marnosta

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Dec 21, 2019
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Some of the power changes/nerfs really just drag down the pace of the game. They should’ve focused on buying a pasta fork to deal with that spaghetti code.
try out ranger it’s by far the most OP class and available right from the start after you do little side quest, you can one-shot anything.
 

gumeman

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Dec 9, 2021
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can anyone help me with Rina, i already have anti pregnant, rope and strong brandy but she still need something
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Mar 7, 2021
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Cool memes, Jack.
But yeah, this game is a disaster as a game in just about any aspect. The turn-based gameplay, the pacing, the characters, the writing, it's all awful. It's like babby's first RPGMaker project, except there's porn slapped into it.
Awful is wrong word for some aspects of this game, too strong of a word.

Gameplay isn't that bad in itself - its the balance devs fucked up beyond recognition that makes fights either a chore or a cakewalk. It was infinitely better and even really engaging in older versions, but it seems the more devs try to make it more elaborate, the worse it works. The core concept is workable, however, just in dire need of tunning.

Characters are a mixed bag, from talking slabs of stone like Gajah to Meredith or Katelyn, who has genuine character arcs throughout the game. There are also a couple of at least passable characters like Succubus or Mayla. The greatest issue by far is that there are some 100 (I think?) named characters, of whom a good dozen are party members. No way to give good characterization for all of them, its not Silmarillion.

Writing is mixed as well.
The main quest is mediocre at worst - heck, its almost a cookie-cutter fantasy plot about fighting Big Bad Evil Guy and his army of Small Bad Evil Goons, sprinkled with a local flavor. Its generic, but to be awful it must be much worse than just generic.
As for the writing of smaller quests - yeah, its not only generic in most cases, its also very bare bone in almost every case. The point of most of those quests is to set a quick prelude for a fuck-scene, so most of them do not evolve past being a prelude. And so there are only few interesting enough quests, most of which are companion quests that are by their very nature supposed to be deeper than the most.


What you can conclude from all of this, is that this game goes for volume before depth, for quantity over quality.

Is it bad? I would say a suprising thing - no, it isn't. Its game's actual strong suit, and the reason why I am still playing it despite all the issues with it and despite my harsh critique. This game has basically everything you would want, given you are willing to rummage through other content - and I am. You don't have to play several separate games to indulge in whatever fantasy you fancy at the moment - you can play through one.

Roundscape Adorevia is an all you can eat buffet - and it is so on purpose. Its not a mistake on devs' part - this is the game they've aimed for from the get-go, proven by the fact the game was always like this, from its earliest versions.

If what you want is a fancy restaraunt that has less, but with richer flavor - you are knocking on a wrong door, mate. This is a game about everything and nothing in particular - take from this fact what you want, but it is neither good, nor bad. Its just how this game is meant to be, and it is what it does the best.


And this is why my gripe with it are about polishing and never about content. Game's direction is exactly what I want, its game's quality as it stands now that makes me mad.
 

goodick

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Feb 2, 2021
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good afternoon my fellow men. I just reached Slinks, the new combat system is crap and make the battle stupidly hard. Anyone who already plays farther than me, is there another gypsy who sell agi/def/matk stat? the gypsy in starting city only sell hp/mp/atk.

Not to mention now every weapons have very low atk power, i cant understand why the devs making game this way. If they gonna remove stat growth from leveling up, at least let weapons have their normal atk power.
 

Kohan54

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Dec 1, 2021
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good afternoon my fellow men. I just reached Slinks, the new combat system is crap and make the battle stupidly hard. Anyone who already plays farther than me, is there another gypsy who sell agi/def/matk stat? the gypsy in starting city only sell hp/mp/atk.
I don't think didn't come across any and the items she sells didn't change for me with acts.

Items I was also mainly getting either HP / Attack boost.

There's a way to make game easy you just need to invest 1 or 2 levels in lockpicking and grab Cass staff in oakshire which imo may be even the best staff in the game.

Not to mention now every weapons have very low atk power, i cant understand why the devs making game this way. If they gonna remove stat growth from leveling up, at least let weapons have their normal atk power.
Greatsword having same attack as long swords.... :WeSmart:
 

Hakkira

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Jul 15, 2017
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Amazing that despite using AI on many old scenes to improve the look, somehow the Nexilin Matriarch is still looking like Zoidbergs potential wife...:sick:

At least that middle chest in the Temple is lootable now :sneaky:
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Mar 7, 2021
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Amazing that despite using AI on many old scenes to improve the look, somehow the Nexilin Matriarch is still looking like Zoidbergs potential wife...:sick:

At least that middle chest in the Temple is lootable now :sneaky:
Am I the only one who really like the Matriarch scene as it is?
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Mar 7, 2021
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To be honest it isn't that bad, but it is the tentacles on her vagina that I find a turnoff as it reminds me too much of that horror film where the womans pussy has teeth...:eek:
I find it hot. Tentacle vagina is the best of two worlds: vanilla and hardcore. So exotic and cool!

Besides - Matriarch, as befitting her title, is one heck of a MOMMY. We can always have more of them.
 

Paxfrost

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Aug 8, 2017
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Can anyone tell me what the last version with human art is, I would like the most up to date version without the god awful AI art. The newest version I have that dosent have AI is 5.8B
 

Gancoek

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Jul 26, 2018
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For those having problem with the combat system. Get the paladin class and set it as your class or subclass, I dont know what level but you will get a skill called light edict which just nuke enemies. You can remove Succubus from your active party member while doing this quest to prevent her from leaving (remove her as active party member from formation tab).
 

goodick

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Feb 2, 2021
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I don't think didn't come across any and the items she sells didn't change for me with acts.
Items I was also mainly getting either HP / Attack boost.
There's a way to make game easy you just need to invest 1 or 2 levels in lockpicking and grab Cass staff in oakshire which imo may be even the best staff in the game.
Greatsword having same attack as long swords.... :WeSmart:
my bro, it's not about making the game easier, it's about making the game not stupid. If they want to remove stats growth then make the gypsy sell every stats, not just hp/mp/atk. What's the point making my class mage/warlock if my matk stays at 1? whats the point making my class guardian when my def/mdef stays at 1? whats the point making equipping greatsword when long sword has same atk power and i can wear buckler?

devs just fucked up, but they dont want to admit it and revert back to previous combat system. At this point devs only guilt tripping and gaslighting patrons telling them the new combat system is supposed to be fun and they just gotta get used to it. They will keep telling things like we made this for you, please appreciate our effort, be patient while we attune the combat system. Same ol things politician would say.
 
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grbt420

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At this point devs only guilt tripping and gaslighting patrons telling them the new combat system is supposed to be fun and they just gotta get used to it. They will keep telling things like we made this for you, please appreciate our effort, be patient while we attune the combat system. Same ol things politician would say.
I don't know what these guys problem is tbh. they seem to hate galleries, didn't add one at all, just stole reds work then never kept it updated. Arenus had no save slots because they "want choices to matter" but like half the game runs on rng, even getting scenes. Then there's the Vesunna and Vesper questlines which both end up kicking players in the balls over grade school platitudes. I can't imagine giving them money at this point.
 

GrandPaBrowning

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This was one of the best scenes as it was. One of my favorite scens. Now it is, IMO, the very best AI-replacement so far, detail-wise.

But Meredith has no expression. Her face is blank. She looks away from her lovers. She shows no emotion. And no amount of details would replace emotions.

Thus, new scene is a complete turn-off to me. Honestly, I have no idea how anyone would feel attraction to something so blank and expressionless. Screw quality if it messes with more important part - expression.

They threw away some of the best pictures this game had in favor of something so bonerkillingly soulless.

P.S. The most comical part is that close-up part wasn't cropped from bigger picture but generated separately - and shows actual emotions!
 

gumeman

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Dec 9, 2021
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i have some bug at act3, when I used the crystal to teleport to other locations their names disappeared, and I couldn't reach Yakotin once I teleported to the castle
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