you what most porn games depict in a week we would be lucky to achieve in far longer timeframe in real life.

I just wish we had seen them getting to know each other over a longer period skipping time, Then we could simply have had 1 or 2 renders of them getting quick coffee, a 1-2 line reference to a meal date..... Then by the time that we actually get the rape revelation it is because she has grown to trust the MC and maybe have feelings for him.

Would have taken the same amount of pages and renders that we actually got so would nt have delayed release o the game in real life. But a bit more believable than simply telling the MC on first date!!
 

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Devs change their games because some whine, sad.
I don't think it is unusual for a rape victim to confess to her partner or potential partner of what happened to her, been there, done that.
Anyway, I doubt the problem here is the believability of the situation, I think the problem here is how some people hate when something like that happened to their potential waifu.
I have seen this before in other games threads too.
 

Spfjolietjake

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What I disliked about the rape backstory is the unrealistic way it was brought up. That is such a personal thing that I can't believe why she would tell the MC about it on just the first date. It is part of what makes porn games unrealistic, especially if they don't depict passage of time between events. If you what most porn games depict in a week we would be lucky to achieve in far longer timeframe in real life.

I just wish we had seen them getting to know each other over a longer period skipping time, Then we could simply have had 1 or 2 renders of them getting quick coffee, a 1-2 line reference to a meal date..... Then by the time that we actually get the rape revelation it is because she has grown to trust the MC and maybe have feelings for him.

Would have taken the same amount of pages and renders that we actually got so would nt have delayed release o the game in real life. But a bit more believable than simply telling the MC on first date!!
Dude, everything is fast forward in a vn. There is not enough time given to have proper length courtships.
It's like making a movie for TV from a novel. Yes that isn't first date material usually (depends on the person actually but still) a lot things aren't first or second date occurrences in a vn. You must realize that

Badjourasmix hell of a post bro
 

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Dude, everything is fast forward in a vn. There is not enough time given to have proper length courtships.
It's like making a movie for TV from a novel. Yes that isn't first date material usually (depends on the person actually but still) a lot things aren't first or second date occurrences in a vn. You must realize that

Badjourasmix hell of a post bro
But that was precisely my point. It would have only taken a few renders and a couple of lines to show that they had been on several dates and gotten closer and THEN I could have believed her confiding in him. The fact that she just blurted it out on the first date is what I found so jarring and unrealistic, and why I disliked it.

A VN can easily incorporate time jumps of a few days between scenes. Scenes that are unrealistic on the second day that met a character might be far more realistic if it is apparent that it is a few weeks or even months later. Can still take the same amount of pages to tell that story, so that developers can release the same number of updates in real life, but works far better as a story.

Then again if you are someone that wants a scene the first time the characters meet, and that the LI motivation is just the MC's big dick, then go ahead, because nothing I say will make you change your mind.
 

Spfjolietjake

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But that was precisely my point. It would have only taken a few renders and a couple of lines to show that they had been on several dates and gotten closer and THEN I could have believed her confiding in him. The fact that she just blurted it out on the first date is what I found so jarring and unrealistic, and why I disliked it.

A VN can easily incorporate time jumps of a few days between scenes. Scenes that are unrealistic on the second day that met a character might be far more realistic if it is apparent that it is a few weeks or even months later. Can still take the same amount of pages to tell that story, so that developers can release the same number of updates in real life, but works far better as a story.

Then again if you are someone that wants a scene the first time the characters meet, and that the LI motivation is just the MC's big dick, then go ahead, because nothing I say will make you change your mind.
I understand your point, and get why it threw you (you weren't alone in that). We see it differently and that is cool.

As a former avid reader I got used to the televisionation of novels, novellas and even short stories to not include time jumps, combine characters and alter details. So when I joined the world of vns this stuff never took me out of stories. I do get it though
 

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Wish the devs stop bending the knee to little snowflakes this meant to be a adult site right. If you can't handle mature content then go back to the kiddie table and play with ur care bears stop ruining it for the rest of us .
I wish ALL industries would stop bending the knee. It's ruining creativity and entertainment as a whole. Art is about freedom, not a small amount of twitter mobs throwing tantrums dictating our entire culture.
 

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I see complaints about "Rape" Seems like these days, people don't know the differnce between reality and fiction any more :FacePalm:
I like Rape and sleep sex in games, people getting killed and all the dark stuff and IT IS OK, cause it's fiction... and thats why this game is good :) If it had only been family friendly, then it would just have been like any other boring family game out there.

Oh and btw... I very much dislike big asses and big tits, so please remove them from the game, cause it makes me sick :p
 

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I see complaints about "Rape" Seems like these days, people don't know the differnce between reality and fiction any more :FacePalm:
I like Rape and sleep sex in games, people getting killed and all the dark stuff and IT IS OK, cause it's fiction... and thats why this game is good :) If it had only been family friendly, then it would just have been like any other boring family game out there.

Oh and btw... I very much dislike big asses and big tits, so please remove them from the game, cause it makes me sick :p
I don't like active rape in a game or wherever.
I do like big asses if they look natural on the model. If they don't, then I don't like them.
I don't like big tits (except on Dolly Parton). I do prefer common everyday sizes. So I partially agree with you there.

But since you are so rude to make such a demand it is more then likely that the dev will respond with:

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Of course, I COULD be wrong. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'm willing to bet people complained about the rape because they just didn't want to hear about it and now that LI is tainted or damaged goods.
 

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I don't like active rape in a game or wherever.
I do like big asses if they look natural on the model. If they don't, then I don't like them.
I don't like big tits (except on Dolly Parton). I do prefer common everyday sizes. So I partially agree with you there.

But since you are so rude to make such a demand it is more then likely that the dev will respond with:

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Of course, I COULD be wrong. :ROFLMAO:
Well I really did not make any demands, I was just pointing out how stupid it is, to ask to get things removed from a game, if it's Rape or Big Tits or whatever, just cause it hurts some ones feelings... and don't you think it's just as rude to demand rape being removed?
 

Spfjolietjake

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Voicing your likes and dislikes awesome. Demands for inclusion or removal and bullying is pathetic douchery, imo.

Man I'm ready to get back in this one :)
 
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just revisited this game after it's initial release. it turns out to be some sort of great game! really loved it!

how often does the dev update this game tho? do you guys have any ideas when will we be expecting the next update?
 
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