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So I just played through the game rather quickly; I have to admit the general foundation for a story, the characters, the art and even sex scene type of stuff I'm into most of it... What I hate is the game being halfway done (0.5 unless the creator is doing that bs where 1.1 is a thing and isn't DLC, just saying usually aside from dlc/patches 1.0 is usually a complete game) and there only being 1 sex scene (the one in the original post). I could somehow be wrong, but I'm missing Kira's final 3 cg's.

So pretty much my only complaint so far is there isn't too much in the game, that will change with time and I also assume this is a secondary project, the main one being their other game which is a ton ahead in development judging by the walkthrough for it being lengthy (I'll check that one out later). I'm probably just getting annoyed at seeing 0.4-0.9 in games and then finding out that there is either no sex, or only a couple of lesser characters have it.

As someone wanting to at least make 1 game of their own on here at some point, I can't support the idea of leaving the best characters scenes for last in games. These are usually the kinks, for example having the incest part of a game be the last to be fully developed. I usually believe the best way to do it is in a story with incest for example, have the incest mostly be mid game, have the late game be whatever you want it to.
I make stories by thinking of an ending, random stuff throughout and then a beginning and then work to that ending.
In the case of these styles of games usually that ending is a pregnancy route, or a marriage route so on. That being said if the main character in this game halfway through had at least fucked 1 relative I'd find it somewhat reasonable. But to find out the only sex he has had so far is with a girl he barely knows the name of in an apocalyptic scenario is a tiny bit off to me.

Idk, I know most dev's and even in actual writing people hold out the best stuff as long as possible to keep patron interest, but if you're confident as a dev that should be doable through much better means.
 

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So I just played through the game rather quickly; I have to admit the general foundation for a story, the characters, the art and even sex scene type of stuff I'm into most of it... What I hate is the game being halfway done (0.5 unless the creator is doing that bs where 1.1 is a thing and isn't DLC, just saying usually aside from dlc/patches 1.0 is usually a complete game) and there only being 1 sex scene (the one in the original post). I could somehow be wrong, but I'm missing Kira's final 3 cg's.
Often version number only means number of releases, plus small patches. So 0.5 does not means game is «half-way done».
 

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I get it, you fuck over an artist and they get mad, they decide it'd be a good idea to steal your story idea and give it to someone else, honestly didn't expect it to happen, but whatcha gonna do eh?
 

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Often version number only means number of releases, plus small patches. So 0.5 does not means game is «half-way done».
True. The ammount of updates depends on support, and we had received a nice boost to it. Which means there are more than just 5 updates left.
 

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I do mean this thread, I had this exact idea story wise and even some art elements are similar and I told it to this artist I was working with, well I had to drop the project and the artist wasn't happy so clearly she gave the ideas i had to someone else, sure it could just be a coincidence, if so then its a damn big one.
 

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I do mean this thread, I had this exact idea story wise and even some art elements are similar and I told it to this artist I was working with, well I had to drop the project and the artist wasn't happy so clearly she gave the ideas i had to someone else, sure it could just be a coincidence, if so then its a damn big one.
Forgive us for being skeptical, but that's quite the claim now isn't it?
 

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Forgive us for being skeptical, but that's quite the claim now isn't it?
yeah id like a cup of proof with a side of if this happened why now burger? im skeptical as well and in todays society i sure as fuck wont take words with nothing to back it. if ideas were stolen and shit like that you better have dates, time, and people who knew that can verify. as well as original content that are stamped on when they were made and how they came to be. ive seen people claim shit and either made things up, didn't have any proof but had exact knowledge for some reason, and or stole and plagiarized content in their own details. I wont have anyless than that if some honest person did have an idea stolen they would think of something to show it was theirs in the first place already. also be very careful because shit gets nasty when legal terms come up... id say forget it if you had done nothing to protect your idea and move on.
 

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I do mean this thread, I had this exact idea story wise and even some art elements are similar and I told it to this artist I was working with, well I had to drop the project and the artist wasn't happy so clearly she gave the ideas i had to someone else, sure it could just be a coincidence, if so then its a damn big one.
The idea isn't anything new, imo. There are... numerous stories and games with a similar setting, and I'm talking about adult stuff here. Two off the top being Kamos' and that other one I forgot the name of (it had something about a watch that increases lust or what not.)

Imo, the game is based off of fallout, and the author has made another incest game before, with similar characters (Eg. Sister is in the military; barmaid, or whatitsname)

Ps. I remember reading a cyoa, Thrust, at chyoa with a similar setup too. Eg. Same family set up, and in some branches the father is infertile, as well as how the son/father heads out to explore/scavenge/whatever.
 
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not the characters, just the story, and now because I saw it a while back and it pissed me off but i thought id just let it go but its been digging at me for a while, I'm sure it is just a coincidence but still
 

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Who are we gonna trust more, a dev with a nearly completed game and a good track record, or some random asshole with 6 posts making an accusation with 0 proof?
 
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Who are we gonna trust more, a dev with a nearly completed game and a good track record, or some random asshole with 6 posts making an accusation with 0 proof?
my case and point... is it me or does nobody know what it means to have legit proof anymore? example:
I make a concept or rough draft. I have it filed away on my computer and is stamped according to the date it was stored... I tell someone my idea ( shocker coming...) they don't really like it. next couple of years or whatever I see my idea floating around and I go " wait isnt this my work!/!?!... i go back to my stored away project and compare it to what I discovered...
my point kiddo is you are either full of shit and have no claim on the concept or the idea is or was floating around and they molded it from scratch to where it is not only a shadow of your idea its entirely fair game to make what you said and they use their own assets to " create" said idea. its only wrong if they agreed to a BINDING contract in which case you say the artist blabbed it out your at fault for giving up info you could have bargained with. if you had ideas at the time written before this happened show evidence and if you were working with the artist then maybe juuuuust maybe this could be a problem but you need hard proof and agreements need to be rectified if side projects were being made during this " congregation of an idea". watch mad men or law an order or something hell even read laws on plagiarism in the work place and youll figure it out. but please don't waste time here. back to you tom.
 

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not the characters, just the story, and now because I saw it a while back and it pissed me off but i thought id just let it go but its been digging at me for a while, I'm sure it is just a coincidence but still
So your artist contacted me and I hired another artist? The problem with this, is that I would most likely hire your artist, because as you said, she already did some work on it, so it would cost me almost nothing. Or at least use some of the art you are mentioning, as I can get it for a low price.
As it was already mentioned, this idea is nothing original, just a family surviving an apocalypse. Also, as a game developer you should know, that having an idea is not enough. Many can come up with the same game idea you have, or story elements. The question is - are you the one who can execute it? Less than 1% of the games have such an original plot, players will try it just for that. Usually it is an execution of it.
With a few little tweaks, you can still create the game that was in your head, and who knows? Maybe you will execute it better. But telling that anonymous artist contacted me to make a game, without asking for a job and just wanting to annoy you, and me choosing this over ten other game ideas I have is just silly.
 

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So your artist contacted me and I hired another artist? The problem with this, is that I would most likely hire your artist, because as you said, she already did some work on it, so it would cost me almost nothing. Or at least use some of the art you are mentioning, as I can get it for a low price.
As it was already mentioned, this idea is nothing original, just a family surviving an apocalypse. Also, as a game developer you should know, that having an idea is not enough. Many can come up with the same game idea you have, or story elements. The question is - are you the one who can execute it? Less than 1% of the games have such an original plot, players will try it just for that. Usually it is an execution of it.
With a few little tweaks, you can still create the game that was in your head, and who knows? Maybe you will execute it better. But telling that anonymous artist contacted me to make a game, without asking for a job and just wanting to annoy you, and me choosing this over ten other game ideas I have is just silly.
I agree with this... for some that will claim ideas I would too but I don't give a shit cause its going to be common at a blink... how we make an idea come to being and making the idea ARE DIFFERENT. you can get water in a plastic cup or a metal cup etc... the idea for a cup in the first place is pretty much the no brainer and who ever came up with that idea bless your 10 fingers you bloody bastard genius :)... also yeah this argument of his is just a variant of a different cup material its not new look up nergal or sirens domain or anybody who is working on survial games they will either include incest or not but the concept is pretty much SURVIVE. all these games are made on a genre that is nowhere close to being identical but the all have a theme so unless material was being stolen from your bloody hard drive no more arguments I rest my case...again... any ideas on when the game is done? like 2020 or something?
 

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I agree with this... for some that will claim ideas I would too but I don't give a shit cause its going to be common at a blink... how we make an idea come to being and making the idea ARE DIFFERENT. you can get water in a plastic cup or a metal cup etc... the idea for a cup in the first place is pretty much the no brainer and who ever came up with that idea bless your 10 fingers you bloody bastard genius :)... also yeah this argument of his is just a variant of a different cup material its not new look up nergal or sirens domain or anybody who is working on survial games they will either include incest or not but the concept is pretty much SURVIVE. all these games are made on a genre that is nowhere close to being identical but the all have a theme so unless material was being stolen from your bloody hard drive no more arguments I rest my case...again... any ideas on when the game is done? like 2020 or something?
My original idea was to make this a short project, but seeing how much love and support it is getting, I will try to make it much longer. There are a lot of routes and situations that can be explored. I might also include other routes for characters, not only romance and MB, but maybe some bimbofication for example.There will be more freedom of what to do and how, with choices that will affect the game world. I think 2020 or 2021 is a safe bet to release what I currently have in mind. Will be faster if the goal of full-time artist will be reached.
 
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