ccxvidonaferens

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Wow.
Reading through the last page-worth of post seems to be an abundance of griping and kink shaming.

Frank isn't perfect. Not exactly a shock, yet is appears to be a major point of contention.
Considering that he's a 40-something who is in a rather nontraditional relationship, that he is attempting to come to terms with, while doing his best to ensure his family is happy, is this really that big of a surprise?

He encouraged his daughter to buy a sex toy for her to enjoy with her girlfriend. So what? I mean it is a harem story, and it's been fairly obvious that there will be relations between the girls. In one of the short extra stories Lil and Becca both have strapons going to town on Abby. While it isn't canon, it may very well be a preview of things to come.
In the vast majority of harem stories I've seen before, one commonality is that the group agrees that the one man is the only man for them. How much they participate with each other varies, though it is almost always a potential component. Since the harem tag has been there from the beginning, I'm not quite sure what people expected.

Doesn't matter to me if Abby is ever part of the harem. They can let her know what's going on, help her accept it, and she can join or not; I really don't care. Which is a little unusual since I'm rather fond of redheads. Far as I'm concerned, she can be in a side relationship with Lil forever, and just accept that the rest of them are with Frank and no other men.
To be blunt, I'd be fine with Frank eventually moving into a place with Becca, Lil, and Mei, letting Abby have her own place, and visiting Beth and Nessa on occasion.

Simply my opinion, not likely to be what happens, and that's perfectly fine. I'm not going to try and change the direction things are going, the relationship dynamics, or the story overall. Just going to go with it, and see where it ends up.

Enjoy the ride, or get off the train. No one forced you to buy a ticket.
I could almost here the microphone hitting the floor as I finished reading this. Well said.
 

ChocoVanilla

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The dad is such a wimp. I don't know if this opinion is popular but what I like the most in this game is the intimate scene between Abby and dad, but it's like we play a Reverse VN.

Usually it the MC role to talk someone into do something with them. For example: the sleep together scene. Usually it's us that has to talk to someone, pick the right choices to persuade someone to sleep in the same bed with us. This game made Abby talk to the dad to get him to sleep with her. What's up with that? Of course I'm going to say yes.

Sometimes you didn't even have a choice. Like when Abby offer to shower with him, the dad was like "NoOooO, we shouldn't". STFU. Where is my choice to say "Yes, let's shower together." I understand if the NPC refuse or not ready but me? I always say yes.
 

Maviarab

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The dad is such a wimp. I don't know if this opinion is popular but what I like the most in this game is the intimate scene between Abby and dad, but it's like we play a Reverse VN.

Usually it the MC role to talk someone into do something with them. For example: the sleep together scene. Usually it's us that has to talk to someone, pick the right choices to persuade someone to sleep in the same bed with us. This game made Abby talk to the dad to get him to sleep with her. What's up with that? Of course I'm going to say yes.

Sometimes you didn't even have a choice. Like when Abby offer to shower with him, the dad was like "NoOooO, we shouldn't". STFU. Where is my choice to say "Yes, let's shower together." I understand if the NPC refuse or not ready but me? I always say yes.
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steelmonkey76

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I haven't played the new update yet and I'm guessing there's still no Abby/MC content yet but I hope it will happen soon which would be awesome. The game is really good because of the story and characters as well as the graphics (the women are cuties) as far as I'm concerned. I like how you've shown the emotional side like family, love, guilt, sorrow and how it can effect the characters so I look forward to more it but I must say I do fast forward a lot of the meandering internal thoughts you have written for the MC, there's just so much it becomes long winded and that detracts from the overall enjoyment I get from the storyline, so for me the skip function is a must do.
 

jsmith555

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I understand the frustration of it being dragged out, I'm in the same boat, but I still enjoy the game. I'm just kinda ready for this one to conclude and a new one to start. Years of waiting for Abby has just become kinda boring now. I'm still going to play and enjoy it, but so much of this feels like bloat to me. Still, I love the quality of the characters and animations, and will always be interested to see what comes next.
 

Joshy92

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Man I want to see at least two of these beauties kissing and other sexy things. I would watch real porn but it sucks compared to this.
 
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Maviarab

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I haven't played the new update yet and I'm guessing there's still no Abby/MC content yet but I hope it will happen soon which would be awesome. The game is really good because of the story and characters as well as the graphics (the women are cuties) as far as I'm concerned. I like how you've shown the emotional side like family, love, guilt, sorrow and how it can effect the characters so I look forward to more it but I must say I do fast forward a lot of the meandering internal thoughts you have written for the MC, there's just so much it becomes long winded and that detracts from the overall enjoyment I get from the storyline, so for me the skip function is a must do.
I understand the frustration of it being dragged out, I'm in the same boat, but I still enjoy the game. I'm just kinda ready for this one to conclude and a new one to start. Years of waiting for Abby has just become kinda boring now. I'm still going to play and enjoy it, but so much of this feels like bloat to me. Still, I love the quality of the characters and animations, and will always be interested to see what comes next.
There's more than a few of us couldn't care less about Abby so we aren't 'waiting' for anything....
 

MrLKX

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I'll post my impressions when I've finished the update. I only recently finished the last update and found the content rather irrelevant, apart from Mei moving into the apartment that will be Lilly and Becca's home for the coming year.

Which is probably still relevant: I'm more convinced than ever that Abby is going to catch Lilly and Frank. Lilly is as subtle as a sledgehammer hitting a massive gong.

What I find interesting is that Lilly vetoes Becca's friend that she (Becca) wants to hook up with Frank but not her former coworker. But well, it could just be that she either doesn't want to think about it or it's just a no-brainer that everyone involved understands without it having to be brought up.


Other than that, I think CNG shouldn't go overboard with the LIs and one-off stories. I think ladies like the judge's daughter or the woman Frank meets at the gym with her brother would be more fitting for a spin-off set in the same universe/house. That wouldn't take too much focus away from the primary ladies and would have the advantage of already having characters for another story.
 

Maviarab

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'realistic' MC when you fuck 90% of everything that moves. and all the girls are so wet after MC because he is the only man in that universe.
It is still ultimately an adult porn game involving your daughters (adopted or otherwise is irrelevent). The premise of the story is as ridiculous as any other porn story/scene/movie.

Now if you'd like to actually discuss my point, go ahead ;)
 
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MrLKX

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Also, to add:

As for all the idiots wining about Frank, he's actually possibly the most realistic MC of any VN I've played (600+) when you're not projecting that you're some alpha male who can bed anyone without consequence because your a testosterone-filled Greek God.
Vote to name this types of MC the "Zeus" type.

'realistic' MC when you fuck 90% of everything that moves. and all the girls are so wet after MC because he is the only man in that universe.
Why do I have the VN about a basketball prodigy in my head when I read this?
 
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lorkdubo

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Also, to add:

As for all the idiots wining about Frank, he's actually possibly the most realistic MC of any VN I've played (600+) when you're not projecting that you're some alpha male who can bed anyone without consequence because your a testosterone-filled Greek God.
No. And there are more problems with the behavior. This is a player driven VN, not a book. Now, with this said, a bigger problem that is quite frequent in VN, and even more so if they are of amateur nature, is the conflict of the player base with the decision of the MC. We can agree that this is primarily harem incest, fairly vanilla with a male driven MC, right? Then a lot of the thoughts and decisions that are forced into the MC clash in conflict with how the player base wants to play these types of games or how the MC should react.
The way he reacts is not a big problem if he does it once, but he has reacted this way gazillions of times and is so whinny it hurts. Other than the MC, i really like the game. But i would definitely not agree that he is realistic, and even more important, realistic equals good.
 

Demiurg

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It is still ultimately an adult porn game involving your daughters (adopted or otherwise is irrelevent). The premise of the story is as ridiculous as any other porn story/scene/movie.

Now if you'd like to actually discuss my point, go ahead ;)
That's the point. It's hard to make it realistic, but you can make it more enjoyable. But in the end the developer makes the game as he wishes.
 
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Maviarab

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This is a player driven VN, not a book
It isn't really though is it? It's on the cusp of being a kinetic novel in reality. People/you can either accept that...or move on as it isn't your thing.
That's the point.
No it isn't. Look, I'll say it straight, even if gets me a thread ban. If all the fucking alpha male (lol) whining idiots in this thread think they would react the opposite of Frank (if presented with all the same options) and fuck their girls without thought, they are either:

a) fucking deluded or
b) liars, or
c) not even old enough to vote.
 

Adhdclassic

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Like this game it is unique. instead of an old pervert a guy wanted to steal somebody’s wife wants to get a harem and shit. It’s the daughter who is manipulating and corrupting the father and other people. Don’t think I’ve ever seen it in any other AVN.
 

Katzoe

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There's more than a few of us couldn't care less about Abby so we aren't 'waiting' for anything....
Well, I for my part really hope Abby will be part of the harem and I think the story already goes in that direction. (Except for what Lily wants but I think Abby will take care of her)

Still, I don't want to rush the author or anything, the game is kinda slow-burn and I think it's fine that way.
IMO this is easily one of the best active VNs on here atm.
 
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