VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.8.0 Public] [Jestur]

[DETROIT123_io]

I'm curious. What games do you consider famous? This one is in the top-10 on F95's ratings. Let's keep it to AVNs in your answers.

I did not say it in that sense . I said in a way that It wont catch eyes of extremist people on social media and it is not available on steam so it wont catch an eye

 

[Meiri]

no offense but I think Jestur is kind of getting too scared , There are many workarounds to this rule . Plus this game is not too famous . He could have made a side patch that is not released on patreon . It only takes few line cahnges to scripting . Or let user input their choices . I get the daughter fucking thing being a problem but changing tiffany , jessica and aunt jenny to strangers is kinda low blow . I hope he would have made a poll before taking such a decision , I even subbed to him on patreon for support

I think he is right to be, Patreon has had its crusade against this kind of games over the years and if they remove it from their platform he would lose a lot of revenue.

 

[Daermon420]

no offense but I think Jestur is kind of getting too scared , There are many workarounds to this rule . Plus this game is not too famous . He could have made a side patch that is not released on patreon . It only takes few line cahnges to scripting . Or let user input their choices . I get the daughter fucking thing being a problem but changing tiffany , jessica and aunt jenny to strangers is kinda low blow . I hope he would have made a poll before taking such a decision , I even subbed to him on patreon for support

Games with separate patches have been banned by Patreon, so that wouldn't have been a guaranteed way to protect this game from the banhammer.

Game not too famous? This game is currently ranked 77th in adult games on Patreon out of 1k+ creators in that category. Probably a lot more than 1k but that's as high as the search will go. It's been on the front page of top games by all time weighted ranking on this site for years now consistently. This is a game with 2k+ paid supporters on Patreon. That's a lot of eyes on it, any of which might decide to report it for some reason if it still had incest.

Jestur is making 5k+ per month minimum off their Patreon alone, spiking up to 15k+ on release months. Would you risk burning that much money to have incest? I know I sure as fucking hell wouldn't. Not when Tiffany as a family friend and neighbor who took in the MC works just as well for the story.

He didn't change them to strangers, the MC has still known Tiff and Jess his entire life, they were neighbors and close friends.

 

[pitao]

Yes it is just better to play it safe mainly on honey select games, I would play Ripples just for the story and even if didn't had any sexual content and it could still have a lot of animations, they can be used outside of lewd scenes. Of course I favor this site to play VNs and this is mainly a site with games with adult/sexual content and like 95%+ VNs I played so far are AVNs with it, but there is still great games without sexual content like Steins Gate saga (that are also on this site) that I enjoyed just for the sci-fi genre and actually same sub-genre than Ripples.

 

[Discrepancy]

Old incest patch?

Till v0.6 used to exist a standalone incest patch, since 0.7 the only way to have incest is through multi-mod, but the patch was still on the op and would break the game when the 0.7 content started so it was obsolete and someone (rightly) asked for it to be removed.

 

[Satou Pendragon]

it was obsolete and someone (rightly) asked for it to be removed.

Yes that was good because dear god did we have a ton of posts complaining about a broken game thanks to it.

 

[Discrepancy]

Yes thar was good because dear god did we have a ton of posts complaining about a broken game thanks to it.

Happened to me the first time I played, but instead of complaining I just used the search thing here

 

[pitao]

Till v0.6 used to exist a standalone incest patch, since 0.7 the only way to have incest is through multi-mod, but the patch was still on the op and would break the game when the 0.7 content started so it was obsolete and someone (rightly) asked for it to be removed.

Yep it was our friend Maccabbee that just like me was tired of members complaining about the fact that the incest patch break their games or kept asking for it to be updated . We were also hoping it lessen the incest debate but it didn't work that well

 

[Daermon420]

I did not say it in that sense . I said in a way that It wont catch eyes of extremist people on social media and it is not available on steam so it wont catch an eye

The extremist types that are leading the charge to take this stuff down chose Patreon creators as some of their first targets. Steam getting pressure from them is only a very recent development.

So yeah, those types absolutely do take notice of popular adult games on Patreon and have put enough pressure on the site to have many removed already.

 

[Bob69]

The extremist types that are leading the charge to take this stuff down chose Patreon creators

You can write Visa and Mastercard.

 

[Justonemore20]

If jestur really wants the incest debate to finally end, he is going to have to make some changes to the early game. It's not even about tiffany, the whole plot was developed to be incest from the beginning, and it shows. The MC has a lot of friends and acquaintances who are all the same age, all of them having only their mothers and not a single clue about their fathers, and then the MC travels back in time and gets to know every single one of their mothers at a young age, all of them single and messing around with the MC. So what's more logical?

1. The MC being the father of all of his friends, that he got all of the moms pregnant in the past while messing around with them and then disappeared since he stopped going back in time.

2. After MC disappeared from the past, they all found boyfriends at the same time, got pregnant the same year, and all their husbands either left or died.

Can you all see where the problem is? , jestur now has to work around a massive plot hole left by the removal of the incest, so even if you don't play with the mod, you are going to feel like something doesn't add up the more you play, so the debate will continue on and on with people asking about the mod, the tags, which one is canon, and so on.

There is one solution, but I think it would displease everyone: Jestur could make it so all of them did get pregnant from the same guy, just not the MC, so someone else got the harem in the past. Although this one would backfire if there are plans for threesomes with the present girls because now it would be incest again.

 

[Discrepancy]

If jestur really wants the incest debate to finally end, he is going to have to make some changes to the early game. It's not even about tiffany, the whole plot was developed to be incest from the beginning, and it shows. The MC has a lot of friends and acquaintances who are all the same age, all of them having only their mothers and not a single clue about their fathers, and then the MC travels back in time and gets to know every single one of their mothers at a young age, all of them single and messing around with the MC. So what's more logical?

1. The MC being the father of all of his friends, that he got all of the moms pregnant in the past while messing around with them and then disappeared since he stopped going back in time.

2. After MC disappeared from the past, they all found boyfriends at the same time, got pregnant the same year, and all their husbands either left or died.

Can you all see where the problem is? , jestur now has to work around a massive plot hole left by the removal of the incest, so even if you don't play with the mod, you are going to feel like something doesn't add up the more you play, so the debate will continue on and on with people asking about the mod, the tags, which one is canon, and so on.

There is one solution, but I think it would displease everyone: Jestur could make it so all of them did get pregnant from the same guy, just not the MC, so someone else got the harem in the past. Although this one would backfire if there are plans for threesomes with the present girls because now it would be incest again.

Not saying you're wrong here, but since this isn't a kinetic novel and you can avoid all the girls (I think) there would always be another father for the girls you avoided fucking in the past. With this in mind not seeing how is this a problem, the solution was always there, just the avoiding fucking the girls in the past becomes the cannon plot even if you fucked them all

 

[Daermon420]

If jestur really wants the incest debate to finally end, he is going to have to make some changes to the early game.

I don't think Jestur cares what we debate on this forum at all.

The MC has a lot of friends and acquaintances who are all the same age, all of them having only their mothers and not a single clue about their fathers, and then the MC travels back in time and gets to know every single one of their mothers at a young age, all of them single and messing around with the MC. So what's more logical?

1- The MC being the father of all of his friends, that he got all of the moms pregnant in the past while messing around with them and then disappeared since he stopped going back in time.

2. After MC disappeared from the past, they all found boyfriends at the same time, got pregnant the same year, and all their husbands either left or died.

This is only an issue for people that can't look at the ages and do math. Most of the girls in '19 are too young to have been fathered by the MC in '99. And the one that actually is in that window, Skylar, we didn't have sex with her mother then and probably won't in '99 judging by how the last episode ended. So no, it's really not a problem and kind of hilarious it's an ongoing debate here at all. Let alone a "massive plot hole".

There is one solution, but I think it would displease everyone: Jestur could make it so all of them did get pregnant from the same guy, just not the MC, so someone else got the harem in the past.

Or, you know, different fathers that either didn't stick around, divorced or ended up in jail like Skylars dad. Single mothers aren't exactly rare these days. A single guy impregnating them all is far more unbelievable than the mothers hooking up with different guys 1-2 years after MC disappears from '99.

I honestly don't really give a shit whether their dads are ever introduced or explained in game. It doesn't matter to the story, unless Jestur wants it to become relevant for some reason, and it doesn't affect the MCs current relationships with the women.

 

[Justonemore20]

Well, I'll admit when I'm wrong; the ages could still fit since we don't know when the MC stops going to the past, but I didn't think about the fact that you can avoid the girls. It just completely skipped my mind. I mean, why would I do that when all the characters are great and I'm playing an AVN?

Also, either this town has the worst husbands ever or the worst luck for husbands and they keep dying.

 

[pitao]

Can you all see where the problem is? , jestur now has to work around a massive plot hole left by the removal of the incest, so even if you don't play with the mod, you are going to feel like something doesn't add up the more you play, so the debate will continue on and on with people asking about the mod, the tags, which one is canon, and so on.

This is a you and some others problem, I don't see any massive plot hole left by the incest removal, I played both versions and don't see any plot holes besides those that are usually inherent to any time travel story, it is in the core of time travel some inconsistencies and paradoxes. Not because they are blood related or not.

And please stop with the canon thing, the canon can be decided at any point the developer wants, if they want to change the canon story in the last update and that completes the game, then that is the canon story, that is their complete vision of their creation.

People forget this are games under development, they are not finished games and are under of any possible changes any time they feel it is needed or that envision better what they want to be told and played. It is their creation, not ours.

Edit : On the rest of your post I just think you overthink this too much, you put too much logic on what is fiction and specially sci-fi (and many AVNs simply put some "porn" (il)logic in it to make it work), usually when we overthink it is when we start nitpicking everything and not enjoying works of fiction. It is the writer that decides those things as unplausible or illogical it can seem. I prefer to focus on the general story and not why they got pregnant at similar times or not. Better look at the forest than to some "burnt" trees in the middle of it.

 

[danb35]

we don't know when the MC stops going to the past

We don't, and it also seems entirely plausible that the machine that sends him 20 years into the past could also send him 19 years into the past. And the two ninjas (the shit-ninja at school, and the one who helps us with Gabby) both suggest that it can do more. OTOH, MC doesn't seem to be control of when he travels, either--so his deciding in a year that he'd like to have some fun with Scarlett (or Khloe) again (or his deciding he'd like to go back to 2000 for that purpose) wouldn't necessarily mean it would happen.

I'm not all the way through this update, and if those who are say it doesn't look like MC's going to get with 1999 Luna, that opinion is based on more information than I have. But it sure seemed at the end of 0.7 that it was headed that way, and the genre generally would suggest it as well.

 

[Justonemore20]

We don't, and it also seems entirely plausible that the machine that sends him 20 years into the past could also send him 19 years into the past. And the two ninjas (the shit-ninja at school, and the one who helps us with Gabby) both suggest that it can do more. OTOH, MC doesn't seem to be control of when he travels, either--so his deciding in a year that he'd like to have some fun with Scarlett (or Khloe) again (or his deciding he'd like to go back to 2000 for that purpose) wouldn't necessarily mean it would happen.

I'm not all the way through this update, and if those who are say it doesn't look like MC's going to get with 1999 Luna, that opinion is based on more information than I have. But it sure seemed at the end of 0.7 that it was headed that way, and the genre generally would suggest it as well.

Jestur introduces that hot model of young Luna, shows us some flirtation with her, and then decides to not give us a sex scene with her ever. That would be just cruel.

 

[Justonemore20]

Edit : On the rest of your post I just think you overthink this too much, you put too much logic on what is fiction and specially sci-fi (and many AVNs simply put some "porn" (il)logic in it to make it work), usually when we overthink it is when we start nitpicking everything and not enjoying works of fiction. It is the writer that decides those things as unplausible or illogical it can seem. I prefer to focus on the general story and not why they got pregnant at similar times or not. Better look at the forest than to some "burnt" trees in the middle of it.

Yeah, I get what you are saying. The thing is that I don't really know how to classify ripples. There are games here where porn logic dominates all and you don't have to think too much about things, and then there are some where every single detail is important and you have to pay attention to piece together the story. You can blame Out of touch and Superhuman for making me overanalyze all games now. Since Ripple's story is somewhat serious and you are playing with time travel, it's difficult to not think about it being part of the second category, but maybe I'm looking too hard at the details.

 

[pitao]

Yeah, I get what you are saying. The thing is that I don't really know how to classify ripples. There are games here where porn logic dominates all and you don't have to think too much about things, and then there are some where every single detail is important and you have to pay attention to piece together the story. You can blame Out of touch and Superhuman for making me overanalyze all games now. Since Ripple's story is somewhat serious and you are playing with time travel, it's difficult to not think about it being part of the second category, but maybe I'm looking too hard at the details.

Finally something I can really agree on. Edit : But it is lightly serious with fun and funny moments. It is not to take it overly seriously. I rarely do on sci-fi, except some hard sci-fi like The Expanse or Battlestar Galactica and even those have a few rare inconsistencies but they rely more on "realism".

Ripples is not that hard to classify, it is a Sci-fi Time travel genre story with a young adult student protagonist and that have some adult and sex content in it but the A on the VN is not the main strength. It is still good in that department, specially the great care on polishing it visually on pos production.

For me that is the main strength, the overall story and visual greatness, the renders, the animations in general and even outside of the lewd scenes the little and longer animations, some that just are well done few renders in sequence that make it seem an animation, there are lots of them and make the game more alive.
eg: When the MC throws stones to the time travel machine, it made me smile from its simplicity and the detail of the stones on the ground near him are less each time he throws one and they appear on the ground near the machine shows the attention to detail.

So yeah it is on my Tier S favorite games because I tried it for the "porn" but come back for the story and visual wonder on HS1 like no other in that illusion graphic engine.

 

[Derek in a Bush]

guys the group called collective Shout is the one responsible for all this censorship . They are forcing the payment companies to take these measures . And soon all adult games will be censored . I dont know why payment companies are sscared of that group . But this group even censored GTA 5 . We need to fight back against this group

Yeah good luck with that, it's imposible IMO. All these censorships come and go, it's sad AVN's are being targeted now but these kind of censorships go back since gaming started