i loved the old version but i'll give the reboot a try, I hope it's worth to start from the beginning again. It's verry brave to choose a "making new" at this point, RESPECT!
Admittedly I haven’t played the reboot yet but I can appreciate wanting to go back and spruce up the game to meet current standards. Unfortunate that we will have to wait a while for the reboot to catch up in content but if the dev feels they can make the whole thing feel smoother then I can’t complain too much.
However, I am already concerned with this “weekly tax” system if I am understanding it correctly. Sounds like I am deducted a certain amount of money each week and if I don’t have enough money I get a game over?
I would love to hear other people’s perspectives, but one of my favourite things about sandbox games is that I can go at my own pace and not worry about screwing up or missing content because I wanted to focus on some other part of the game and talk with the girls I like the most. These tax systems don’t feel great in sandbox games because it forces the player into a certain direction and stresses them out over game overs, punishing them for exploring in ways that a sandbox should encourage. Also, taxes tend to become irrelevant once the player gets a high income, just wasting time and not adding anything meaningful to gameplay (see Haramase Simulator). To be frank I’ve always felt that the money grind got a little too high in later parts of Scarlet Law, so I’m hoping taxes don’t exacerbate that.
Just food for thought, JYP. Love the characters and story but worried about pacing. Tax systems are good for business management games but go against what sandbox games stand for.
However, I am already concerned with this “weekly tax” system if I am understanding it correctly. Sounds like I am deducted a certain amount of money each week and if I don’t have enough money I get a game over?
I would love to hear other people’s perspectives, but one of my favourite things about sandbox games is that I can go at my own pace and not worry about screwing up or missing content because I wanted to focus on some other part of the game and talk with the girls I like the most. These tax systems don’t feel great in sandbox games because it forces the player into a certain direction and stresses them out over game overs, punishing them for exploring in ways that a sandbox should encourage. Also, taxes tend to become irrelevant once the player gets a high income, just wasting time and not adding anything meaningful to gameplay (see Haramase Simulator). To be frank I’ve always felt that the money grind got a little too high in later parts of Scarlet Law, so I’m hoping taxes don’t exacerbate that.
Just food for thought, JYP. Love the characters and story but worried about pacing. Tax systems are good for business management games but go against what sandbox games stand for.
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I don't know how this tax thing goes in the game. I have reached a point where the game warned that I should have money at the end of each week to pay taxes and that these would increase as you get more "slaves". I don't think I have even saved the game, I have closed it without wanting to know more. If taxes ever disappear I will come back, if not then I enjoyed the previous versions.
Man i really choose the wrong career, i could have just became a h-game developer, the things that this people get away with, i mean 1600 dollars a month he can come out and say: "Hey, im going to start from scratch copy pasting the script (Literally word for word exactly the same) because i want to milk you all- i mean because i didnt like somethings about the game, i worked so haaaard im dissapointed about your comments" man i thought i was a dipshit but this? lmao, and his patreon would just keep growing, at much it would fall one or two hundred dollar and he gets to milk it 6 months more or even longer, with things like this or like waifu academy i have come to the conclusion that the people of patreon have room temperature IQ in general
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- Jun 26, 2018
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Excluding taxes, the changes as far as I have seen seemed fine. In fact, in principle it seems to me that it could improve a lot. But for me any improvement is diluted by the addition of taxes, that is enough to kill my interest in the game.
you aint kidding there wasnt much to this reboot. just you buying out your moms and sis contract am i correct or is there more. because it tells me thats it for this update. Thanks
- Aug 25, 2018
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I played through it. The flowers and flower-seller are new, seemed like the same general story otherwise and a good bit of catching up to get to the same point left. Personally I'm fine with a reboot, hopefully the author can progress quickly re-using most of the same story and be in a better place.
On the complaints about taxation - taxes aren't my favorite balancing mechanic either. Grinding to progress is one thing, grinding for a treadmill mechanic (like taxes) I don't find particularly interesting. It sounds like taxes have been set low though, so this may be fine. One concern I will point out with them is that I can easily see an accidental game over when the player is just barely able to make a big purchase on the wrong day.
Best of luck on the reboot!
On the complaints about taxation - taxes aren't my favorite balancing mechanic either. Grinding to progress is one thing, grinding for a treadmill mechanic (like taxes) I don't find particularly interesting. It sounds like taxes have been set low though, so this may be fine. One concern I will point out with them is that I can easily see an accidental game over when the player is just barely able to make a big purchase on the wrong day.
Best of luck on the reboot!
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The reboot does look better, but it is a bit of a bummer that we are more or less back to square one. It's probably going to take more than half a year to catch up to the original content (if we are lucky).
- Apr 23, 2017
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people people if your not donating to this game just relax and enjoy the game.
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and thats why iam out now, the game was already come to a point, where you have spent several hours, to start over again, not my cup of tea, i could understand if the game has not progress further and was easily to catch up on
The solution here is probably to do a mix of catch up content while also sprinkling in things to provide new content for players that have indeed played the old version already and I think the developer showed hints of that in the first new release and I think it's going to be important for retention reasons to strike a good balance between catching up to where the story was and having new things to see to make patreons feel like they aren't paying for the same script twice.
As far as the tax system goes I would almost go the other direction and have a money cap to discourage grinding instead of a money tax which just forces a grind. If you really want to go with the tax system, presentation is everything. Structure it as a garnishment of wages from the getgo and just scale the work payments down accordingly instead of making an entire song and dance game over about it every weekend.
As far as the tax system goes I would almost go the other direction and have a money cap to discourage grinding instead of a money tax which just forces a grind. If you really want to go with the tax system, presentation is everything. Structure it as a garnishment of wages from the getgo and just scale the work payments down accordingly instead of making an entire song and dance game over about it every weekend.
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This is just a tip for returning players. I don't know if anyone posted about it yet but if you have a save in your room from the old version of the game load that up, it will start you after the intro with all your money and affection points.
- Apr 23, 2019
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STUNNING AND BRAVE.
YASS, DEV, SLAYYYYYY.
Anyway, reading the notes... all the tags are fucking worng aren't they? Is there vaginal and oral sex in this new version already?
- Jul 23, 2017
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The biggest issue I honestly had with the game was a more simplistic one:
Was the story actually to be taken seriously, or is this more of a lighthearted apparoch with something more of a "generic" story backdrop, in the sense of "yeah, there is a story, but it's not important" - because from the writing that the version prior to the reboot had, I was honestly incapable of making this out for myself, when the game constantly sinewaved back and forth between "seriousness with deeply intertwined character stories" and "MAD MAD MAD MAD MAD".
Was the story actually to be taken seriously, or is this more of a lighthearted apparoch with something more of a "generic" story backdrop, in the sense of "yeah, there is a story, but it's not important" - because from the writing that the version prior to the reboot had, I was honestly incapable of making this out for myself, when the game constantly sinewaved back and forth between "seriousness with deeply intertwined character stories" and "MAD MAD MAD MAD MAD".
- Jun 26, 2018
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Well, to "avoid" the taxes it occurs to me to use an editor to make the MC incredibly rich so I never have to worry about it again. But that has the "problem" that it also eliminates having to get the money to buy the LIs (something that doesn't bother me, I'm here for the story and the LIs, not to spend the game days looking for money)
Just do what I do. If the dev wants to make their game a grindy pos, just alter the save file and that way you complete 1hr-2hrs of wasteful grinding in 10 seconds
First mistake was actually grinding out the money. Fuck that noise. I hate games that add overly grindy mechanics to pad out the game length. Just alter the save file, takes a few seconds and boom you're now not rich but wealthy and set for the rest of the game on money. Never really understood why some devs feel the need to make their games into a grind'fest. Makes you really appreciate the devs of games which actively try to avoid doing this as they know your time is valuable and not something to be wasted.
- Apr 23, 2017
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I don't grind money or affection I use
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