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and probably cannot manipulate the agents 100+ miles away at another base.
The main thing Ava knows for certain about the agency is they specialize in dealing with super-humans, so she is going to avoid a direct confrontation with them in any capacity.
Did you forget that she released another superhuman while escaping? If she deleted her trace well enough, they would pin it on him, not her.
So from Ava's perspective, the best course of action would actually be to help the MC subdue Camilla into being his double agent than to take this unusually aggressive course of action that had a million unknowns.
Remember she was trying to make her move her, to get complete control over MC. She needed something big as this and thought she was ready to pull it off.
As you just said, we don't know much about Camilla. So where are you getting your assumptions from that Camilla isn't a rookie?
No, no. That is not how it works. Where are YOU getting the assumptions that she is. There is no indication and you would likely have been part of the crowd complaining how stupid she was and MC had convenient plot armor saving him from the agency by having a rookie agent trailing him. You are defending the position, because it was your own idea, but it goes strictly against all your other complaints. You can't have it both ways.
she knew the MC was the son of a powerful mentalist due to the agency profile, but still fell into a trap anyways.
She took the right precautions given what she knew. You have effectively argued against yourself here, because of her knowledge, she wouldn't just have been a rookie, but incredible stupid to interview the MC on her own.
And undressing the MC and tying him to a chair could hardly be considered extensive countermeasures.
You neatly left out that the MC was given a injection to inhibit his powers, but they couldn't foresee the existence of Ava and know that her powers would still be intact.
This didn't set or raise any stakes, it only confirmed what we all already suspected of Ava.
So, it set and raised the stakes from thinking something is bad about Ava to knowing she is bad. While I indeed would argue it was heavily hinted at, it took a lot of people with surprise, so you can't really argue that it didn't changed the stakes.
 
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To the both of you, I gave my opinion for the dev to assess if by some chance they're reading this forum, not for you. You want to disagree with my assessment and cite minor details as to why, good for you. But at the end of the day, I still believe I'm right, you believe I'm wrong, nobody is going to change anybody's mind, and that's how it is going to be. I'm not going to continue arguing with strangers about the quality of a story in a porn game. Good day to both of you.
 

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To the both of you, I gave my opinion for the dev to assess if by some chance they're reading this forum, not for you. You want to disagree with my assessment and cite minor details as to why, good for you. But at the end of the day, I still believe I'm right, you believe I'm wrong, nobody is going to change anybody's mind, and that's how it is going to be. I'm not going to continue arguing with strangers about the quality of a story in a porn game. Good day to both of you.
I always love "this is my opinion and you cannot say anything at all about them". when a lot of "opinion" are in reality supposition denied by actual facts. and facts are you are unable to defend your position because it's not rooted in reality, but in what you thing of reality is.

and yes, they are minor details, but al least they are the things the game show us, not what we think the game show us (but in reality not).
 
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I always love "this is my opinion and you cannot say anything at all about them". when a lot of "opinion" are in reality supposition denied by actual facts. and facts are you are unable to defend your position because it's not rooted in reality, but in what you thing of reality is.

and yes, they are minor details, but al least they are the things the game show us, not what we think the game show us (but in reality not).
chatGPT?
 
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To the both of you, I gave my opinion for the dev to assess if by some chance they're reading this forum, not for you. You want to disagree with my assessment and cite minor details as to why, good for you. But at the end of the day, I still believe I'm right, you believe I'm wrong, nobody is going to change anybody's mind, and that's how it is going to be. I'm not going to continue arguing with strangers about the quality of a story in a porn game. Good day to both of you.
No matter who the intended audience is, one should expect others to chime in then written in public. But this is more than just opinion being shared. Some of the things you stated were factually wrong, like presenting a false dichotomy. If you think criticism is warranted due to the story taking itself seriously enough, when why isn't commenting on the validity of said criticism warranted?

How do you think the dev would take your criticism, if you can't handle being criticized yourself? Do you think he is taking it in a better stride or what? You literally recommended a rewrite and gave your suggestion, why are we not allowed to hold your take under scrutiny in the same manner as you did the current story?
 

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No matter who the intended audience is, one should expect others to chime in then written in public. But this is more than just opinion being shared. Some of the things you stated were factually wrong, like presenting a false dichotomy. If you think criticism is warranted due to the story taking itself seriously enough, when why isn't commenting on the validity of said criticism warranted?

How do you think the dev would take your criticism, if you can't handle being criticized yourself? Do you think he is taking it in a better stride or what? You literally recommended a rewrite and gave your suggestion, why are we not allowed to hold your take under scrutiny in the same manner as you did the current story?
I agree with you that there is the right kind of criticism and the wrong kind of criticism. With how the conversation was already going, I foresaw myself regurgitating on points against an endless assault of red herrings.

If I were to say, "Most water on Earth is liquid," you or the other guy is going to respond with, "what about ice? Ice is water, but solid!" I would then have to remind you of the fact I said, "most water." Then someone is going to say, "what about comets? Those aren't liquid either!"
Even you can see how much of a waste of time that is.
So I've nipped the discussion in the bud, and opt to agree to disagree.
 
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Since I have both seen you here and on Discord as a thoughtful and well spoken person, I lean to the "on purpose" side. I mostly chose to comment to highlight the hilarity of the sentence for those who might have missed it.
no, they aren't intentional, my english is atrocious, it's not my first language and i suck at learning (and using) languages
and then you need to add and just because life said "fuck you".
(i don't have dyslexia or dyscalculia at least)

If I were to say, "Most water on Earth is liquid," you or the other guy is going to respond with, "what about ice? Ice is water, but solid!" I would then have to remind you of the fact I said, "most water." Then someone is going to say, "what about comets? Those aren't liquid either!"
Even you can see how much of a waste of time that is.
So I've nipped the discussion in the bud, and opt to agree to disagree.
comet aren't part of earth, so take them in consideration will be simply wrong. (talking about unrealted things in a discussion)
the word doing the heavy lift here is "most" most mean a significative majority. so if you speak the true you need to proof that majority. if someone had proof of the opposite is natural call you wrong and prove his point.
because the amount of ice and water on the earth can be estimate they are two numbers, two numbers can be comparate and you can say for sure "a significative majority of the water on the earth is liquid" or not. so in conclusion you are talking about facts and pretend they are not disputable opinions.
proving my point. in the end.
 
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no, they aren't intentional, my english is atrocious, it's not my first language and i suck at learning (and using) languages
and then you need to add and just because life said "fuck you".
(i don't have dyslexia or dyscalculia at least)



comet aren't part of earth, so take them in consideration will be simply wrong. (talking about unrealted things in a discussion)
the word doing the heavy lift here is "most" most mean a significative majority. so if you speak the true you need to proof that majority. if someone had proof of the opposite is natural call you wrong and prove his point.
because the amount of ice and water on the earth can be estimate they are two numbers, two numbers can be comparate and you can say for sure "a significative majority of the water on the earth is liquid" or not. so in conclusion you are talking about facts and pretend they are not disputable opinions.
proving my point. in the end.
In that case, you hide it well. In any case it doesn't make the sentence any less fun, as it dutifully pointed out what you were trying to convey.
 
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Here I was hoping Bill's mom would be next in line for the harem and be added with Billie's quests. Hopefully we can get Carol's mom at some point also.
 
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Here I was hoping Bill's mom would be next in line for the harem and be added with Billie's quests. Hopefully we can get Carol's mom at some point also.
  1. There is a roadmap showing what each update entails and the get an overview with each release. It seriously baffles me how people can miss this. It gets posted quite a lot.
  2. Linda (Bill's mom) won't be added with Billie's quest as she has to be available to those that simply erased Bill's memories. You literally tell her to make sure Bill isn't home, when you come over.
  3. No one is named Carol and currently the only unavailable mothers you have seen, who likely will never be part of the harem, is Sarah's (called Angelina) and Luna's (called Sonia).
 
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  1. There is a roadmap showing what each update entails and the get an overview with each release. It seriously baffles me how people can miss this. It gets posted quite a lot.
  2. Linda (Bill's mom) won't be added with Billie's quest as she has to be available to those that simply erased Bill's memories. You literally tell her to make sure Bill isn't home, when you come over.
  3. No one is named Carol and currently the only unavailable mothers you have seen, who likely will never be part of the harem, is Sarah's (called Angelina) and Luna's (called Sonia).
Is Linda not available on the Billie path. Isn't she next?
 
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