- May 9, 2019
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Having a hard time getting through the cringe intro. A suggestion to the Dev. Don't take your audience's time or attention for granted.
- Mar 15, 2020
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Free roam, and a puzzle to figure things out? No thanks. Dev, I don't know if you really do like criticism or not, nor do I care. I want you to know that you killed the game for me. Good luck with your game.
- Oct 6, 2017
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To be fair, you cant simply judge MC for forgetting about his sister. You have probably forgotten but MC suffered brain concusion and he has fallen unconscious multiple times. People act weirdly after concusion (Its serious stuff, people might die from that).
Things like memory loss, confusion and loss of correct judgement are common after concusion.
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- Jul 2, 2017
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True.. this update was more fun and better done in my opnion
I find how the dev did the different personalitys great and fun.I think this game is getting a bad rap from a few complainers.
Yeah, there is a brief free-range section that has you clicking on shit. It takes about 3-4 minutes to complete and it's back to the novella. I tried it a few times just to see if I could lose by clicking on the wrong stuff. I couldn't. It's click a few things and go on your merry way.
And yeah, the MC is a little is a little inconsistent at the beginning. But the story is good and getting better.
The renders are nice. Even the cutaways are short and I have faith that the developer will tie it all together at some point.
The developer gives updates within reasonable timeframes with enough content to make the download worthwhile.
To me, pointing out the number of Patreon followers and how much (or how little) money the developer brings in each month is pretty low-grade. Constantly harping because things are not exactly as you want it is ridiculous.
It's not like you paid for the game. You got it for the princely sum of ... FREE!
If you want a game to be a certain way ... make it yourself.
Constructive criticism, worded cordially, is welcomed and accepted by most developers.
But a forum board isn't a license to continually gripe about somebody who has offered up hundreds of hours of his or her time for your entertainment.
Yeah, there is a brief free-range section that has you clicking on shit. It takes about 3-4 minutes to complete and it's back to the novella. I tried it a few times just to see if I could lose by clicking on the wrong stuff. I couldn't. It's click a few things and go on your merry way.
And yeah, the MC is a little is a little inconsistent at the beginning. But the story is good and getting better.
The renders are nice. Even the cutaways are short and I have faith that the developer will tie it all together at some point.
The developer gives updates within reasonable timeframes with enough content to make the download worthwhile.
To me, pointing out the number of Patreon followers and how much (or how little) money the developer brings in each month is pretty low-grade. Constantly harping because things are not exactly as you want it is ridiculous.
It's not like you paid for the game. You got it for the princely sum of ... FREE!
If you want a game to be a certain way ... make it yourself.
Constructive criticism, worded cordially, is welcomed and accepted by most developers.
But a forum board isn't a license to continually gripe about somebody who has offered up hundreds of hours of his or her time for your entertainment.
Is there a walkthrough does it need a walkthrough? Do choices even matter? Is this a harem or do I need to pick a girl and stick with that one? I don't care much for the blond girl but I do like the other one and the sister, so I usually avoid sex with the blond but does it matter?
I mean, he doesn't forget about his sister tho. He says multiple times about how he needs to go back and make sure shes ok / that she knows hes ok. He just chooses not to leave, he would rather fuck someone he met <1 day ago. He remembers how "important" she is to him, but chooses to listen to complete strangers instead of contacting her.
- Dec 27, 2017
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No problem. I'm not a big fan of Free Roam either. It takes a really good game for me to bother to wade through such time-consumers.
But I'm not going to try to persuade the developer to change the game. If I find that I can no longer stomach a game, I just drop it.
I have always been a firm believer in each developer creating the game that pleases them. Criticisms should be listened to, but functional changes, outside the range of the original concept should be avoided at all cost. A developer should live or die by his/her own ideas. In fact, I avoid at all cost games of those developers who ask their supporters what to do next. They don't have a story of their own to tell, and I'm not interested in a game developed according to a poll.
The fact is that most new game developers fail. There are many reasons for this, just are there are many reasons why so many new businesses fail. But I prefer to let it be on their shoulders. The really good ones usually pull through.
I'm not a fan of the free roam part either, mostly because I had to check the images file to make sure I didn't miss anything, but other than that it was a nice update and finally the MC did something more than just being there. The only thing I found a bit disappointing is that there wasn't a night scene with Sarah right before the end, like there was for the other two if you pursue either of them. I'm not talking about anything sexual of course, but it was a good opportunity to show Sarah's mixed/confused feelings, in a way similar to what happened when the MC was getting dressed in the morning.
- Oct 23, 2016
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Another fine update, sure free-roam searching was a bit annoying, but a matter of a few minutes.
I've seen and played a lot worse.
From the comments I see this game still gets judged way harsh.
From my pov, it is well written, it has humour, the renders are good and it actually has a story.
I for one have no idea why this game garners so much criticism, compared to others, which quite objectively have worse free-roam, are written in horrible Engrish and whose story is nothing but an excuse for gratuitous porn scenes which come about completely pointless.
Please don't let yourself be steered from this one, because of the negative voices, this is a good game and well worth checking out.
I've seen and played a lot worse.
From the comments I see this game still gets judged way harsh.
From my pov, it is well written, it has humour, the renders are good and it actually has a story.
I for one have no idea why this game garners so much criticism, compared to others, which quite objectively have worse free-roam, are written in horrible Engrish and whose story is nothing but an excuse for gratuitous porn scenes which come about completely pointless.
Please don't let yourself be steered from this one, because of the negative voices, this is a good game and well worth checking out.
- Nov 14, 2019
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What can I say? He had me with the first Philip K. Dick reference...
- Jun 17, 2017
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Why didn't anyone think of having the MC write a note for Malady to leave at his apartment? It would only have to say he was doing fine and that he wouldn't be able to come home for a short while, and that he would explain when he got home. Even if it wasn't directly written by the MC, it would give her SOME piece of mind.
- May 9, 2020
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I got the impression that you played the game from the start from this release. If that is the case, could you please elaborate this a bit?
And that goes for anyone who played the game for the first time from this release, or from version 0.1. I'd like to know if this is exclusive to people who first played 0.2 version, or if it is the general opinion.
I find it lacking as well. There was something different that I wanted to experiment with, but I didn't, and I regret it. If it's not too much trouble, could you try and elaborate a bit?
- Jan 19, 2020
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I feel like at this point I should reiterate what this project is about, because I feel like some people are getting wrong impression of its priorities, and I know I might get some slack but I still feel like it's something I need to do.
"This is meant to be first and foremost a learning project. Therefore any kind of criticism is both welcomed and much appreciated."
I see the second part is often quoted by some... let's say overly zealous and strongly opinionated individuals, but the first part tends to be discarded.
Allow me to expand a bit, maybe offer some insight into my thought process, maybe help put things into perspective: this project is not my favorite brainchild that I want to protect by any means, that I want to nourish and see it grow or make a career out of.
This project was meant to build on my strengths and practice everything else I'm lacking. Apart from the main story, character details and some character development this project is an ad hoc ensemble of various ideas and practices. Its main goal is to familiarize myself with the workflow of making a game and test if my hypotheses are correct, incorrect or unrefined. It's meant for me to get a hang of writing in English, converting scenes from my head into decent dialogue, improve rendering times (and at some points quality) and familiarize myself with various tools and tricks of the trade, get a hang of programming in ASL and Python, test how various ideas would be received by the public, find acceptable management system and many, many other things.
If my purpose was to create a game that I could make a decent amount of money from, I'd have made a slice of life romcom/sitcom, stuck a camera into Smoothface McLongdick's head and glued him on a conveyor belt called "story" which is for the most part an excuse to interact with a few supermodels in skimpy outfits, and then stuck as many looping animations in the whole thing as I could. Bonus points if supermodels have more than two defining characteristics and/or a hidden aspect of personality, if choices are more than "Look at her tits"/"Don't", if there are amenities such as character galleries etc.
But I chose to make something different, at least in some aspects. And I did so purposefully because I know I don't want to make that kind of game, or at least not at this time, and more importantly I want to use this oportunity to experiment as much as I can. I've made something without gratuitous sex scenes and plentiful animations, with more realistic looking models that have more realistic proportions (IMHO), each with their own background, motivation and personality, with different kinds of humor and yes, unlikable characters that aren't automatically your adversaries, where MC is not the center of the world around whom everything revolves, but just another POV character.
Don't get me wrong, I am not a snob. I do not think myself or this experiment (and I cannot emphasize this enough) as something that is just too refined for people's taste. It's completely understandable and expected that people are not here for this kind of story. Hell, I love my favorite VN, but apart from checking out the next chapter in the story, I don't touch it. Meanwhile some other games that are more gratuitous I visit frequently, so to pretend as if what I'm making here was in any way shape or form better than the norm would be at the very least hypocritical.
Anyway, I've been ranting for far too long, and it's time to summarize what I wanted to convey - I'm not making this project to become famous, to satisfy the needs and wants of the community, or to build an alternative source of income. It's meant to be first and foremost a learning project.
Perverse as it sounds, I'd rather not have this project become successful, because it would make ending it or dropping it, yes, maybe even as early as this version or next version, as some viciously suggested, that much more guilt free, and moving on to a project that I am truly passionate about that much easier.
Hope that clears some air.
"This is meant to be first and foremost a learning project. Therefore any kind of criticism is both welcomed and much appreciated."
I see the second part is often quoted by some... let's say overly zealous and strongly opinionated individuals, but the first part tends to be discarded.
Allow me to expand a bit, maybe offer some insight into my thought process, maybe help put things into perspective: this project is not my favorite brainchild that I want to protect by any means, that I want to nourish and see it grow or make a career out of.
This project was meant to build on my strengths and practice everything else I'm lacking. Apart from the main story, character details and some character development this project is an ad hoc ensemble of various ideas and practices. Its main goal is to familiarize myself with the workflow of making a game and test if my hypotheses are correct, incorrect or unrefined. It's meant for me to get a hang of writing in English, converting scenes from my head into decent dialogue, improve rendering times (and at some points quality) and familiarize myself with various tools and tricks of the trade, get a hang of programming in ASL and Python, test how various ideas would be received by the public, find acceptable management system and many, many other things.
If my purpose was to create a game that I could make a decent amount of money from, I'd have made a slice of life romcom/sitcom, stuck a camera into Smoothface McLongdick's head and glued him on a conveyor belt called "story" which is for the most part an excuse to interact with a few supermodels in skimpy outfits, and then stuck as many looping animations in the whole thing as I could. Bonus points if supermodels have more than two defining characteristics and/or a hidden aspect of personality, if choices are more than "Look at her tits"/"Don't", if there are amenities such as character galleries etc.
But I chose to make something different, at least in some aspects. And I did so purposefully because I know I don't want to make that kind of game, or at least not at this time, and more importantly I want to use this oportunity to experiment as much as I can. I've made something without gratuitous sex scenes and plentiful animations, with more realistic looking models that have more realistic proportions (IMHO), each with their own background, motivation and personality, with different kinds of humor and yes, unlikable characters that aren't automatically your adversaries, where MC is not the center of the world around whom everything revolves, but just another POV character.
Don't get me wrong, I am not a snob. I do not think myself or this experiment (and I cannot emphasize this enough) as something that is just too refined for people's taste. It's completely understandable and expected that people are not here for this kind of story. Hell, I love my favorite VN, but apart from checking out the next chapter in the story, I don't touch it. Meanwhile some other games that are more gratuitous I visit frequently, so to pretend as if what I'm making here was in any way shape or form better than the norm would be at the very least hypocritical.
Anyway, I've been ranting for far too long, and it's time to summarize what I wanted to convey - I'm not making this project to become famous, to satisfy the needs and wants of the community, or to build an alternative source of income. It's meant to be first and foremost a learning project.
Perverse as it sounds, I'd rather not have this project become successful, because it would make ending it or dropping it, yes, maybe even as early as this version or next version, as some viciously suggested, that much more guilt free, and moving on to a project that I am truly passionate about that much easier.
Hope that clears some air.
Madmate, sorry I didn't really make it clear I meant both, it just took me out of the game as it kind of came out of nowhere, I did think the MC was much better in this update and a bit of freeroam isn't a bad thing if done well and you have the makings of a good game here
I was more annoyed with Anna's route being closed if we choose malady, but that's just me being greedy
I was more annoyed with Anna's route being closed if we choose malady, but that's just me being greedy
- Oct 23, 2016
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I have to say though, that dropping a project, even if it is meant as a learning experience is never a good thing.
And that is especially if the game doesn't already have a large following.
Some devs managed to drop relatively successful games and just start a new one and still were/are successful, but for those whose projects aren't raking in the dough, leaving two or even just one project unfinished can make all the difference when it comes to support.
Because if you don't already have several 100 patrons and your only credit is an unfinished mess, NO ONE will want to invest into your next "serious" project.
Patreon is lined with ghost accounts of devs who thought dropping a project and just starting the next one will not hurt them or maybe even bring in more support.
Not everyone is a Dark Silver or Slonique (and isn't it really good that this is the case ? )
And that is especially if the game doesn't already have a large following.
Some devs managed to drop relatively successful games and just start a new one and still were/are successful, but for those whose projects aren't raking in the dough, leaving two or even just one project unfinished can make all the difference when it comes to support.
Because if you don't already have several 100 patrons and your only credit is an unfinished mess, NO ONE will want to invest into your next "serious" project.
Patreon is lined with ghost accounts of devs who thought dropping a project and just starting the next one will not hurt them or maybe even bring in more support.
Not everyone is a Dark Silver or Slonique (and isn't it really good that this is the case
? )