Ren'Py Rovering to Sussex [Ch. 3 v0.3.0] [Zargon_games & RFB]

[BYK370]

reflexbound any chance you gonna add more lesbian scene with Catherine and the other girl? Forgot the name

 

[reflexbound]

Kazuya1991 Maybe? Can't spoil too much, can I? Let's just say that Chapter 3 will have lots of fun.

They are all the best
And the guys aren't arseholes which is refreshing they are cool dudes as well
I think they would make for great friends if this was real life

Thanks, that's what I'm trying to achieve.

And after seeing that scene I think we might get a threesome with Charlotte & Peter in the future
Maybe even A DP who knows

Once again: Maybe? What do you think, do the recent events point into that (possible) direction? Maybe Chapter 3 will bring at least some answers?

Liam the Handyman I won't argue that the MC's character is a little lacking. And part of that is surely bad writing. It's the first time I do this and I'm much more of a programmer than a writer. But there's at least two more reasons.
One is I'm trying to have him be kind of a clean slate. I don't like it if MCs have a lot of character that I might not agree with. In many games, the MC reflects a lot the developer's (or intended audience's) tastes, like saying that all of the LIs are hot, or how they like anal, etc. Here, this is shaped a lot more by your actions: Fantasize about hairy girls and your MC will at times comment on how he likes some pubes, or fantasize about them being clean shaven and he'll do the opposite. Watch urination scenes and your MC will have that fetish, opt out of them and he won't, watch a lewd scene with a girl, or do something to get closer to her and your MC will be interested in her and call her hot, don't do that and he'll just be friendly but not interested, etc. This can make him feel a little bland especially right now, where we're still early in the game and the game just doesn't know much about your (MC's) tastes yet.
Second, I just don't want him to be an asshole. There's been a lot of discussion of whether this is wholesome or not, because some people don't like the voyeuristic and sharing options (that I promise will be less prominent soon, but having the MC get too much lewdness yet just didn't fit), but I'm trying to make it a game with a positive vibe, where everyone can be friends. I don't think this makes the MC beta or a cuck, but just a decent human being. In fact, he can and will be more assertive at least with some girls in the future, and he can already start being a little more proactive with at least Rachel and Vanessa in this release, even if it's still with lots of restraint.

 

[Joshy92]

Kazuya1991 Maybe? Can't spoil too much, can I? Let's just say that Chapter 3 will have lots of fun.


Thanks, that's what I'm trying to achieve.


Once again: Maybe? What do you think, do the recent events point into that (possible) direction? Maybe Chapter 3 will bring at least some answers?

Liam the Handyman I won't argue that the MC's character is a little lacking. And part of that is surely bad writing. It's the first time I do this and I'm much more of a programmer than a writer. But there's at least two more reasons.
One is I'm trying to have him be kind of a clean slate. I don't like it if MCs have a lot of character that I might not agree with. In many games, the MC reflects a lot the developer's (or intended audience's) tastes, like saying that all of the LIs are hot, or how they like anal, etc. Here, this is shaped a lot more by your actions: Fantasize about hairy girls and your MC will at times comment on how he likes some pubes, or fantasize about them being clean shaven and he'll do the opposite. Watch urination scenes and your MC will have that fetish, opt out of them and he won't, watch a lewd scene with a girl, or do something to get closer to her and your MC will be interested in her and call her hot, don't do that and he'll just be friendly but not interested, etc. This can make him feel a little bland especially right now, where we're still early in the game and the game just doesn't know much about your (MC's) tastes yet.
Second, I just don't want him to be an asshole. There's been a lot of discussion of whether this is wholesome or not, because some people don't like the voyeuristic and sharing options (that I promise will be less prominent soon, but having the MC get too much lewdness yet just didn't fit), but I'm trying to make it a game with a positive vibe, where everyone can be friends. I don't think this makes the MC beta or a cuck, but just a decent human being. In fact, he can and will be more assertive at least with some girls in the future, and he can already start being a little more proactive with at least Rachel and Vanessa in this release, even if it's still with lots of restraint.

I couldn't agree more with what you are saying about the mc
I have played some games where the mc said stuff like a girl was hot or he couldn't wait to bang her
even if I avoided her all game lol

I also agree about making the mc a good guy
A lot of games have a douchebag mc
I think it ruins the game tbh

 

[Yngling]

There's been a lot of discussion of whether this is wholesome or not, because some people don't like the voyeuristic and sharing options (that I promise will be less prominent soon, but having the MC get too much lewdness yet just didn't fit), but I'm trying to make it a game with a positive vibe, where everyone can be friends. I don't think this makes the MC beta or a cuck, but just a decent human being. In fact, he can and will be more assertive at least with some girls in the future, and he can already start being a little more proactive with at least Rachel and Vanessa in this release, even if it's still with lots of restraint.

I do get what you are trying to achieve, and I think it is something that is sorely missed in many AVN's and probably more wholesome than a harem game (which, if you think about it, isn't wholesome at all).

But I am completely honest, this last update did actually have too much voyeurism for my taste, and to a point, the MC did come across as a kind of beta cuck.

It is time that he does get a bit more assertive and gets more action of some kind (and I don't mean someone else's leftovers).

To me, how he's going to act toward Helen will be critical. She's clearly desirable, hopefully a virgin, and nobody's girlfriend yet, although Steve has an eye on her. The MC simply cannot let Steve win. That the MC acknowledges this himself gives me enough reassurance at the moment, but I do hope the story follows through here.

More or less the same goes for Rachel, although it seems the MC has a bit more time because nobody else seems after her at the moment. And because she seems to be quite conservative, she may need more time as well. Which is perfectly fine with me.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I wonder how many of you got the scene where MC and Vanessa kiss.

 

[Joshy92]

I do get what you are trying to achieve, and I think it is something that is sorely missed in many AVN's and probably more wholesome than a harem game (which, if you think about it, isn't wholesome at all).

But I am completely honest, this last update did actually have too much voyeurism for my taste, and to a point, the MC did come across as a kind of beta cuck.

It is time that he does get a bit more assertive and gets more action of some kind (and I don't mean someone else's leftovers).

To me, how he's going to act toward Helen will be critical. She's clearly desirable, hopefully a virgin, and nobody's girlfriend yet, although Steve has an eye on her. The MC simply cannot let Steve win. That the MC acknowledges this himself gives me enough reassurance at the moment, but I do hope the story follows through here.

More or less the same goes for Rachel, although it seems the MC has a bit more time because nobody else seems after her at the moment. And because she seems to be quite conservative, she may need more time as well. Which is perfectly fine with me.

I actually kinda disagree about the cuck stuff
Wouldn't he have to have a girlfriend to be a cuck?
now maybe if he got with Helen & shared her with Steve
You could call him one but even that would be a stretch imo

 

[Yngling]

I actually kinda disagree about the cuck stuff
Wouldn't he have to have a girlfriend to be a cuck?
now maybe if he got with Helen & shared her with Steve
You could call him one but even that would be a stretch imo

Technically you are correct and I also realise I am exaggerating.

What I mean to say is that in those scenes, the MC seems content with only watching. That is not healthy behaviour. Regardlesss of what kind of porn fetish someone wants to apply to it.

 

[Joshy92]

I wonder how many of you got the scene
I did on one of my saves of course I have made a mess of my saves already lol
I think i'll have to do a fresh playthrough at one point before the next chapter lol

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I wonder how many of you got the scene where MC and Vanessa kiss.

Probably very few - iirc it's predicated on answering the nightwatch and star questions correctly; which aren't well telegraphed; many of the answers seem ambiguous/synonymous.

 

[Joshy92]

Technically you are correct and I also realise I am exaggerating.

What I mean to say is that in those scenes, the MC seems content with only watching. That is not healthy behaviour. Regardlesss of what kind of porn fetish someone wants to apply to it.

Yeah, He will get some action next chapter tho
who do you think he will bang first?
Because I think it might be Catherine after all she gave him a Blowjob already.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Probably very few - iirc it's predicated on answering the nightwatch and star questions correctly; which aren't well telegraphed; many of the answers seem ambiguous/synonymous.

It's something I brought up during testing. But this is how you get the scene: Meet her at the café in week 3, do the chicken fight with her in week 4 (and win as much as possible), talk to her during the hike, volunteer for the tents, get a high social and low athletic trait.

 

[Joshy92]

It's something I brought up during testing. But this is how you get the scene: Meet her at the café in week 3, do the chicken fight with her in week 4 (and win as much as possible), talk to her during the hike, volunteer for the tents, get a high social and low athletic trait.

I replied before but for some reason it put both our quotes together
Anyway I got the scene it was unexpected lol this dev keeps surprising me

 

[Yngling]

Yeah, He will get some action next chapter tho
who do you think he will bang first?
Because I think it might be Catherine after all she gave him a Blowjob already.

Probably Catherine indeed, or perhaps Katie. Although I think that would a kind of dick move, as she clearly has some problems, and deserves love instead of "rape". To be honest, I try to avoid Catherine, I think she's bad news, even though she seems nice enough.

I hope the MC makes out with Helen (preferably in public) in the next update. After that, it can take a while before it progresses further, but then at least Steve should no longer be a threat.

 

[Joshy92]

Probably Catherine indeed, or perhaps Katie. Although I think that would a kind of dick move, as she clearly has some problems, and deserves love instead of "rape". To be honest, I try to avoid Catherine, I think she's bad news, even though she seems nice enough.

I hope the MC makes out with Helen (preferably in public) in the next update. After that, it can take a while before it progresses further, but then at least Steve should no longer be a threat.

I actually like Catherine
I'll be honest girls who are free spirited like her turn me on big time.

 

[Yngling]

Regarding your third point, if the MC does stay to watch, what is the realistic alternative to watching passively? I can't imagine what the MC could actively do in that situation without a serious risk of alienating the two participants and likely the entire group to which he is still a newbie.

He could do the thing most people would probably do, to not go looking for it, and if he would accidentally stumble upon it, quickly and quietly go away.

But, this is a porn game, so hardly anybody is going to do that. This is somewhat problematic. Being a voyeur makes the MC come across as beta, but who's going to pass up free sex scenes, even if with NPC's? Personally I watch the scene and then load the previous save and avoid for my main playthrough.

 

[Bruce F. Lee]

He could do the thing most people would probably do, to not go looking for it, and if he would accidentally stumble upon it, quickly and quietly go away.

But, this is a porn game, so hardly anybody is going to do that. This is somewhat problematic. Being a voyeur makes the MC come across as beta, but who's going to pass up free sex scenes, even if with NPC's? Personally I watch the scene and then load the previous save and avoid for my main playthrough.

Okay, now I understand your point. It's kind of hard to blame the game

I wonder how many of you got the scene where MC and Vanessa kiss.

I was using Sancho's mod, so yes (but I cheated).

 

[reflexbound]

But I am completely honest, this last update did actually have too much voyeurism for my taste, and to a point, the MC did come across as a kind of beta cuck.

It is time that he does get a bit more assertive and gets more action of some kind (and I don't mean someone else's leftovers).

He will, right in the next chapter. Yes, the last one had a lot of voyeurism, but I felt this was necessary to show you the relationships that are already in place and how they work out so far. But now, as he has become less of an outsider/newbie and more of an actual friend, he's in a position to get a lot more out of this.

To me, how he's going to act toward Helen will be critical. She's clearly desirable, hopefully a virgin, and nobody's girlfriend yet, although Steve has an eye on her. The MC simply cannot let Steve win. That the MC acknowledges this himself gives me enough reassurance at the moment, but I do hope the story follows through here.

This will totally depend on what you decide as you play. Want to pursue her? Go for it, your chances are good, at least with the right moves and personality. Don't pursue her and Steve might get a chance.

I wonder how many of you got the scene where MC and Vanessa kiss.

It's something I brought up during testing. But this is how you get the scene: Meet her at the café in week 3, do the chicken fight with her in week 4 (and win as much as possible), talk to her during the hike, volunteer for the tents, get a high social and low athletic trait.

The requirements were lowered slightly since the beta test and you can achieve the scene even if you missed one of these completely.

Yeah, He will get some action next chapter tho
who do you think he will bang first?
Because I think it might be Catherine after all she gave him a Blowjob already.

I replied before but for some reason it put both our quotes together
Anyway I got the scene it was unexpected lol this dev keeps surprising me

Maybe I'll keep surprising you?

He could do the thing most people would probably do, to not go looking for it, and if he would accidentally stumble upon it, quickly and quietly go away.

But, this is a porn game, so hardly anybody is going to do that. This is somewhat problematic. Being a voyeur makes the MC come across as beta, but who's going to pass up free sex scenes, even if with NPC's? Personally I watch the scene and then load the previous save and avoid for my main playthrough.

It's kind of your fault then, though? If you don't want (him) to do it, don't I do get not wanting to miss out on the scenes, so I'd probably do the same as you. But I don't think you can blame the game or the MC's personality for your choices. You can totally play the game without ever peeping on anybody. Actually, it may sometimes be detrimental to do so, just saying.

 

[Joshy92]

Oh, don't worry I'll definitely peep when given the option

Maybe the mc should take stealth lessons from Solid Snake (Some of you might know who he is)

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Probably Catherine indeed, or perhaps Katie. Although I think that would a kind of dick move, as she clearly has some problems, and deserves love instead of "rape". To be honest, I try to avoid Catherine, I think she's bad news, even though she seems nice enough.

I hope the MC makes out with Helen (preferably in public) in the next update. After that, it can take a while before it progresses further, but then at least Steve should no longer be a threat.

Same on Catherine, there's something about her offputting to me; no no it's not the threesome event; even after that her personality just comes across as 'floozy' or 'cheap'.

It's something I brought up during testing. But this is how you get the scene: Meet her at the café in week 3, do the chicken fight with her in week 4 (and win as much as possible), talk to her during the hike, volunteer for the tents, get a high social and low athletic trait.

Oh good to know.

One trend I noticed on 'telegraphing' I would change is that often the characters DO reveal preferences after choices, but at that point it's too late which forces you to savescum or rollback which feels cheaty to me. Examples would be how upon initially meeting the group, different characters react to hobbies - say social stuff and i think Vanessa perks up, say reading and charlotte perks up, etc. Or bring up politics with Peter and Charlotte shies away.

To me a better way of doing this would be some kind of faint hint prior to the decision - e.g. perhaps Peter and Charlotte are talking with mc at party, and Peter brings up politics, and you see a slight eyeroll/eye raise from Charlotte; then player is given the choice to talk about politics or change subject - same idea with other situations.

Maybe the mc should take stealth lessons from Solid Snake (Some of you might know who he is)

Of course I know Solid Snake, he played the character "Steve Rambo" in several classic movies.

 

[DarknessDai]

so in this game we will be able to have relationship with one of the girls and have choice to share her with other guys >?