TrueZeus

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Dec 1, 2017
36
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I'm disappointed with this update (0.7), but the game is well done and I hope the next one is better.
 

Siddington

Member
Sep 11, 2017
346
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There is no NTR in game for MC. At least for now. You can tag this game as netori.
Spying Maria and Mimi, raping them during sleep don't make them belong to MC.
If Martin tries to fuck Alice and MC helpless about it, then I may call it NTR.
Are Maria and Mimi romantic interests of the main character? Have we spent multiple updates gaining their affection in the hope of one day entering a sexual relationship with them? Does some other guy come out of nowhere and start sleeping with both of them? I'd say the answer to all those questions is Yes and hence clear as day NTR. If you don't consider it to be then good for you. It doesn't make it any less true though unless you think all there is to it is the bastardised urban dictionary definition.
 

Ginji

Lightning Emperor
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May 14, 2017
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so somebody else eats your cookie while you watch,then you have to watch him eat the whole pack:mad:.dont mind once but watching it over and over-no thanks-now wheres that delete button:'(
 

bobn

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And here all what I've found. Beware of manipulating Beverly, Margaret and Hayley.

Code:
Time
Line 188: 2="6.000000" (6 o'clock)

Money:
Line 115: 5="5000.000000"

Intelligence:
Line 112: 1="100.000000"

Sport:
Line 111: 2="100.000000"

Computer:
Line 106: 7="100.000000"

Stealth:
Line 107: 6="100.000000"

Persuade:
Line 109: 4="100.000000"

Massage:
Line 108: 5="100.000000"

Reputation Class D:
Line 18: 1="100.000000"

Reputation Class C:
Line 17: 2="100.000000"

Reputation Class B:
Line 16: 3="100.000000"

Reputation Alice Group:
Line 12: 7="100.000000"

Reputation Twins':
Line 11: 8="100.000000"

Reputation Cheerleaders:
Line 15: 4="100.000000"

Reputation Popular:
Line 13: 6="100.000000"

Reputation Nerds:
Line 14: 5="100.000000"

Reputation Outsiders:
Line 10: 9="100.000000"

Reputation Teachers:
Line 9: 10="100.000000"

Alice ...

Relationship:
Line 104: 1="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 77: 1="150.000000"

Sexual Options (10 is probably maximum):
Line 42: 16="10.000000"


Mimi ...
--------

Relationship:
Line 103: 2="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 76: 2="150.000000"

Sexual Options:
TODO


Maria ...
---------

Relationship:
Line 102: 3="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 75: 2="150.000000"

Sexual Options:
TODO


Ako ...
---------

Relationship
Line 101: 4="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 74: 2="150.000000"


Emily ...
---------

Relationship
Line 100: 5="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 73: 5="150.000000"


Chanise ...
-----------

Relationship
Line 99: 6="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 72: 6="150.000000"


Vicky ...
---------

Relationship
Line 98: 7="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 71: 7="150.000000"


Iris ...
--------

Relationship
Line 94: 11="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 69: 9="150.000000"


Mayo ...
--------

Relationship
Line 93: 12="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 68: 10="150.000000"


Christy ...
-----------

Relationship
Line 92: 13="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 67: 11="150.000000"


Charlotte ...
-------------

Relationship
Line 90: 15="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 65: 13="150.000000"


Ava ...
-------

Relationship
Line 86: 19="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 64: 14="150.000000"


Mia ...
-------

Relationship
Line 85: 20="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 63: 15="150.000000"


Lily ...
--------

Relationship
Line 84: 21="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 62: 16="150.000000"


Karly ...
---------

Relationship
Line 91: 14="150.000000"

Lust:
Line 66: 12="150.000000"


Beverly ...
-----------

Relationship
Line 81: 24="150.000000"

Lust: !! WARNING !! DON'T RAISE ABOVE 24 --> Games crashes
Line 59: 19="15.000000"


Margaret ...
------------

Relationship
Line 81: 23="150.000000"

Lust: !! WARNING !! DON'T RAISE ABOVE 24 --> Games crashes
Line 60: 18="15.000000"


Hayley ...
----------

Relationship
Line 83: 22="150.000000"

Lust: !! WARNING !! DON'T RAISE ABOVE 24 --> Games crashes
Line 61: 17="15.000000"


Bill ...
--------

Relationship
Line 96: 9="150.000000"


Seth ...
--------

Relationship
Line 95: 10="150.000000"


Lee ...
-------

Relationship
Line 89: 16="150.000000"


Mathew ...
----------

Relationship
Line 88: 17="150.000000"


Erwan ...
---------

Relationship
Line 87: 18="150.000000"


Brian ...
---------

Relationship
Line 79: 26="150.000000"


Dan ...
-------

Relationship
Line 80: 25="150.000000"
I'm relatively new at doing this. When I open my last save, this is what I get.......

[12]
4="0.000000"
3="0.000000"
2="0.000000"
1="0.000000"
[11]
8="0.000000"
7="0.000000"
6="0.000000"
5="0.000000"
4="0.000000"
3="0.000000"
2="0.000000"
1="0.000000"
[10]
6="0.000000"
5="0.000000"
4="0.000000"
3="0.000000"
2="1.000000"
1="0.000000"
[9]
10="0.000000"
9="21.000000"
8="0.000000"
7="21.000000"
6="0.000000"
5="0.000000"
4="0.000000"
3="0.000000"
2="15.000000"
1="40.000000"
[8]
3="0.000000"
2="0.000000"
1="0.000000"
[7]
10="0.000000"
9="0.000000"
8="0.000000"
7="0.000000"
6="0.000000"
5="1.000000"
4="1.000000"
3="0.000000"
2="0.000000"
1="1.000000"
[6]
5="1.000000"
4="1.000000"
3="1.000000"
2="1.000000"
1="0.000000"

This is using Notepad. Am I using the wrong thing to open it?
 

redknight00

I want to break free
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@bobn this is it, edit the lines they are pointing to.

For example, to edit money it's line 115, open the notepad== and change the number value to whatever you want it to be.
 

bobn

Member
Oct 31, 2017
319
79
@bobn this is it, edit the lines they are pointing to.

For example, to edit money it's line 115, open the notepad== and change the number value to whatever you want it to be.
This is probably a very stupid question, but where do you see a line 115 in what I pasted?
 

redknight00

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New Bitmap Image.png

Here, but now that i look at, I don't think it's 115 for money anymore.
 

Kara Zor-El

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Oct 3, 2017
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Are Maria and Mimi romantic interests of the main character? Have we spent multiple updates gaining their affection in the hope of one day entering a sexual relationship with them? Does some other guy come out of nowhere and start sleeping with both of them? I'd say the answer to all those questions is Yes and hence clear as day NTR. If you don't consider it to be then good for you. It doesn't make it any less true though unless you think all there is to it is the bastardised urban dictionary definition.
You are missing definition of NTR. NTR stories are more dramatic.
There is 3 types NTR
NTR type A: The heroine is willingly cheating on the protagonist with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.

NTR type B: Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.

NTR type C: The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish. (Forced cuckold)

I don't see any of these in this game yet.
I don't feel, they are cheating on MC. Do you?
Right now for your romantic interest for Maria and Mimi, you have sleeping pills. Yeah very romantic solution.
This game won't be harem style game. May turn NTR or harem type game but not right now. We have to deal with dev's story.
 
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Scrichta

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I know this may sound very stupid, since it seems I'm the only one in this thread (I read pretty much all the thread) to have this question, but if I follow the line numbers provided, I get the wrong line?

For example, you say money is line 115, in my save files (I checked 3 of them), it's line 138.

I could tell because it was the only line that had that number which was equal to how much money I had in saved game.

I did some googling but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, even downloaded notepad++ though I get the same issue.

Basically : open save file with notepad, ctrl + g to go to line 115 but I end up with :

"line 115 13=0.0"

while money is (I confirm by saving file; opening game, loading save and checking money) is :

Line 138 5 = XXX



edit --> Just realised maybe the version of the game, or rather the saved game is different? So last version and latest version don't have the same nunmber of lines in the save game?
 

redknight00

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[...]I don't feel, they are cheating on MC. Do you?
As you say it depends on how the player feels about the game, the MC doesn't have much in the way of motivations and objectives, so they player can fill those details. In this case if the player comes back every update in hopes of progressing their relationship with aunt and Mimi it feels bad to have then taken and NTR is a good enough word for it.
 
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redknight00

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edit --> Just realised maybe the version of the game, or rather the saved game is different? So last version and latest version don't have the same nunmber of lines in the save game?
Exactly, they changed it. I think changing the sections [3],[5] to 100, [2] to 30 and the money you already found should be enough to unlock every content as soon as the story allows it.
 
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User_215882

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I'm sure some people saw the change log and where excited about new aunt stuff. I mean I was, but then you have Martin who gets it instead. I mean I don't consider it NYE just yet, but like a few of you I was a bit disappointed. I mean I skip any scene that has pills in it so there's been little to nothing for the aunt.
 

Scrichta

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Nov 26, 2017
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Exactly, they changed it. I think changing the sections [3],[5] to 100, [2] to 30 and the money you already found should be enough to unlock every content as soon as the story allows it.

thank you very much, since I'm very noob with stuff like this, I thought that could be it but but wasn't sure, now I know, ty :)
 

Siddington

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Sep 11, 2017
346
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You are missing definition of NTR. NTR stories are more dramatic.
There is 3 types NTR
NTR type A: The heroine is willingly cheating on the protagonist with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.

NTR type B: Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.

NTR type C: The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish. (Forced cuckold)

I don't see any of these in this game yet.
I don't feel, they are cheating on MC. Do you?
Right now for your romantic interest for Maria and Mimi, you have sleeping pills. Yeah very romantic solution.
This game won't be harem style game. May turn NTR or harem type game but not right now. We have to deal with dev's story.

From VNDB,

"For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.) that jealousy is a factor.

2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail."

There is nothing being said here that hasn't been said a million times on this forum so I will say no more so as not to incur the wrath of the all powerful moderators. You read it one way and I read another. We clearly don't agree and that's fine.
 

Kara Zor-El

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From VNDB,

"For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.) that jealousy is a factor.

2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail."

There is nothing being said here that hasn't been said a million times on this forum so I will say no more so as not to incur the wrath of the all powerful moderators. You read it one way and I read another. We clearly don't agree and that's fine.
When there is jealousy cause someone other than the protagonist in a game, we simply call it NTR.
In NTR games jealousy reasons are worse then this game one.

And I agree, we don't have to think same way.

By the way those NTR types also taken from VNDB.
 

markus T

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You are missing definition of NTR. NTR stories are more dramatic.
There is 3 types NTR
NTR type A: The heroine is willingly cheating on the protagonist with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.

NTR type B: Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.

NTR type C: The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish. (Forced cuckold)

I don't see any of these in this game yet.
I don't feel, they are cheating on MC. Do you?
Right now for your romantic interest for Maria and Mimi, you have sleeping pills. Yeah very romantic solution.
This game won't be harem style game. May turn NTR or harem type game but not right now. We have to deal with dev's story.
in this type of community the definition of ntr changes....it may not be true ntr but it is still considered by some...might as well call it ntr type D. Adding martin was a bold move by walkius considering the shitstorm that was created with big brothers Eric. My beef with it was I've been waiting for maria/mimi content for awhile and what we got was a new character added that right away fucks 2 of the girls and while it wasn't directly hinted (was never said to be happening by walkius though)....alice has requested a massage which will make the coming shitstorm bigger if it ends with the same results.
I think he is trying to please both pro-ntr and anti-ntr crowds at the same time which is impossible with out adding choices to allow martin in or completely stop him. I look forward to see how he handles this in the future.
 
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