Dessolos

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You guys are here to enjoy the game at F95? Or have you come to find trouble with English grammar?
English is not my first language and I failed English exams when I was at school.
But I can understand every sentence of the developer text and feel the whole story he wants to express.
(If you want show the nobility of USA and Europe, you better go to Twitter.In fact, English-speaking countries have been a mess in recent years.)
I never mentioned anything about the writing I have trouble telling the difference from bad or good writing unless it's obvious mistakes and I only understand English. Yeah I do understand everything being said just fine as well. But the story is garbage goes from okay to worst and makes no sense at some points for no reason. Like why would the mother say it was a good punishment for raping the sister and the sister thank him afterwards if you pick that option. That's a big wtf moments and makes zero sense it's random sorry that is pure garbage.
 

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I never mentioned anything about the writing I have trouble telling the difference from bad or good writing unless it's obvious mistakes and I only understand English. Yeah I do understand everything being said just fine as well. But the story is garbage goes from okay to worst and makes no sense at some points for no reason. Like why would the mother say it was a good punishment for raping the sister and the sister thank him afterwards if you pick that option. That's a big wtf moments and makes zero sense it's random sorry that is pure garbage.
If you've played his other games,you will know he's good at dark chaotic stories.
The developer is showing the increasingly serious mental state of a schizophrenic MC.
Gentle, normal writing is blasphemy against this story.
 

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If you've played his other games,you will know he's good at dark chaotic stories.
The developer is showing the increasingly serious mental state of a schizophrenic MC.
Gentle, normal writing is blasphemy against this story.
ah I never have and didn't play really past that point I mentioned . I just want to wait for alot of updates to descend into the madness that is this game. I figured the mother is bioplar or something the sister unsure about
 

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You guys are here to enjoy the game at F95? Or have you come to find trouble with English grammar?
English is not my first language and I failed English exams when I was at school.
But I can understand every sentence of the developer text and feel the whole story he wants to express.
If you want show the superiority of USA and UK, you better go to Twitter.
(In fact, English-speaking countries have been clowns for the past few years. When they spend tens of billions fighting someone else's war , the number of homeless people in the USA is staggering. :FacePalm: )
Oh fuck, yeah imagine wanting intelligble dialogues in a visual NOVEL... yeah, I'm such a goofball, ain't I? :rolleyes:

Also, english is not my first language either and I'm not american or a brit either... I guess I'm just not a donkey :WeSmart:
 

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Oh fuck, yeah imagine wanting intelligble dialogues in a visual NOVEL... yeah, I'm such a goofball, ain't I? :rolleyes:

Also, english is not my first language either and I'm not american or a brit either... I guess I'm just not a donkey :WeSmart:
Such a simple story, and you are still complaining because you can't understand it.
not a donkey. What is :WeSmart:?
read some books. NOVEL will do.
 

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Such a simple story, and you are still complaining because you can't understand it.
not a donkey. What is :WeSmart:?
read some books. NOVEL will do.
Well, unsurprisingly, you didn't get the point... I DID understand the story... I just happen to think it's very poorly written and all over the place. But it's nice that you like it, tho (y)
 

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Well, unsurprisingly, you didn't get the point... I DID understand the story... I just happen to think it's very poorly written and all over the place. But it's nice that you like it, tho (y)
Just because you don't accept it doesn't mean there's something wrong with it.
The chaos in your eyes is just the developer's artistic expression.
If read more novels movies and even DC comics , you will not say those impetuous complaints.

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I like how these guys dont give any leeway to devs, everything should be made according to their vision/liking, otherwise its a "trash game" with a plot that makes no sense.
 
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Dessolos

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I like how these guys dont give any leeway to devs, everything should be made according to their vision/liking, otherwise its a "trash game" with a plot that makes no sense.
to be fair I never thought it was that great to begin with. But the moment the mother's reaction to her daughter being raped if you go down that path it became trash to me personally and only still playing cause im to damn curious how crazy it's gonna get. Sure the dev might be making it fucked up on purpose to make more a story of mental illness but my issues is it goes to fast to quick out of left field. If the MC was showing signs of it at the start then okay wouldn't of been so bad in my eyes.
 

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to be fair I never thought it was that great to begin with. But the moment the mother's reaction to her daughter being raped if you go down that path it became trash to me personally and only still playing cause im to damn curious how crazy it's gonna get. Sure the dev might be making it fucked up on purpose to make more a story of mental illness but my issues is it goes to fast to quick out of left field. If the MC was showing signs of it at the start then okay wouldn't of been so bad in my eyes.
I mean game starts with mc seeing psychologist (I dont remember this scene in full tbh so might be a bit wrong), so I guess its not that far-fetched?
 

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I like how these guys dont give any leeway to devs, everything should be made according to their vision/liking, otherwise its a "trash game" with a plot that makes no sense.
Well, if it was just a fan project for fun I wouldn't say anything, but these devs ARE selling their shit games, so yes, one expects a minimum standard of quality.

Again, you can like it all you want, but that won't change the fact that the translations are ass and that the story is not very well executed at all (and not even that original).
 
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Well, if it was just a fan project for fun I wouldn't say anything, but these devs ARE selling their shit games, so yes, one expects a minimum standard of quality.

Again, you can like it all you want, but that won't change the fact that the translations are ass and that the story is not very well executed at all (and not even that original).
I don't know if the concept of selling applies in this game, unless it's being sold on Steam. Like most visual novels, it's more about the patronage concept, where the creator presents their work for appreciation and people help them to continue their work.
 

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I don't know if the concept of selling applies in this game, unless it's being sold on Steam. Like most visual novels, it's more about the patronage concept, where the creator presents their work for appreciation and people help them to continue their work.
I mean, sure we could discuss the more finer details of patronage... as far as I'm concerned, as a rule of thumb, if people ask for money, it's a product that's being sold and therefore should be viewed as such, but sure, there's an argument to be made for what you're saying.

In this game's case though, the point is moot because it IS being sold on steam, so yeah, it gets judged like any other game on there.
 
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I had no idea this dumpster fire actually had fans that's the funniest thing ever I wont call it the worst game but its pretty up there on my list this game is like a psych ward simulator where everyone is a lunatic including the MC, I will admit its a nice comedy game you can play just for shits and giggles.
 

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What happen to this game? I have so much respect for Miriam she was supposed to be sophisticated, mature and respected but suddenly she became crazy I know she is lonely and a bit bitch but damn she just became completely crazy. What happen? is this supposed to happen meant by the dev to continue the story. It suddenly from a great game to became worst.
 

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I like how these guys dont give any leeway to devs, everything should be made according to their vision/liking, otherwise its a "trash game" with a plot that makes no sense.
I prefer if devs vision will what become of the game but this feels like not his vision it just suddenly the story turn up very different very fast. It is actually a good twist Miriam was his mother but I dont get the part where Miriam suddenly crazy in love with MC day after she is drunk. They have good work relation but not really shown intimate but suddenly just a day Miriam became completely crazy and also crazy in love with his son with no reason. It doesnt make sense.
 

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I prefer if devs vision will what become of the game but this feels like not his vision it just suddenly the story turn up very different very fast. It is actually a good twist Miriam was his mother but I dont get the part where Miriam suddenly crazy in love with MC day after she is drunk. They have good work relation but not really shown intimate but suddenly just a day Miriam became completely crazy and also crazy in love with his son with no reason. It doesnt make sense.
I mean its a porn game what did you expect? also same issue can be applied to everyone, girls are jumping on that dick like its pogo stick. I will say instead of questioning devs decisions just follow a story, make your choices and see where it leads you, or just abandon the game altogether if sudden lack of realism ruins the game for you, thats not rocket science.
 

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I mean its a porn game what did you expect? also same issue can be applied to everyone, girls are jumping on that dick like its pogo stick. I will say instead of questioning devs decisions just follow a story, make your choices and see where it leads you, or just abandon the game altogether if sudden lack of realism ruins the game for you, thats not rocket science.
So that means an adult VN cant be sophisticated and it must follow porn logic. Making sense is different from realism doesnt mean you can do anything in fiction you will do anything even it doesnt make sense. Are your brain rotting? and now it only knows porn logic.
 
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So that means an adult VN cant be sophisticated and it must follow porn logic. Making sense is different from realism doesnt mean you can do anything in fiction you will do anything even it doesnt make sense. Are your brain rotting? and now it only knows porn logic.
dude first off I can be mean too and I dont think we both want to go down that way, ok? second of all, there are sophisticated games, there are games with porn logic, and what you dont see apparently is there are infinite number of variations in between. the game can be sophisticated while also having bit of porn logic, because - surprise surprise - porn is a good part of such games, and to put it into the game in satisfying quantities will require to take some shortcuts, that will lead to not 100% authentic behaviour. its really not that hard to understand if you arent on some fucking crusade against particular porn dev lmao
 

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dude first off I can be mean too and I dont think we both want to go down that way, ok? second of all, there are sophisticated games, there are games with porn logic, and what you dont see apparently is there are infinite number of variations in between. the game can be sophisticated while also having bit of porn logic, because - surprise surprise - porn is a good part of such games, and to put it into the game in satisfying quantities will require to take some shortcuts, that will lead to not 100% authentic behaviour. its really not that hard to understand if you arent on some fucking crusade against particular porn dev lmao
Oh sorry about that but got a bit little heated there. I just hate a good story suddenly get destroyed. I know it is a porn game but if I want just porn I just go directly to a porn site. Fine cant do anything about it probably I just move on.
 
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