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- May 18, 2017
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- May 2, 2017
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The Rion ganbang scene was really short in comparison with others and looks rushed. You see one guy aproching her, the next render he is already inside her, in the next render you see the next guy walking towards Rion to get his turn, the next render he is already fucking her, and then you see a diferent scene from diferent angles of everyone fucking her, but still to me looks pretty rushed in comparison with other sex scenes between the MC with any of the girls.
I have always liked this game. the story is very interesting and the characters are very good. I have saved for every girl's path. Up to now. I think the gangbang scene was a mistake, and not only because it has left Rion very damaged like Li but because it has made me think about what will happen in the future with her and with the other girls. I know it is avoidable, but even so it has left me with a strange feeling, of doubts about what direction this will take in the future. The next updates I think I will not play them and I will only look at this forum to see what is happening and if this current feeling of discomfort is something temporary
- May 2, 2017
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I don't see the "problem" here, you can choose if you want the gangbang to happen or not, that has not "affect" in the story or the girls if you choose the non-NTR path. And still if you let all the men fuck her, she will react different if your score is high or low, if is high she will enjoy being gangbanged but if is low she will despice you for let it happen.
But still, like you said, Is avoidable, when you avoid, you don't get that path. So you shouldn't be affected for what happens in the NTR path if you play the non-NTR.
The problem here is that, it is a prerequisite if you want to progress through the Lust path, so basically it is unavoidable. And before this update, there was basically no buildup to it ever happening at all. Heck, there wasn't even an NTR path before this update. Sure, Rion is a nympho but to jump from steamy vanilla sex to surprise NTR mind break gangbang in a span of 12-16 in-game hours is just farfetched and dare I say stupid. Dev also previously stated that NTR will only have a minor part in this game and will only happen to other girls that you are not pursuing, thus it is not truly NTR, but it appears he has strayed from that previous statement or maybe outright lied which has misled most of us. That my friend, is the problem. There are pages upon pages of that debate earlier in the thread if you don't want to take my word for it.
- Oct 1, 2019
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So, just finished with 0.8, and back to being caught up with the Dev.
Thank you so much for this game thus far, and now, I will be looking forward for the next one.
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Thank you so much for this game thus far, and now, I will be looking forward for the next one.
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Yes story is very interesting and unique compared to other VNs.
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Quick question. I don't know if I have a bug or something but something weird happened at the oasis.
Have I somehow ended up on the Evil path (i haven't made a single "evil" choice in the game)? I'm using the Multi-Mod btw.
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Have I somehow ended up on the Evil path (i haven't made a single "evil" choice in the game)? I'm using the Multi-Mod btw.
- Feb 20, 2021
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anyone else think the last 2 updates are a mess , in relation to choices ?
maddie route - borked at/after temple ...
rion route - only worth playing if you let the gangbang happen ...
nora - dafuq is going on ...
Zaya/Nefertari - rape her at temple (evil)or you get nothing there (importend story hints hidden behind this action)...
i like the game , the girls are unique each but ....
didnt see this all coming
maddie route - borked at/after temple ...
rion route - only worth playing if you let the gangbang happen ...
nora - dafuq is going on ...
Zaya/Nefertari - rape her at temple (evil)or you get nothing there (importend story hints hidden behind this action)...
i like the game , the girls are unique each but ....
didnt see this all coming
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is there a fix for the 2 choices at the alter with Nora?
I went there with Maddie and can't pick a choice here at all
I went there with Maddie and can't pick a choice here at all
patch v0.8.1 did nothing to change the problem with the alter choices which cannot be chosen
anything new on this or do we have to wait for the next update to correct
anything new on this or do we have to wait for the next update to correct
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try this , or give me a save and mention the the choice you want
I agree, for me this update feels disjointed, seems that some people felt the same.
It doesn't have the same vibe as previous updates, maybe the "story" is kicking in, but not in the direction that most expected.
I don't mind the sudden changes in the overall story (the direction of the story is interesting)... what left me uneasy are some decisions in the relationships with the girls.
So , in one route, having a lust relationship with Rion only leads to GB and future NTR (didn't expect having to choice a NTR scene by following her route, welp...). Not only that, there is no "alternative" scene for those who don't want that kind of scenes with Rion for that particular path, there isn't anything for romance path whatsoever in this update to be clear.
The whole Nora (the thing related to the gem), and Maddie scenes are... weird, didn't felt natural, but maybe that's intended.
I may be in the wrong, but i had the impression that if i choose a girl, i won't have any particular problems with NTR scenes whatsoever.
I don't mind NTR, if its done well... but it kinda feel forced and too sudden in this update. And as someone said... hours ago (in the story), they were having another kind of relationship. Feels like they are not the same people.
Another thing is that now there are several "routes" for Rion... so if Lust have NTR, and evil is the result of her hating you... now we'll have a route with "sharing / voyeur"? and another one with hard NTR (speculation, but by the dev notes is a full route for Rion)?.
Let me to think that the type of content that we had with Rion up until 0.7 its going to be less in future updates because those new routes, no?
Hard to digest that in only one update after all the romance and lust/wild scenes done just the 7 updates before in a game that had ntr content, but wasn't the focus because it was mainly on girls that you didn't follow and you choose to see them out of their routes.
I'm curious about the story... i think that i'll wait a couple of updates to see where the relationships with the girls are going.
It doesn't have the same vibe as previous updates, maybe the "story" is kicking in, but not in the direction that most expected.
I don't mind the sudden changes in the overall story (the direction of the story is interesting)... what left me uneasy are some decisions in the relationships with the girls.
So , in one route, having a lust relationship with Rion only leads to GB and future NTR (didn't expect having to choice a NTR scene by following her route, welp...). Not only that, there is no "alternative" scene for those who don't want that kind of scenes with Rion for that particular path, there isn't anything for romance path whatsoever in this update to be clear.
The whole Nora (the thing related to the gem), and Maddie scenes are... weird, didn't felt natural, but maybe that's intended.
I may be in the wrong, but i had the impression that if i choose a girl, i won't have any particular problems with NTR scenes whatsoever.
I don't mind NTR, if its done well... but it kinda feel forced and too sudden in this update. And as someone said... hours ago (in the story), they were having another kind of relationship. Feels like they are not the same people.
Another thing is that now there are several "routes" for Rion... so if Lust have NTR, and evil is the result of her hating you... now we'll have a route with "sharing / voyeur"? and another one with hard NTR (speculation, but by the dev notes is a full route for Rion)?.
Let me to think that the type of content that we had with Rion up until 0.7 its going to be less in future updates because those new routes, no?
Hard to digest that in only one update after all the romance and lust/wild scenes done just the 7 updates before in a game that had ntr content, but wasn't the focus because it was mainly on girls that you didn't follow and you choose to see them out of their routes.
I'm curious about the story... i think that i'll wait a couple of updates to see where the relationships with the girls are going.
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Played through latest update and I am on Rion lust route. I am still not happy that Rion and Julian broke up so casually even tho I did not romance her and happily want her to sleep around, but later scene with the mercenaries was cool at least. But I have to agree with some posters, last few updates are feeling very scuffed compared to wonderful work put into this project earlier. I'm sure everyone would understand if updates came out with bigger intervals to upkeep great quality this game saw in many updates before, just keep community in the loop how the update progress is going rather than dish out these rushed updates and get heavy criticism.
P.S. Ability to kiss Rion after gangbang scene would be perfect for people who like this route, just a suggestion
P.S. Ability to kiss Rion after gangbang scene would be perfect for people who like this route, just a suggestion
Mmm, I think the misunderstanding comes from the fact that I called that route lust/corrupted in the guidelines
But in fact, it's the corrupted route more than anything and it's very close to evil route (I just let the possibility to reach it from high lust (and not only from evil points), but you are NOT forced to take that route either if you have high lust, you can choose the other option, and if you don't like NTR, protecting Rion is the obvious direction to take).
And no, choosing the GB is not a prerequisite on the lust options of Rion. It is the prerequisite to corrupt her. Different.
If that was confusing, then I'll correct the "names" of the routes in the guidelines
First route is romance/lust
Second route is corruption/depravation
Last route is straight evil/domination
Also, there is one thing I don't understand. You guys have the choice to do it or not, and yet still complain because you had the choice. It's like going to the bar and having the choice between Coke and Beer. And complain because Beer is proposed.
Nothing is forced here. Choosing to protect Rion will preserve your intimate relationship with her, and your lust points as well, so where is the problem?
That said, the fact this "corruption" route seems rushed, especially if you jump from the torrid night from day3 to that corruption scene, is a criticism I accept and understand. Maybe I should have not allowed the cross path between lust and corruption. And yeah, maybe that jump was a bit brutal and would need some polishing to make the corruption more progressive. That is something I will think about later if I have time. But again, it's an OPTION and a side route, not a main one. If you feel it's out of place,why not taking the other option? I would understand your disappointment if there was no other way. But there was => don't let Rion be touched by anyone else. Ok, it's true there are no sex scenes for that path in this specific update...they are captured, not really the best place to have intimate sex imo, and it was warned beforehand that this update was action/story oriented. How come no one complained about Maddie having no sex scene in this update? lol. Anyway, you shouldn't be concerned about that, Rion won't miss any occasion to have some lewd moments with the MC.
You don't imagine how much work it is to manage so many routes, and the complexity to make all the crossing routes still have some sense whatever the options you chose before, especially as it's happening on the same timeline (I understand now, why almost no other developer do that kind of gameplay). So, yeah, sometimes some roamings will feel a bit brutal because what you did before was 1 of the 5 things you could have done before, and that one doesn't fit very well the next event. Yeah, I agree it can happen.
I'm doing what I can in my free time, usually during the night, because I can't live and work full time from it. I would like to have more time to polish every route, but the truth is that I should have closed and limited the number of routes, much more than I did.
Anyway, I made a poll on Patreon on that subject and the results are surprising so far. Or maybe it's the other way...
But in fact, it's the corrupted route more than anything and it's very close to evil route (I just let the possibility to reach it from high lust (and not only from evil points), but you are NOT forced to take that route either if you have high lust, you can choose the other option, and if you don't like NTR, protecting Rion is the obvious direction to take).
And no, choosing the GB is not a prerequisite on the lust options of Rion. It is the prerequisite to corrupt her. Different.
If that was confusing, then I'll correct the "names" of the routes in the guidelines
First route is romance/lust
Second route is corruption/depravation
Last route is straight evil/domination
Also, there is one thing I don't understand. You guys have the choice to do it or not, and yet still complain because you had the choice. It's like going to the bar and having the choice between Coke and Beer. And complain because Beer is proposed.
Nothing is forced here. Choosing to protect Rion will preserve your intimate relationship with her, and your lust points as well, so where is the problem?
That said, the fact this "corruption" route seems rushed, especially if you jump from the torrid night from day3 to that corruption scene, is a criticism I accept and understand. Maybe I should have not allowed the cross path between lust and corruption. And yeah, maybe that jump was a bit brutal and would need some polishing to make the corruption more progressive. That is something I will think about later if I have time. But again, it's an OPTION and a side route, not a main one. If you feel it's out of place,why not taking the other option? I would understand your disappointment if there was no other way. But there was => don't let Rion be touched by anyone else. Ok, it's true there are no sex scenes for that path in this specific update...they are captured, not really the best place to have intimate sex imo, and it was warned beforehand that this update was action/story oriented
. How come no one complained about Maddie having no sex scene in this update? lol. Anyway, you shouldn't be concerned about that, Rion won't miss any occasion to have some lewd moments with the MC.You don't imagine how much work it is to manage so many routes, and the complexity to make all the crossing routes still have some sense whatever the options you chose before, especially as it's happening on the same timeline (I understand now, why almost no other developer do that kind of gameplay). So, yeah, sometimes some roamings will feel a bit brutal because what you did before was 1 of the 5 things you could have done before, and that one doesn't fit very well the next event. Yeah, I agree it can happen.
I'm doing what I can in my free time, usually during the night, because I can't live and work full time from it. I would like to have more time to polish every route, but the truth is that I should have closed and limited the number of routes, much more than I did.
Anyway, I made a poll on Patreon on that subject and the results are surprising so far. Or maybe it's the other way...
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