Ren'Py Completed Room for Rent [v16 beta] [CeLaVie Group]

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Tabu9000

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I have play from the black end with the save file.
I think is buggy because the hints only say "keep play" or something like that, but there aren't any new event..anyway i will try for the save 3.1
Thank u for the help
There are no new events compare to v3.0b only some hot picture when you get the last black screen and play one or two days more.
When you start with black screen finish " v2.4 ....continue with 3.1 .
Do 3 hints this day when she left at 10 am - Office order studio, then washroom sand-wash swimsuit, then washroom again 17.00 not wash your clothes go again and soap her pink-night wear. The hints at 23.00 will say " keep play" until you not finish all images and events with this what you just done. Don´t forget the Dinner set at 19.00 pm all 3 option. All not in the location patch where she is.If you done all 23.00 master-room you get new hints go to pc at 11.00 am skin-skin lesson, not in the patch at all.

Be care-full TV room and when her door open at midnight in the beginning, don´t make her mad.

Never play 3.1 new you lost in many bugs.
 
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The hints mean with the save 1-1-Lt1 either "keep playing" you not finish the events this day like 3 the first day or to trigger all images with this, before a new hints appears. No patch will help here because there trigger only her location and not set the dinner-room at 19.00 if these images are missing you play until next year.
"Keep playing" say you miss some in this period before a new appears.
 
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Tabu9000

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100% true!

reminds me on joke:
hey son, go to the groceries and get 1 bread. If they have eggs, please bring a dozen.
... some times later......
WTF? Why did you bring 12 bread? ... But mom, they had eggs.

The devs code over here works something like that ;)

A joke for you:
Look out to the window " you see the 2 dogs down there, try this with your wife" -WTF- and how it works ? Yea but the hard part to get her on the street.
 
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The Dev have something to say here: He send this

Thanks for your input. The problem is not spaghetti code, but the fact that my ambitions have been higher than my test skills. I know that many clean up the codes, but that will require that you all start from scratch again. One thing I want to avoid. In this version there are more than 2.100 images - and she change cloth very often and I want the story as linear as possible. Many games often have situations where you in one room meet the girl ready to be fucked and in next room she is too shy to do anything. That doesn't make sense. Please also notice that this is a game not a novel. Many players are stuck because they simply not read the communications, but just click until next option appears.

Concerning pirates. I can't avoid and I don't want to avoid that somebody at a certain time share the game. As I have wrote before - it is a paradox that you as creator on one side use the forums to make your game well known and at the other side - the same forums share your game for free. What really pissed me off - when one of my beta testers shared a non finished version. That gives my game a very bad reputation and that is even worse than somebody share the final version. Back to the variables issues - In 3_5 that will be send to beta testers on Saturday - I have changed it - so the path through will be less complex and that will for sure avoid many bugs.

A joke for you:
Look out to the window " you see the 2 dogs down there, try this with your wife" -WTF- and how it works ? Yea but the hard part to get her on the street.
ok - one more time (you may forward this to the dev if you want):

1.) I played version 3.1 and NOT 3.5
2.) I expect a game to be as stable as possible once it is published. If a dev knows about gamebreaking bugs and even releases a game version just that something is released at all thats unproffessional
3.) I READ the ingame conversations, but if the ingame conversation tells me, that i schould destroy the summer dress while she is in school, and i know how to destroy the dress (Washing room), but even there is no trigger to do that between 10:00 and 13:00, thats a no-go. I know the scene because i solved that once before, but as savegames break the game, i started a new game right at this version. (Note: this is just ONE example out of many)
4.) Next point - scripting a game and to announce that earlier savegames dont work, but same time we are told this:
Never play 3.1 new you lost in many bugs.
..so there is something wrong.. isn't it?
5.) Why doesn't the dev hear on his playerbase? Why does he still block ability to save whenever player want? Even the "workaround" which was used to make savegames at each point (small menu below conversation text) is now closed.
6.) In new update notes there is a hint system announced at 23:00 in MC Bedroom - but for me it is not there

Does the dev really think that people throw him money just because he is "a good guy"? Most games are checked over here after several updates, and just those who convinced to be worth to support get THEN supporters on patreon or elsewhere. Just to expect to raise supporters out of nowhere is silly. Yes, this is a pirate site - but to be honest:

WITHOUT THIS SITE MOST GAMES WOULD NOT EVEN BE NOTICED AT ALL
AND NEVER GET ANY SUPPORTERS !!!


Finally:
.... The problem is not spaghetti code, but the fact that my ambitions have been higher than my test skills. I know that many clean up the codes, but that will require that you all start from scratch again. One thing I want to avoid. ...
So the dev even KNOWS that there is a mess and he just "want to avoid" to do something against this?
Sorry, but the things get even worse.
 
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You can save whenever you want, all the dev has done is disable the right mouse button. To save just hit the F1 key to bring up the splash menu screen.
 

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ok - one more time (you may forward this to the dev if you want):

1.) I played version 3.1 and NOT 3.5
2.) I expect a game to be as stable as possible once it is published. If a dev knows about gamebreaking bugs and even releases a game version just that something is released at all thats unproffessional
3.) I READ the ingame conversations, but if the ingame conversation tells me, that i schould destroy the summer dress while she is in school, and i know how to destroy the dress (Washing room), but even there is no trigger to do that between 10:00 and 13:00, thats a no-go. I know the scene because i solved that once before, but as savegames break the game, i started a new game right at this version. (Note: this is just ONE example out of many)
4.) Next point - scripting a game and to announce that earlier savegames dont work, but same time we are told this:

..so there is something wrong.. isn't it?
5.) Why doesn't the dev hear on his playerbase? Why does he still block ability to save whenever player want? Even the "workaround" which was used to make savegames at each point (small menu below conversation text) is now closed.
6.) In new update notes there is a hint system announced at 23:00 in MC Bedroom - but for me it is not there

Does the dev really think that people throw him money just because he is "a good guy"? Most games are checked over here after several updates, and just those who convinced to be worth to support get THEN supporters on patreon or elsewhere. Just to expect to raise supporters out of nowhere is silly. Yes, this is a pirate site - but to be honest:

WITHOUT THIS SITE MOST GAMES WOULD NOT EVEN BE NOTICED AT ALL
AND NEVER GET ANY SUPPORTERS !!!


Finally:


So the dev even KNOWS that there is a mess and he just "want to avoid" to do something against this?
Sorry, but the things get even worse.
1. First of all, the Dev never published here a game at all even v3.1
2.It´s better not read in-game in v3.1 instead follow the advice from Dev how to start this version. Otherwise in end like this, as you mention above, bad enough. The hints are there if you not start a new game . I can send picture or saves to proof that you are wrong and I´m not a magician! I just play with the 1-1-Lt1 save there send here from v2.4 to start with v3.1 until end and no bugs.
5.You can save with F1 anytime.

Finally:
You don´t to be patriot for this side, until we have the wrong OP here or only links without " change logs " to play a version.
 

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1. First of all, the Dev never published here a game at all even v3.1
2.It´s better not read in-game in v3.1 instead follow the advice from Dev how to start this version. Otherwise in end like this, as you mention above, bad enough. The hints are there if you not start a new game . I can send picture or saves to proof that you are wrong and I´m not a magician! I just play with the 1-1-Lt1 save there send here from v2.4 to start with v3.1 until end and no bugs.
5.You can save with F1 anytime.

Finally:
You don´t to be patriot for this side, until we have the wrong OP here or only links without " change logs " to play a version.
you may be right, but you also might understand that i (and i think most of other user think same) dont want to play a game like "before start you have to unzip that and copy to there, then make that decision but dont do "this" before you have done "another thing"....... and so on.
I expect a game to be able to start - to play and finally to finish. This game does not deliver that at all right now. So i do as i did. I stand by my review that this game is a mess right now. Hopefully somedays it will be fixed and work as intended to be from STARTUP a new game until end. I deny to play another savegame from later point, because i want to have the feeling of games experiences my own. A game should be made for each player - and not just to finish another ones savegame!!!
Maybe someday i will do another try and if the games is even better then i will redo my review - but for now i just can recommend NOT TO PLAY - there are too much other games out there which are lot more worth to do (sorry dev)
 

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you may be right, but you also might understand that i (and i think most of other user think same) dont want to play a game like "before start you have to unzip that and copy to there, then make that decision but dont do "this" before you have done "another thing"....... and so on.
I expect a game to be able to start - to play and finally to finish. This game does not deliver that at all right now. So i do as i did. I stand by my review that this game is a mess right now. Hopefully somedays it will be fixed and work as intended to be from STARTUP a new game until end. I deny to play another savegame from later point, because i want to have the feeling of games experiences my own. A game should be made for each player - and not just to finish another ones savegame!!!
Maybe someday i will do another try and if the games is even better then i will redo my review - but for now i just can recommend NOT TO PLAY - there are too much other games out there which are lot more worth to do (sorry dev)
I respect your points, and I´m pissed sometimes to wait for 5 month to get the next step, in this case there are fast but to many errors make me also mad. Anyway good luck and maybe see you later here.
 
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Hello all
I am the guy who make this game.
Unfortunately a trusted beta tester shared a non complete version of this game. This is why you all stuck in the game. I don't mind that the game will be shared at a certain time, but sharing a non complete game really piss me off because it leave my game as some poor shit.
The game consist of more than 2.100 images and with a huge numbers of variations. I am doing my best to make it as linear as possible and that cause some issues. The major changes in clothes also cause bugs. The game is still in its early stage so...
If you find a bug just write to me - even if you are not a member - I am always thankful for any hints that will make my game better.
Cheers
Bob
 

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Hello all
I am the guy who make this game.
Unfortunately a trusted beta tester shared a non complete version of this game. This is why you all stuck in the game. I don't mind that the game will be shared at a certain time, but sharing a non complete game really piss me off because it leave my game as some poor shit.
The game consist of more than 2.100 images and with a huge numbers of variations. I am doing my best to make it as linear as possible and that cause some issues. The major changes in clothes also cause bugs. The game is still in its early stage so...
If you find a bug just write to me - even if you are not a member - I am always thankful for any hints that will make my game better.
Cheers
Bob
Hello Bob
 

deviant9

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Hello all
I am the guy who make this game.
Unfortunately a trusted beta tester shared a non complete version of this game. This is why you all stuck in the game. I don't mind that the game will be shared at a certain time, but sharing a non complete game really piss me off because it leave my game as some poor shit.
The game consist of more than 2.100 images and with a huge numbers of variations. I am doing my best to make it as linear as possible and that cause some issues. The major changes in clothes also cause bugs. The game is still in its early stage so...
If you find a bug just write to me - even if you are not a member - I am always thankful for any hints that will make my game better.
Cheers
Bob
Hi, really many of us went through serious issues with version 2.4, but they stayed because the game really has the potential to be something different than most. Plus the great graphics! Maybe our comments still helped you identify some of the gaps and gave you some ideas, with which we made up for the free lunch a little. If this game retains its style and does not quickly turn into 3D porn, I would also be happy to become your supporter.
Greetings.
 
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Hi, really many of us went through serious issues with version 2.4, but they stayed because the game really has the potential to be something different than most. Plus the great graphics! Maybe our comments still helped you identify some of the gaps and gave you some ideas, with which we made up for the free lunch a little. If this game retains its style and does not quickly turn into 3D porn, I would also be happy to become your supporter.
Greetings.
Thanks for the nice words. Today one of my supporters just noticed that lot of things going on here - so this the first time I see it. I am aware about all the issues and I have really tried to solve them as fast as possible. As I have mentioned there are zillions of combinations and it is impossible to find and solve them all - even my beta testers found everything. You are all welcome to inform me about bugs and I will try to solve them all. I don't need to share it as "thank you" because someone will do that anyhow :p:p:p

I see that many have made a comment about incest and underage etc. We all know that Patreon is extremely sensible to that - so - to avoid any issue I just wrote it....and I have no problems with them at all....

Many have also made comments about the old man - Of course - this is the part of the game - and just wait to the end - that will explain it all.

I have spend 2 years learning all this and made another game that has never been published. I have also spend my time supporting other game-makers with good ideas and as beta tester. That is why you see something similar in other games.

There have also been comments about the Tiers - and especially the USD 100 Tier. In fact I have several of these supporters. It's not my intention to have many of these but they make me able to invest more in this game. For me I prefer to have few supporters that I can support 100 % than 1000 supporters at USD 1 that I can't give any support at all.
 

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Hello all
I am the guy who make this game.
Unfortunately a trusted beta tester shared a non complete version of this game. This is why you all stuck in the game. I don't mind that the game will be shared at a certain time, but sharing a non complete game really piss me off because it leave my game as some poor shit.
The game consist of more than 2.100 images and with a huge numbers of variations. I am doing my best to make it as linear as possible and that cause some issues. The major changes in clothes also cause bugs. The game is still in its early stage so...
If you find a bug just write to me - even if you are not a member - I am always thankful for any hints that will make my game better.
Cheers
Bob
It is good to hear from the creator of the game and it shows how much passion you have for it. I really like how the game is progressing. The pacing is spot on, not like other games that rush in fast. It is close to like how Melody and Dating my Daughter in story telling.

A suggestion that I would make that could make the game better is to maybe separate the game into chapter files instead of having everything in one file. You could make the chapters run for a minimum three-week period for the most efficient route before you need to go to the next chapter. Benefits for doing this is to keep the file size small (with more version coming out in the future I can see this game easily going to 1-2 Gb). You could add more content for those three weeks. Also the game will load better when smaller and be able to spot bugs quicker and this will not carry over into other chapters. Also it will save players from having to dowmload the same content over and over again.

As a suggestion, the first chapter should include all the content up to V2.4. The second chapter from v3.0 to V3.5.
 
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Thanks for the nice words. Today one of my supporters just noticed that lot of things going on here - so this the first time I see it. I am aware about all the issues and I have really tried to solve them as fast as possible. As I have mentioned there are zillions of combinations and it is impossible to find and solve them all - even my beta testers found everything. You are all welcome to inform me about bugs and I will try to solve them all. I don't need to share it as "thank you" because someone will do that anyhow :p:p:p

I see that many have made a comment about incest and underage etc. We all know that Patreon is extremely sensible to that - so - to avoid any issue I just wrote it....and I have no problems with them at all....

Many have also made comments about the old man - Of course - this is the part of the game - and just wait to the end - that will explain it all.

I have spend 2 years learning all this and made another game that has never been published. I have also spend my time supporting other game-makers with good ideas and as beta tester. That is why you see something similar in other games.

There have also been comments about the Tiers - and especially the USD 100 Tier. In fact I have several of these supporters. It's not my intention to have many of these but they make me able to invest more in this game. For me I prefer to have few supporters that I can support 100 % than 1000 supporters at USD 1 that I can't give any support at all.
Hello to the new cool developer on our site !! Thank you for your game well done !! :love: (y)
 
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@ Celaviegroup :
Nice to see the dev over here. That shows that you are open to constructive critics basicially.
Really appreciate this and i hope this is not just a "one-time-thing" - keeping in close contact to community is a need for success (and i bet, F95 community is one of the biggest, if not even THE biggest)

PS: i wrote some lines in private too - not all words should be for all ears ;)
 
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i re-raised the review from 1 star back to 2 stars after private conversation with dev Celaviegroup .
I recognized that the dev is very responsible for constructive critics and even is aware about major bugs and the need for a better hint-system and/or walkthrough. He told me that there will be some changes in further versions to fix all that.
So i went back to my origin 2 stars and give the dev some more time to get things better.
I will re-visit this game after 2-3 further updates and maybe adjust review then again.
 

Tabu9000

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Hello all
I am the guy who make this game.
Unfortunately a trusted beta tester shared a non complete version of this game. This is why you all stuck in the game. I don't mind that the game will be shared at a certain time, but sharing a non complete game really piss me off because it leave my game as some poor shit.
The game consist of more than 2.100 images and with a huge numbers of variations. I am doing my best to make it as linear as possible and that cause some issues. The major changes in clothes also cause bugs. The game is still in its early stage so...
If you find a bug just write to me - even if you are not a member - I am always thankful for any hints that will make my game better.
Cheers
Bob
Hi Bob, that´s my best day to see you here, I´m glad to act this way, all guys can help to race your game to 5 stars soon.
I hope you forgive me to use a "corner" in my post to you, but I don´t like to hide behind a great game-maker. cheers
 
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